Darth Crooks Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Turn him into a sofa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Better than Diame tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 This is a pointless debate anyway. Just wait until De Jong returns to pre-season training and gets injured by a stray Riviere shot from 5 pitches away. Two puns for the price of one. Nice ?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Better than Diame tbh. Â Based on what? Diame's shite but at least he can stay on the pitch for longer than 20 minutes at a time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 FFS, I don't think anyone would turn their nose at brand new #10 Â I never really saw De Jong as a #10, more of a goal scoring midfielder like Nolan. Perez for me would be the sort of player who should be a good #10 in that he is creative as well as capable of getting goals. The problem is there have been too many games which have just passed him by in the last couple of seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Does everyone still know this is actually the Rafa Benitez thread? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 http://assets2.ignimgs.com/2015/05/20/unbreakable-1jpg-ad251e_1280w.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Better than Diame tbh. Â Based on what? Diame's shite but at least he can stay on the pitch for longer than 20 minutes at a time. Â So can Colback. Is he better than de Jong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Neither are better than De Jong based on statistics and achievements. But they just happened to have injury free seasons. If a shit player contribution in minutes is higher then that means something these days i think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Better than Diame tbh.  Based on what? Diame's shite but at least he can stay on the pitch for longer than 20 minutes at a time.  So can Colback. Is he better than de Jong?  Nope. I've stated many times that I'd rather play 10 men than have colback in the team. However a shite Diame is better than an injured De Jong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Better than Diame tbh.  Based on what? Diame's shite but at least he can stay on the pitch for longer than 20 minutes at a time.  So can Colback. Is he better than de Jong?  Nope. I've stated many times that I'd rather play 10 men than have colback in the team. However a shite Diame is better than an injured De Jong. But we wernt debating that, we we're talking about a fit De Jong vs a fit Diame, and in that scenerio I'd argue that the only thing that Diame has on De Jong is pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Better than Diame tbh.  Based on what? Diame's shite but at least he can stay on the pitch for longer than 20 minutes at a time.  So can Colback. Is he better than de Jong?  Nope. I've stated many times that I'd rather play 10 men than have colback in the team. However a shite Diame is better than an injured De Jong. But we wernt debating that, we we're talking about a fit De Jong vs a fit Diame, and in that scenerio I'd argue that the only thing that Diame has on De Jong is pace.  Well in that case, yes, De Jong should be better. Although we've not seen it for about 3 years now. We need to get rid of both of them and get someone who is a: better and b: fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrickTop Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 FFS, I don't think anyone would turn their nose at brand new #10 Â I never really saw De Jong as a #10, more of a goal scoring midfielder like Nolan. Perez for me would be the sort of player who should be a good #10 in that he is creative as well as capable of getting goals. The problem is there have been too many games which have just passed him by in the last couple of seasons. Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Better than Diame tbh.  Based on what? Diame's shite but at least he can stay on the pitch for longer than 20 minutes at a time.  So can Colback. Is he better than de Jong?  Nope. I've stated many times that I'd rather play 10 men than have colback in the team. However a shite Diame is better than an injured De Jong. But we wernt debating that, we we're talking about a fit De Jong vs a fit Diame, and in that scenerio I'd argue that the only thing that Diame has on De Jong is pace.  Well in that case, yes, De Jong should be better. Although we've not seen it for about 3 years now. We need to get rid of both of them and get someone who is a: better and b: fit.  De Jong has literally shown about 10 minutes of good play since being here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 He has been talked about in this thread more than he has played for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 He has been talked about in this thread more than he has played for us. Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 It's getting a bit tame in here chaps, in the words of the famous football strategist Biffa Bacon, doesn't anyone feel like calling Rafa's pint a puff? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 It's getting a bit tame in here chaps, in the words of the famous football strategist Biffa Bacon, doesn't anyone feel like calling Rafa's pint a puff? Â Ha ha! Quality! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Toon Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 The Ronny Gill's Mark Douglas has been advertising a scoop of a Q + A thing with Rafa for this weekend and he reckons he's answered all the questions that we want answers to.  I bet there's no guarantee that he stays here regardless as to whether we go up or not or Ashley keeping the purse closed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Toon Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 https://twitter.com/MsiDouglas/status/844975494932168705 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 International breaks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Sorry, but I think we all have very selective memories; de jong was pretty poor for us and never ever got a run of games to get match fitness either because he wasn´t played or he was injured or had a niggle. His play isn´t suited to us basically because we do not have enough movement off the ball. His major plus point is his calmness on the ball and ability to read the game, can remember a few inch perfect balls from him in his good (ish) games. We just don´t have the movement around him and he doesn´t move enough to offer Rafa the defensive part of the game he wants from every player on the park. Get rid as soon as possible for whatever fee and liberate a bit more salary space! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Sorry, but I think we all have very selective memories; de jong was pretty poor for us and never ever got a run of games to get match fitness either because he wasn´t played or he was injured or had a niggle. His play isn´t suited to us basically because we do not have enough movement off the ball. His major plus point is his calmness on the ball and ability to read the game, can remember a few inch perfect balls from him in his good (ish) games. We just don´t have the movement around him and he doesn´t move enough to offer Rafa the defensive part of the game he wants from every player on the park. Get rid as soon as possible for whatever fee and liberate a bit more salary space!  Tbh I disagree with him not fitting the style of play. We need someone further forward than Shelvey who can actually receive the ball and do something like pass it off to someone else. Diame and Perez can't do this, Mitrovic's hold up play is good but not good enough in any way to justify starting him over Gayle. We've got a team of runners and a quarterback, that's our only tactic right now and with De Jong, it lets us try something different when teams put 11 behind the ball. Point is moot as he's never fit though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 De Jong would arguably be our best target man if we had him in our current squad like. Shame he is never fit like. That being said Murphy has been a fantastic signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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