mrmojorisin75 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 That he reportedly has a strong relationship with Charnley is only a good thing for leverage. genuinely amused by the thought of how one-sided that "relationship" must be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 For the last month or so, ICNewcastle has been uploading videos of each pre-match press conference within an hour or two of them happening. For some reason this one hasn't been uploaded. .com's write up is much more complete about what he said. I'm positive about it, like. How did talks on Thursday with Lee Charnley go? "Fine. We have a good relationship and he's professional and I am professional.... and we were analysing things that were wrong and things that we could do in a different way....so quite positive. Have you come to a decision about your future? "No, not really. What we said in this meeting is we will have more meetings. So, again it was very positive in terms of the things that we were discussing. "I can say to the fans that we will continue so obviously if I decide to come here it’s because I knew that was a massive club with massive support from the fans. "That was my impression when I came and I'm really flattered with the fans because it has been amazing. "I know they can be even more positive in the future but at the moment we have to be sure that we prepare the game for tomorrow properly and after we will try to do the best for everyone: for me, for the club, for the fans, for everyone here. Is this a big decision for you? "Obviously. I am professional and I have been in this business for a while no? I am the kind of manager that has achieved what I have achieved working very hard. I was not a famous star as a player so I needed to work very hard. "I have experienced two promotions with different clubs in Spain and I have experienced being relegated too....so I can understand that there are some people who say 'no he cannot stay', some people say 'he will do it'. "That is a situation where we have to be calm, we have to be sure. What I want is the same as the fans want. We want a successful team, we want a strong team to be promoted to the Premier League again as soon as possible and that is the situation now. "We have to talk, we will have more meetings and then we will see what happens. But if I am here and I am discussing these things, because obviously in my head it's a chance, it's a good chance and we have to keep talking. What sort of assurances would you be looking for? "I say before, it's like the fans - a strong team capable of being promoted quickly and to compete at the maximum level. "It's not a question of money, it's a question of if we have a structure that can allow the club in the next year and in the future years to be strong and competing in the Premier League hopefully. "I am happy to discuss all these things.....at the moment I am really pleased with the first conversation. I am really pleased with the people here - so the staff, players, directors - everyone here since I came has been fantastic. "I cannot say other things, than I want to be sure that if everything is fine. It has to be fine for me, but also for the club, for the fans, for everyone. When do you expect to come to a decision: "It's difficult to say, it depends on the conversation but I think that a couple of weeks could be a decent time. "In the meantime obviously we have a responsibility and we have been even working preparing the pre season and leaving everything ready for the next year. "So we cannot say yes and then not have time to move things in a professional way. So we are working as professionals and we are talking and I think that a couple of weeks maximum and we will have an idea." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 It reads very well, that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Mmmm...just give him what he wants you daft cunts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Mmmm...just give him what he wants you daft cunts this- shouldn't even need more meetings they should be handing it to him on a plate- if theres more to discuss the fucking idiots are making more complicated than it should be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 What's the chances that Rafa has today just towed the Company line at Ashley's request, to keep fans on side ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 What's the chances that Rafa has today just towed the Company line at Ashley's request, to keep fans on side ? just to maintain hope til the season is over? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Mmmm...just give him what he wants you daft cunts this- shouldn't even need more meetings they should be handing it to him on a plate- if theres more to discuss the fucking idiots are making more complicated than it should be. the only area for discussion for me should be transfer budget and wage bill, i'm sure rafa has said what he wants but these two areas are the only places where i feel the club would be justified in discussing because that's the one area where you can't just let a manager do what he wants Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 What's the chances that Rafa has today just towed the Company line at Ashley's request, to keep fans on side ? I don't think he(Rafa) would do that so none. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Don't think the full transcript reads as well as the thread title like. I'm not sure I even read the bit where he said that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 What's the chances that Rafa has today just towed the Company line at Ashley's request, to keep fans on side ? just to maintain hope til the season is over? Yeah What's the chances that Rafa has today just towed the Company line at Ashley's request, to keep fans on side ? I don't think he(Rafa) would do that so none. I want to believe that too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Don't think the full transcript reads as well as the thread title like. I'm not sure I even read the bit where he said that. "We have to talk, we will have more meetings and then we will see what happens. But if I am here and I am discussing these things, because obviously in my head it's a chance, it's a good chance and we have to keep talking." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 I want to believe that too. He's probably the only person that I would believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Make no mistake, it may well swing in our favour but it's not going be a case of just both parties pulling in the same direction. This bunch will always push for some upper hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 I want to believe that too. He's probably the only person that I would believe. Agreed also. I believe that if there is any chance that he's only said these positive things just to get through the press conference and then the match tomorrow, we'll find out tomorrow night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 For the last month or so, ICNewcastle has been uploading videos of each pre-match press conference within an hour or two of them happening. For some reason this one hasn't been uploaded. .com's write up is much more complete about what he said. I'm positive about it, like. How did talks on Thursday with Lee Charnley go? "Fine. We have a good relationship and he's professional and I am professional.... and we were analysing things that were wrong and things that we could do in a different way....so quite positive. Have you come to a decision about your future? "No, not really. What we said in this meeting is we will have more meetings. So, again it was very positive in terms of the things that we were discussing. "I can say to the fans that we will continue so obviously if I decide to come here it’s because I knew that was a massive club with massive support from the fans. "That was my impression when I came and I'm really flattered with the fans because it has been amazing. "I know they can be even more positive in the future but at the moment we have to be sure that we prepare the game for tomorrow properly and after we will try to do the best for everyone: for me, for the club, for the fans, for everyone here. Is this a big decision for you? "Obviously. I am professional and I have been in this business for a while no? I am the kind of manager that has achieved what I have achieved working very hard. I was not a famous star as a player so I needed to work very hard. "I have experienced two promotions with different clubs in Spain and I have experienced being relegated too....so I can understand that there are some people who say 'no he cannot stay', some people say 'he will do it'. "That is a situation where we have to be calm, we have to be sure. What I want is the same as the fans want. We want a successful team, we want a strong team to be promoted to the Premier League again as soon as possible and that is the situation now. "We have to talk, we will have more meetings and then we will see what happens. But if I am here and I am discussing these things, because obviously in my head it's a chance, it's a good chance and we have to keep talking. What sort of assurances would you be looking for? "I say before, it's like the fans - a strong team capable of being promoted quickly and to compete at the maximum level. "It's not a question of money, it's a question of if we have a structure that can allow the club in the next year and in the future years to be strong and competing in the Premier League hopefully. "I am happy to discuss all these things.....at the moment I am really pleased with the first conversation. I am really pleased with the people here - so the staff, players, directors - everyone here since I came has been fantastic. "I cannot say other things, than I want to be sure that if everything is fine. It has to be fine for me, but also for the club, for the fans, for everyone. When do you expect to come to a decision: "It's difficult to say, it depends on the conversation but I think that a couple of weeks could be a decent time. "In the meantime obviously we have a responsibility and we have been even working preparing the pre season and leaving everything ready for the next year. "So we cannot say yes and then not have time to move things in a professional way. So we are working as professionals and we are talking and I think that a couple of weeks maximum and we will have an idea." I'll never forgive the club if they don't do everything to keep him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Agreed also. I believe that if there is any chance that he's only said these positive things just to get through the press conference and then the match tomorrow, we'll find out tomorrow night. I think he genuinely wants to stay but will not do so unless he feels he can change the things that he thinks are wrong and I personally think he's the best person we've had at the club to do that since we had Bobby. It just shows how shit things have been that we're even debating this but that's where the club is now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 That .com writeup is excellent news. Just do whatever it takes Lee/Mike, you two-headed creature of failure. I'm pretty much out for life if they fuck this up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Don't think the full transcript reads as well as the thread title like. I'm not sure I even read the bit where he said that. "We have to talk, we will have more meetings and then we will see what happens. But if I am here and I am discussing these things, because obviously in my head it's a chance, it's a good chance and we have to keep talking." He doesn't actually say "there is a good chance that I will stay" though. It's a "it's a good chance" and the [that I will stay] isn't really implied imo. Soz to be a proper doom cloud like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 He could be this generation's Keegan in terms of impact and messiah qualities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Don't think the full transcript reads as well as the thread title like. I'm not sure I even read the bit where he said that. "We have to talk, we will have more meetings and then we will see what happens. But if I am here and I am discussing these things, because obviously in my head it's a chance, it's a good chance and we have to keep talking." He doesn't actually say "there is a good chance that I will stay" though. It's a "it's a good chance" and the [that I will stay] isn't really implied imo. Soz to be a proper doom cloud like. How isn't it really implied? "... obviously in my head it's a chance, it's a good chance" What is 'a good chance'? Besides 'him staying' I don't know what other reading is possible in the context of the conversation. Curious as to what you think he meant has 'a good chance' if not him staying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 I think he genuinely wants to stay but will not do so unless he feels he can change the things that he thinks are wrong and I personally think he's the best person we've had at the club to do that since we had Bobby. Couldn't agree more, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 This isn't about Rafa, it's about his wife and her charity work. http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/montse-benitez-pays-under-privileged-11331382#rlabs=1%20rt$category%20p$3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 I think he genuinely wants to stay but will not do so unless he feels he can change the things that he thinks are wrong and I personally think he's the best person we've had at the club to do that since we had Bobby. Couldn't agree more, Mick Seconded Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 He could be this generation's Keegan in terms of impact and messiah qualities. Yet another with a Liverpool link that may have fallen in love with the club. If they don't do everything in their power to keep him I will abandon the club period. You just know they'll be a spanner in the works somewhere down the line. Surely Ashley must realise a successful football club can only benefit him in the long run. I think he's tried to be clever with applying his Shit Direct model. It must have dawned that it will never work in the long run. Give us Rafa! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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