joeyt Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 You just know if he gets sacked and if we get promoted he's going to be reeled out by Sky to be a pundit on every televised match we play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 If he didn't get that 2-3 win at Sunderland he would have been right in the clarts! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 You just know if he gets sacked and if we get promoted he's going to be reeled out by Sky to be a pundit on every televised match we play He should be getting a top job, if the pundits are to be believed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Doesn't deserve the top job in poundland let alone England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 If he didn't get that 2-3 win at Sunderland he would have been right in the clarts! If Sunderland had won they would be below them in the table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Swansea will go two up, Pards lot will fortuitously get it to 2-2 and that'll keep him in a job IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 http://www.espn.co.uk/football/club/crystal-palace/384/blog/post/3000880/alan-pardew-must-look-closer-to-home-after-shifting-the-blame-at-palace Alan Pardew must look closer to home after shifting the blame at Palace Nick Miller It's become a minor running joke among some Crystal Palace fans that, after a game in which they concede a goal from a set piece, boss Alan Pardew will proclaim in some bafflement that such a thing is "not us." He did it in September, after three of the five goals they had let in to that point had been from set pieces. He did it after the 4-2 defeat to Liverpool, in which they allowed two from corners. And he did it again this weekend, after Yaya Toure was left unmarked on the edge of the six-yard box from a corner and sealed a 2-1 win for Manchester City. This is not necessarily unusual. Managers often misdirect, obfuscate, mislead or sometimes downright lie when talking to the press, and frequently with good reason -- why would you admit and expose a weakness to 19 other competitors? But Palace have conceded nine goals from dead ball situations this season (nearly half their total), and a whopping 30 chances. Both are the most in the Premier League. Pardew at least recognised the problem and stated his intention to fix it, but at what point does hiding your hand become delusion? Pardew's apparent certainty that Palace are not a team who concedes from set pieces, despite doing so quite often, fits in with a more general theme of excuses. He has been around for a while, so he knows what he's doing when making public statements. Pardew has mastered the art of ostensibly "fronting up" and admitting mistakes, while at the same time making it clear that his team's problems might well be someone's fault, but certainly not his. Sometimes it's quite subtle. On Saturday, for example, he praised the collective but criticised the individual, noting Palace had "dealt with [City] quite well tactically," but that they "gifted" the second, winning goal. Translation: I did my job, but someone else messed up. He blamed "one player" for not passing on a message about their adjusted duties at corners when coming on as substitute. By process of elimination, that player was Lee Chung-Yong, brought on two minutes before City's winner. "That's unacceptable to me," Pardew solemnly intoned, as if making sure everyone knows what they're supposed to be doing from corners isn't the manager's responsibility. "We'll have to make sure they wear a t-shirt with the message on it next time." Something like that is an easy distraction, and would be easier to believe if conceding like that was an isolated incident. But in truth it was Pardew deflecting blame away from himself, choosing to point at a player making a single error (over which the manager can have little control) rather than a collective failure (which the manager is supposed to totally control) for adverse results. Perhaps this is part of Pardew's famously bullet-proof self-regard, but it's also disingenuous. "It's not like teams are running away from us," he said on Saturday. "If you look at the five games, the distance and the margins between how we've played and the fact that we've lost all five, is a little bit unusual. I'm hoping in the next five games we get our little slice of luck, get the breaks, get the first goal and suddenly start getting some more points." Again, Pardew was trying to point towards factors beyond his control -- luck, fate, the gods, whatever -- but Pep Guardiola's side didn't have to play very well to win, and only really looked in trouble for the 10 minutes or so around Palace's goal. Pardew's tactical adjustment at half time saw Andros Townsend replaced by Connor Wickham, a move that initially worked and Wickham scored, but almost immediately the forward was pushed back out to the wing. Momentum was lost and beyond a couple of late chances, City controlled the game from that point, more or less in third gear. There was another example of his blame-shifting here, too. "I felt at centre-half they were struggling a little bit today, so he'd give us a bit more power and presence through the middle," Pardew said, when asked about the Wickham substitution. But then, seconds after declaring that he'd spotted and exploited a weakness, the words still hanging in the air like in a cartoon speech bubble, he said: "I thought Man City's best players were their defenders." Again, the things that went right -- Wickham taking advantage of defensive "struggles" thanks to his brilliant tactical switch -- were Pardew's doing. But the things that went wrong -- those same defenders suddenly becoming excellent and impenetrable -- were beyond his control. The defeat wasn't entirely down to Pardew, and there is no disgrace in losing to a team as outrageously talented as City. But the bare facts are ugly: in 2016, Palace have recorded five league wins. On New Year's Day they were fifth, but ended last season in 15th, five points clear of relegation. This season they are 16th, a single point clear of the bottom three. In the calendar year, they have gained 22 points from 31 games. That's the worst record in the top four English divisions. Spread over a full season, that would leave them with 27 points. No team has ever finished higher than second-bottom with that total in a 38-game Premier League season. Calendar year statistics might be only loosely relevant, but the next three games see Palace visit Swansea and Hull, and a home game against Southampton. If they don't get points from those encounters, they will find themselves in the relegation zone and Pardew will have nobody to blame but himself. You wonder whose fault he will think it is, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Sometimes it's quite subtle. On Saturday, for example, he praised the collective but criticised the individual, noting Palace had "dealt with [City] quite well tactically," but that they "gifted" the second, winning goal. Translation: I did my job, but someone else messed up. He blamed "one player" for not passing on a message about their adjusted duties at corners when coming on as substitute. By process of elimination, that player was Lee Chung-Yong, brought on two minutes before City's winner. "That's unacceptable to me," Pardew solemnly intoned, as if making sure everyone knows what they're supposed to be doing from corners isn't the manager's responsibility. "We'll have to make sure they wear a t-shirt with the message on it next time." Fucking hell man, it was stuff like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Amazing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 It's beautiful the fact that he has managed to gradually undo all of Pulis' coaching and make them both susceptible and impotent from set pieces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 It's beautiful the fact that he has managed to gradually undo all of Pulis' coaching and make them both susceptible and impotent from set pieces. Especially as the fraud was living off that for quite some time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 It's beautiful the fact that he has managed to gradually undo all of Pulis' coaching and make them both susceptible and impotent from set pieces. Especially as the fraud was living off that for quite some time. Was thinking that myself the other day. Similar to how Martinez could survive on the solid defence that Moyes built for a while, but it only worked for so long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Replacing Townsend for Wickham then pushing him onto the wing... It's stuff like that which makes me thankful we no longer have to watch that sort of drivel and read those host of excuses. I take very little pleasure in it. I don't think I'll be happy until he's universally recognised as the awful manger he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Wickham on the wing man That might even be worse than putting Cisse out there he is the worst Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Replacing Townsend for Wickham then pushing him onto the wing... It's stuff like that which makes me thankful we no longer have to watch that sort of drivel and read those host of excuses. I take very little pleasure in it. I don't think I'll be happy until he's universally recognised as the awful manger he is. Why? It's brilliant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I still don't think they've suffered enough. Like to see a CP have fortunate run, the owner's faith in Pardew restored, and relegation on the last day of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I think he knows it's just about game over at Palace and is already starting the narrative to protect his reputation. He's claiming they're not in trouble, it's "not us" etc so when he gets the bullet it'll be perceived by some as an early and harsh sacking. He knows people buy his bullshit and if he says it often enough then idiots just accept it as fact. The slimy fucking shithouse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Didn't we go like 200 corners without scoring whilst at the same time conceding from them most weeks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 The bollocks about us saying we'd threatened his family got me. What horseshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I'm gonna tweet this article to Ian Wright, one of his media hooplicker buddies, in anger, and feel proud of myself for days after. Fucking cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Didn't we go like 200 corners without scoring whilst at the same time conceding from them most weeks 386 corners to be exact-ish. 785 days fwiw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I'm gonna tweet this article to Ian Wright, one of his media hooplicker buddies, in anger, and feel proud of myself for days after. f***ing c***s. Me 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 It's astonishing how many "records" he managed to break while he was cunting around at our club the slimey fucker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Sometimes it's quite subtle. On Saturday, for example, he praised the collective but criticised the individual, noting Palace had "dealt with [City] quite well tactically," but that they "gifted" the second, winning goal. Translation: I did my job, but someone else messed up. He blamed "one player" for not passing on a message about their adjusted duties at corners when coming on as substitute. By process of elimination, that player was Lee Chung-Yong, brought on two minutes before City's winner. "That's unacceptable to me," Pardew solemnly intoned, as if making sure everyone knows what they're supposed to be doing from corners isn't the manager's responsibility. "We'll have to make sure they wear a t-shirt with the message on it next time." Fucking hell man, it was stuff like that. Chungy fucking hates the cunt n all, marvellous work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 "Palace fans hate him because he's a cockney" - Pete on the Ramble Loved that. Was disappointed the others didn't really appreciate it. Don't know if it's NUFC bias but he's easily my favourite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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