Yorkie Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 as things stand. So just the league then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianovthetoon Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 If the season ended today they’d be playing Accrington Stanley next season as things stand ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Who are they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 If the season ended today they’d be playing Accrington Stanley next season as things stand ??? Just like when they won their first few league titles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Sheff Wed are definitely bigger than the mackems. As are Derby/Forest, West Ham too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pons Alias Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Seen the Brexit forecasts - I’m now Hearing that Renault/Nissan want out. They’re going to be fucked in every way possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Seen the Brexit forecasts - I’m now Hearing that Renault/Nissan want out. They’re going to be fucked in every way possible. Not just the mackems there though is it? Could be the whole of the North East. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Seen the Brexit forecasts - I’m now Hearing that Renault/Nissan want out. They’re going to be fucked in every way possible. Not just the mackems there though is it? Could be the whole of the North East. Yup. There's an absolute boat load of smaller businesses that will disappear apparently. It'll be devastating Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Not good news, although I imagine a good number from their voted out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 There’s some selective opinions going on here. Sunderland, IMO, are bigger than most of the clubs mentioned in the last few posts. Villa are bigger but there again on most things Villa are also bigger than us. In terms of history, stadium and crowds, Sunderland are a big club; their League Titles are only bettered by a few (albeit most of these were at a time when the League was in its infancy). Whether we like it or not they have more titles than us, won the league and the FA Cup more recently than us as well. There are reasons for the more titles and I don’t believe they are bigger than us but you could put up a reasonable argument otherwise. Their biggest problem is that they are located in the north east and have a rather unpleasant city. There’s no doubting that despite being a big club they are a club that no top quality player would want to play for. Worryingly, we have similar problems in that respect. Thanks Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Sunderland may crack the top 30 of biggest clubs. Couldn't promise more than that though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Not good news, although I imagine a good number from their voted out! 61% of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pons Alias Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Sunderland smell of poo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Seen the Brexit forecasts - I’m now Hearing that Renault/Nissan want out. They’re going to be f***ed in every way possible. Not just the mackems there though is it? Could be the whole of the North East. It would affect the north east massively. It isn’t just Nissan, it is all the suppliers in the region which they rely on. I would be very surprised if they moved elsewhere though, considering the amount of investment they have put into the new Battery plant etc. Either way I am glad I got away from the automotive sector, just in case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Who are they? Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Seen the Brexit forecasts - I’m now Hearing that Renault/Nissan want out. They’re going to be f***ed in every way possible. Not just the mackems there though is it? Could be the whole of the North East. It would affect the north east massively. It isn’t just Nissan, it is all the suppliers in the region which they rely on. I would be very surprised if they moved elsewhere though, considering the amount of investment they have put into the new Battery plant etc. Either way I am glad I got away from the automotive sector, just in case. We've sold the battery plant. Theres another meeting today with the pm with other Japanese firms, that's all. People making shit up as usual, no one knows how brexit will play out and no one knows what will happen to any business after. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Seen the Brexit forecasts - I’m now Hearing that Renault/Nissan want out. They’re going to be fucked in every way possible. Since the Brexit vote happened they have been eyeing up a site in Ireland. They managed to make a deal with our government to pay a reduction in corporate taxes, as well as getting a subsidiary to make a certain model of car. Those deals will last for about 5 years, if they don't get similar deals for future generations of cars then they will be off. It is suspected that they are half way down the process of tying up a deal with the Irish government to move their Sunderland plant to Ireland. If Nissan leave the North East then due to the amount of direct and indirect skilled labour jobs they have here, and the sudden end of operations it will bring, then I'd say it would be more devastating for the region then when the coal mines were closed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Surely relocating would be mega expensive? I think it’s all politics to get better tax cuts and subsidising. The NE cannot afford to lose Nissan. My nephew has just got an apprenticeship there and loves it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 You cant just up sticks and move the most productive car plant in Europe to another location it would impact on them massive, potentially damaging production levels. I play hockey with lads who work at Nissan and they insist that they are going nowhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 It just sounds counter productive. Li,e you say is a successful plant and a move would jepodise that. Also I imagine the number of Nissan car sales in England would go down massively if they were to move. It seems the brand is one of the most popular in the NE. We even have one and would happily have another Nissan, great cars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 It just sounds counter productive. Li,e you say is a successful plant and a move would jepodise that. Also I imagine the number of Nissan car sales in England would go down massively if they were to move. It seems the brand is one of the most popular in the NE. We even have one and would happily have another Nissan, great cars. Form what the lads tell me there is constant investment in the location and site. Id image this Ireland location would be a loop hole they could potentially use to get around any possible tariffs if we don't get an agreement with the EU. They would be mental to completely relocate that factory, it would be suicide for a decade or more until all the new workers are at the same level of skills and experience as the current workers, let alone setting up the production lines from scratch and making sure all the robots and machinery are operating at 100%. The best way for the car companies to continue as is, is for the UK and EU to come to an agreement on trade and movement of goods. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Open_C Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Who are they? Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 It just sounds counter productive. Li,e you say is a successful plant and a move would jepodise that. Also I imagine the number of Nissan car sales in England would go down massively if they were to move. It seems the brand is one of the most popular in the NE. We even have one and would happily have another Nissan, great cars. Form what the lads tell me there is constant investment in the location and site. Id image this Ireland location would be a loop hole they could potentially use to get around any possible tariffs if we don't get an agreement with the EU. They would be mental to completely relocate that factory, it would be suicide for a decade or more until all the new workers are at the same level of skills and experience as the current workers, let alone setting up the production lines from scratch and making sure all the robots and machinery are operating at 100%. The best way for the car companies to continue as is, is for the UK and EU to come to an agreement on trade and movement of goods. 1st step would be downsize. Easily done, lots of contractors, then core staff producing cars just for UK. What may end up happening is all Nissan cars for UK built here... Would take some planning but the factory would be as busy as ever and no export tariffs. Reckon the government would stump up grants to make that happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 It just sounds counter productive. Li,e you say is a successful plant and a move would jepodise that. Also I imagine the number of Nissan car sales in England would go down massively if they were to move. It seems the brand is one of the most popular in the NE. We even have one and would happily have another Nissan, great cars. Form what the lads tell me there is constant investment in the location and site. Id image this Ireland location would be a loop hole they could potentially use to get around any possible tariffs if we don't get an agreement with the EU. They would be mental to completely relocate that factory, it would be suicide for a decade or more until all the new workers are at the same level of skills and experience as the current workers, let alone setting up the production lines from scratch and making sure all the robots and machinery are operating at 100%. The best way for the car companies to continue as is, is for the UK and EU to come to an agreement on trade and movement of goods. 1st step would be downsize. Easily done, lots of contractors, then core staff producing cars just for UK. What may end up happening is all Nissan cars for UK built here... Would take some planning but the factory would be as busy as ever and no export tariffs. Reckon the government would stump up grants to make that happen. I suppose there is only one way to find out and that's wait and see how things pan out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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