ponsaelius Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 The commentator during the Mainz game called Botman 'lean as a cat'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Swear I've read this very same story about him every summer for the last few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 (edited) Under Howe he's been as motivated as ever and has played his most consistent football at NUFC without being sparkling iyam. He never was like but I still think he'll have parts to play this season. If he can hit the form of the latter part of 17-18 with the consistency of last season I'm sure he will but from this coming season moving forward, especially next season, he should be a rotational cup player at best if not moved on. Edited July 23, 2022 by HaydnNUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Some players are naturally fit and don't seem to need much work to maintain it. Shelvey is a naturally stocky lad, who I imagine puts on weight very quickly. He's also not very quick, which exasperated the situation. Look he should have taken the bull by the horns years ago and learned that in order to keep up with others he needed to have his own fitness plan. It doesn't help when the likes of Bruce are knocking about, mind. Shelvey was actually excellent for the last 6 months, there's no hiding place now. If his performance or fitness drops, he's out. The one thing you can't accuse him of is lacking character. He's been challenged and he's up for the fight. Fair play to him. In 12 months time he will probably be 6th choice for us but he can still contribute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 I wouldn't call him stocky build,like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 The issue with Shelvey is that he isn’t an athlete, he lacks athleticism, pace and stamina so in order to make up for that you have to be super fit and conditioned, Milner is a prime example. Good on him going the extra yards, had he had that attitude from the off he might have made more of a career than he has for himself. If we are starting with him next season, I’d be worried and I’d rather we kind of got rid of him and a few others for more technical players with better athleticism and manoeuvrability. To his credit though, he’s been quite consistent under Howe, delivering a 6/7 type performance in most games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Obviously wants his contract extension on 80k a week rather than us fucking him off to go to a championship club and be on a quarter of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Just now, Beth said: Obviously wants his contract extension on 80k a week rather than us fucking him off to go to a championship club and be on a quarter of that. Well obviously he would want that anyone would ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 1 hour ago, The Butcher said: Swear I've read this very same story about him every summer for the last few years. Was it last pre season where he was doing interviews saying that he had just learned that alcohol is bad for athletes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 On 23/07/2022 at 17:44, HaydnNUFC said: Under Howe he's been as motivated as ever and has played his most consistent football at NUFC without being sparkling iyam. He never was like but I still think he'll have parts to play this season. If he can hit the form of the latter part of 17-18 with the consistency of last season I'm sure he will but from this coming season moving forward, especially next season, he should be a rotational cup player at best if not moved on. He will start most games than not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeepShow4life Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 He was definitely better than usual the last six months but I wouldn't say he was amazing. Also this highlights how he has never really given 100% for the majority of his time here despite being one of the highest earners. I don't think he should just be given a free pass for this. Think we would look far better with Bruno in that role and either Willock or preferably Pacqueta further forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shush Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Shelvey trimming to best shape and fitness ever is an excellent sign. I really despised him until he's played under Howe. He appears to be making huge efforts to the best he can be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 The day I'll call him a good player will be the day he plays a short pass then runs into space to collect the return pass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 One year he gets a personal chef, another he goes to anger management, then he learns it's not good to drink after workouts and now he's got a PT in Turkey during the summer. In 10 years he'll be one hell of a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Honestly I can't wait to get rid of him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 It's not his fault he's not quite good enough, he's cut out the hands on knees watching the game go by and he's clearly making an effort. He should have been replaced a few seasons ago and he will be replaced soon. I'll be happy to see the back of him but purely from a sporting perspective. Not the sharpest tack in the tin but under the right leadership he always gives it his best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 I’m one of the weirdos that thinks he’s a really good option to have in the #6 role. He’ll be needed if Bruno picks up an injury or has to be pushed forward again due to lack of availability of our other CMs. For a 2nd option at DLP he is perfect for us right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Desperate for those 3 appearances and then he can relax back in to his comfort zone. Fair play if not, but I can see it from a mile off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Think we'd probably offer him an extra year regardless. I think he'll play a lot more this season than people seem to think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Jaqen said: Think we'd probably offer him an extra year regardless. I think he'll play a lot more this season than people seem to think. Agree, he's one of those players who seem to have locked in for life here, I think Jacob Murphy's another one who scored for a 6 year contract or something like that. Tbf, Shelvey's not a bad player, I can definitely see him being used quite a lot for the next season or so before we upgrade across all areas of the pitch. He's a decent squad player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 5 hours ago, Dokko said: Desperate for those 3 appearances and then he can relax back in to his comfort zone. Fair play if not, but I can see it from a mile off. He would get those 3 appearances no matter how fit he was returning from the summer break. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 He's making an effort at least. Whether it's good enough or not I'll respect him for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 joelinton, krafth, schar.........shelvey??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomlynnherrington Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 13 hours ago, TRon said: Agree, he's one of those players who seem to have locked in for life here, I think Jacob Murphy's another one who scored for a 6 year contract or something like that. Tbf, Shelvey's not a bad player, I can definitely see him being used quite a lot for the next season or so before we upgrade across all areas of the pitch. He's a decent squad player. He can move the ball on quickly,and forward.I’d keep him for another year and see how we do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Quote Howe confirmed Shelvey’s issue after the game at the Estadio da Luz “Jonjo, it looks like a hamstring problem,” the 45-year-old said. “I don’t know any more than that at the moment. Really disappointing, he’s worked so hard to keep himself fit and be in a good place physically. Any injury would be a blow to him and for us, so fingers crossed it’s not bad. Looks like it was a hamstring injury rather than a knee, so good news in that respect, hopefully the hamstring injury isn't severe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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