AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 It was only years of Ashley added to Pardew that really made it really unbearable. Under a normal owner we would have hated Pardew for a while, he would've got sacked, we would've moved on. It was the institutional lack of effort that killed us off as fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 If the Palace owners weren't also monumental bellends he'd still be here, under absolutely no pressure at all regardless of where we were in the pyramid/league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 It was only years of Ashley added to Pardew that really made it really unbearable. Under a normal owner we would have hated Pardew for a while, he would've got sacked, we would've moved on. It was the institutional lack of effort that killed us off as fans. pardew was the enabler imo, it was a systematic effort to wear down the fanbase and it worked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Exactly, he wasn't just a shit manager we had to persevere with for a fleeting moment in our history, he changed people's perception of the game and ruined a deep grained love for our club as a whole. That doesn't come back over night, Rafa is not just rebuilding our club he's fixing a broken relationship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 It was only years of Ashley added to Pardew that really made it really unbearable. Under a normal owner we would have hated Pardew for a while, he would've got sacked, we would've moved on. It was the institutional lack of effort that killed us off as fans. pardew was the enabler imo, it was a systematic effort to wear down the fanbase and it worked Yeah of course he played his part, but Pardew under a normal ownership regime is a crap manager who gets sacked fairly quickly. It's the combination of the two that killed NUFC fans. This isn't to defend Pardew BTW, just to say what really killed the hopes and dreams of our fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 It was only years of Ashley added to Pardew that really made it really unbearable. Under a normal owner we would have hated Pardew for a while, he would've got sacked, we would've moved on. It was the institutional lack of effort that killed us off as fans. pardew was the enabler imo, it was a systematic effort to wear down the fanbase and it worked And all for his own benefit. He's scum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 We ended up just wanting a decent 20 minutes by the end How the worm has turned at Palace. We (wey, some of us) ended up wanting us to get a hiding every single week, in the season before he left. Wanting your side to lose badly seems to be a unique trait that Pardew brings to football clubs. I was just thinking back to my mate telling me with a happy look on his face "we were decent for 20 mins" . My reply was "is that it like, 20 mins is now acceptable" But yes, the man has a history of destroying the soul of a football fan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 It was only years of Ashley added to Pardew that really made it really unbearable. Under a normal owner we would have hated Pardew for a while, he would've got sacked, we would've moved on. It was the institutional lack of effort that killed us off as fans. pardew was the enabler imo, it was a systematic effort to wear down the fanbase and it worked Yeah of course he played his part, but Pardew under a normal ownership regime is a crap manager who gets sacked fairly quickly. It's the combination of the two that killed NUFC fans. This isn't to defend Pardew BTW, just to say what really killed the hopes and dreams of our fans. you're right of course, i'm not sure any other manager in the game would have been willing and able to do it either tbh he was/is unique in that he seems immune from analysis and criticism with regards to the things that he says...had any other manager in the game tried to come up with some of the shit he did (peddling players for sale then complaining publicly when he didn't have players, for example) that manager would have been outed as a bullshitter or a lunatic ashley and pards really were the perfect combination of cunts to kill hope in retrospect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 I don't think the factual accuracy of anything managers say is really analysed by pundits, they accept almost anything. Pardew just highlights this fact because he talks unusual levels of nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 I don't think the factual accuracy of anything managers say is really analysed by pundits, they accept almost anything. Pardew just highlights this fact because he talks unusual levels of nonsense. he took it to a new level with his underhand support of the owner's policies by touting his players for sale every five minutes then whining about it when he lost us another game, coupled of course with the consistent message of not being able to compete and so on no other manager in the game would have entertained the first part Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 He's testament to how far brazen, well-delivered bullshit gets you in life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 I don't think the factual accuracy of anything managers say is really analysed by pundits, they accept almost anything. Pardew just highlights this fact because he talks unusual levels of nonsense. he took it to a new level with his underhand support of the owner's policies by touting his players for sale every five minutes then whining about it when he lost us another game, coupled of course with the consistent message of not being able to compete and so on no other manager in the game would have entertained the first part Agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 https://twitter.com/uniladfooty/status/795628123312168960 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Looks familiar that, can't quite put my finger on why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 How many years is that now then that He's been at the bottom of the yearly form table? Has to be at least 2, possibly 3? In the last 5 year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Imagine if the top 8 of the league was actually like that after 30 games one season. Wow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Impressive that Sunderland have the worst start ever by a Premier League team to a season and yet Palace are still 10 points behind them in 2016 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 It's almost as if he's gone to Palace and got an initial positive, temporary reaction from the squad. He's since been allowed to spend a load of cash, alienate popular players which has led to their sale, started playing listless, disorganised and clueless football. He's resorted to blaming random factors, distancing himself from the poor run and their form is now the worst in the league over a prolonged period. I for one am truly shocked by what's happened down there. Never could have predicted it would have panned out like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Impressive that Sunderland have the worst start ever by a Premier League team to a season and yet Palace are still 10 points behind them in 2016 Palace are only 2 points ahead of us in 2016. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 It's almost as if he's gone to Palace and got an initial positive, temporary reaction from the squad. He's since been allowed to spend a load of cash, alienate popular players which has led to their sale, started playing listless, disorganised and clueless football. He's resorted to blaming random factors, distancing himself from the poor run and their form is now the worst in the league over a prolonged period. I for one am truly shocked by what's happened down there. Never could have predicted it would have panned out like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 https://twitter.com/uniladfooty/status/795628123312168960 17. C.Palace........30......5......7.....18......22 pts 18. Newcastle......19......5......5......9.......20 pts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 But...but...but...but..5th place Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Deluded jawdeez Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 They got in a cup final last season, what more do they expect, I think he's doing a cracking job, deluded Palace supporters, careful what you wish for, who would replace him?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Wonder if they'd swap him for the Carver and Stone Management Masterclass? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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