Altamullan Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I don't know if its because Rafa doesnt have faith in his players but his negative game management tactics are really having an effect on how we attack games, we look nervous at the back and switch off at the drop of a hat and are one of only two teams that failed to score against Zolas ridiculous Birmingham team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 He's not failed, not for me but imo the football has been utterly awful for a while. The tactics today were terrible, just hoofing it forward to a lone striker is Pardew eye bleeding s****. He's better than that, the players/squad are better than that imo. Just extremely poor stuff at times. I'm not convinced the squad is better that it's performing, not much better anyway. We've got 4-5 very good players, the rest in reality are bang average. This is another misconception imo that is regularly posted on here. We have a small number of players who look good at this level but very good players they are not, even in the championship. Gayle and Ritchie have scored plenty of goals but have often looked anonymous, Ritchie today was very poor. Shelvey has as many good qualities as terrible, the rest are as you say bang average. Clark who was pretty diabolical as a premier league defender has been by far our best player. Which would make the job Rafa has done all the more impressive then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 He said today that he didn't understand how we can perform so differently from Friday, but he changed half the bloody team, I'm sure that had some effect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I've not been comfortable with any of our results or performances ever since we lost at Hull in the league cup. Barring the wins against Brighton and Huddersfield, don't think I've felt totally happy during or after a game. That loss to Hull has made a big difference to my season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 He said today that he didn't understand how we can perform so differently from Friday, but he changed half the bloody team, I'm sure that had some effect. The two worst changes were Mbemba and Mitrovic (unless they were carrying injuries), both had decent games and Friday and would have surely had some confidence coming in for the first time this season, plus they have hardly played so certainly wouldn't have been tired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoU Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Promotion will be a great achievement and all that mattered imo. This is a tough league! Have anyone noticed how Villa and Norwich are doing? Were we really much ahead of them when we went down, if we do not take the manager into consideration? My primary disappointment have been that not many of the younger players have really broken through, but I blame that more on the players themselves than Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I personally think it's a dreadful league, especially when I watched that Derby vs Huddersfield match after ours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Yeah but to be fair you can't expect Villa to be doing anything, they only spent £50m in the summer and a further £20m in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Promotion will be a great achievement and all that mattered imo. This is a tough league! Have anyone noticed how Villa and Norwich are doing? Were we really much ahead of them when we went down, if we do not take the manager into consideration? My primary disappointment have been that not many of the younger players have really broken through, but I blame that more on the players themselves than Rafa. We've spent more on players than anyone but villa - I know it was balanced in monetary terms but the squad is still expensive in championship terms. Great achievement my arse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Yeah but to be fair you can't expect Villa to be doing anything, they only spent £50m in the summer and a further £20m in January. They also have the Championship's greatest ever manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 If we fail to go up it's a huge failure, especially from the position we were in, not sure it's a great achievement at all if we do go up, it's job done and move on, that's all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Underwhelming so far as NUFC manager in my opinion, expected us to be a team who were consistent and you sort of know what you're getting every time they step out onto the pitch, all we've had so far is major inconsistency across the season, some truly baffling tactical decisions and heads dropping all over the place when things get tough. A lot is to do with some of the dross still in the ranks and who we've brought in of course, but who had the summer to bring in the right players? The manager. Best we'll get and by no means would I want him gone (sick of having to write this disclaimer) But I don't think its over the top to say hes been disappointing in full results and performances wise. Think we'll just end up squeezing promotion, and just hope hes given some serious backing in the summer to kick us on, hopefully more suited again as a premier league manager. Ashley will be looking at this though and probably be thinking about giving control back to Carr (In Ashleys mind not mine) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Out of interest, why do you not want him gone if you think that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 He also said that he couldn't get the players he wanted in the summer because they wouldn't want to play in this division. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 What he's done for NUFC goes way beyond performances on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Out of interest, why do you not want him gone if you think that? Because I think he will get it right in the premier league if hes backed and hes by far the best we can hope for. All I'm saying is so far I think hes been underwhelming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 And wasn't backed in the January transfer window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 If we fail to go up it's a huge failure, especially from the position we were in, not sure it's a great achievement at all if we do go up, it's job done and move on, that's all. Agreed, though I don't discount the amount he's had to do behind the scenes at the same time to try and make it operate like a proper football club again. Lots of which was absolutely laughable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Underwhelming so far as NUFC manager in my opinion, expected us to be a team who were consistent and you sort of know what you're getting every time they step out onto the pitch, all we've had so far is major inconsistency across the season, some truly baffling tactical decisions and heads dropping all over the place when things get tough. A lot is to do with some of the dross still in the ranks and who we've brought in of course, but who had the summer to bring in the right players? The manager. Best we'll get and by no means would I want him gone (sick of having to write this disclaimer) But I don't think its over the top to say hes been disappointing in full results and performances wise. Think we'll just end up squeezing promotion, and just hope hes given some serious backing in the summer to kick us on, hopefully more suited again as a premier league manager. Ashley will be looking at this though and probably be thinking about giving control back to Carr (In Ashleys mind not mine) This is a pretty unfair criticism, IMO. He's basically tried to rebuild a whole squad in a single summer for a club in a not-so-desirable situation. When you have a massive turnover change like that, there's going to be plenty of wastage. That's a hangover from years and years of horrific recruitment - we still lack balance and I imagine it'll take another window or two to fully rectify it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 He also said that he couldn't get the players he wanted in the summer because they wouldn't want to play in this division. Or keep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 The fact we've somewhat struggled despite having a world class manager only highlights to me what an absolute clusterfuck this season would've been had he left. We would be looking at Villa and Norwich and feeling jealous I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Underwhelming so far as NUFC manager in my opinion, expected us to be a team who were consistent and you sort of know what you're getting every time they step out onto the pitch, all we've had so far is major inconsistency across the season, some truly baffling tactical decisions and heads dropping all over the place when things get tough. A lot is to do with some of the dross still in the ranks and who we've brought in of course, but who had the summer to bring in the right players? The manager. Best we'll get and by no means would I want him gone (sick of having to write this disclaimer) But I don't think its over the top to say hes been disappointing in full results and performances wise. Think we'll just end up squeezing promotion, and just hope hes given some serious backing in the summer to kick us on, hopefully more suited again as a premier league manager. Ashley will be looking at this though and probably be thinking about giving control back to Carr (In Ashleys mind not mine) I would love to think Rafa could work with Carr in the summer because between him and the Terrahawk he has brought in some good players, I would just hope that Rafa has final say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 The fact we've somewhat struggled despite having a world class manager only highlights to me what an absolute clusterfuck this season would've been had he left. We would be looking at Villa and Norwich and feeling jealous I reckon. Quite possibly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Underwhelming so far as NUFC manager in my opinion, expected us to be a team who were consistent and you sort of know what you're getting every time they step out onto the pitch, all we've had so far is major inconsistency across the season, some truly baffling tactical decisions and heads dropping all over the place when things get tough. A lot is to do with some of the dross still in the ranks and who we've brought in of course, but who had the summer to bring in the right players? The manager. Best we'll get and by no means would I want him gone (sick of having to write this disclaimer) But I don't think its over the top to say hes been disappointing in full results and performances wise. Think we'll just end up squeezing promotion, and just hope hes given some serious backing in the summer to kick us on, hopefully more suited again as a premier league manager. Ashley will be looking at this though and probably be thinking about giving control back to Carr (In Ashleys mind not mine) I would love to think Rafa could work with Carr in the summer because between him and the Terrahawk he has brought in some good players, I would just hope that Rafa has final say. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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