Guest neesy111 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Even at a top club, Rafa's regimented defensive formation is more suited to winning cup competitions to a league campaign. He would have won the title with Liverpool if he'd been prepared to go at the s*** teams a bit more. Arsenal fans would never be patient enough if he didn't win anything within the first season. I think Rafa would much prefer to stay here than go to London, our fans have watched some pretty awful football in the last couple of months but they have complete faith in him. Rafa got 82 and 86 points with Liverpool. Arsenal haven't done that since going unbeaten. They got 83 in 07/08. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Even at a top club, Rafa's regimented defensive formation is more suited to winning cup competitions to a league campaign. He would have won the title with Liverpool if he'd been prepared to go at the s*** teams a bit more. Arsenal fans would never be patient enough if he didn't win anything within the first season. I think Rafa would much prefer to stay here than go to London, our fans have watched some pretty awful football in the last couple of months but they have complete faith in him. Rafa got 82 and 86 points with Liverpool. Arsenal haven't done that since going unbeaten. Even at a top club, Rafa's regimented defensive formation is more suited to winning cup competitions to a league campaign. He would have won the title with Liverpool if he'd been prepared to go at the s*** teams a bit more. Arsenal fans would never be patient enough if he didn't win anything within the first season. I think Rafa would much prefer to stay here than go to London, our fans have watched some pretty awful football in the last couple of months but they have complete faith in him. Rafa got 82 and 86 points with Liverpool. Arsenal haven't done that since going unbeaten. If you are just going off stats, then Wenger actually won the title a few times and has been in the CL every season since he's been in charge. That might be worth more to the Arsenal board given they want to make money above honours anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 1-0 to the arsenal was 20 years ago now though. It's a generation ago. I don't think that would be given the time of day nowadays, unless results were pretty immediate. They have a different mentality to our fans and for that matter, to those of Liverpool/Man U fans - they want success and their whole club ethic has always been about professionalism at every level. I remain convinced that Rafa WOULD be among those they would be interested in and if Ashley HAS changed the ground-rules, he would be interested in them too because he too is a winner and wants to create a winning club. His chances of doing that at NUFC will be virtually zero if Ashley insists on his youth profile for potential signings. Wenger has given them some attractive sides and some decent signings but they have fallen by the wayside when it comes to trophies....NUFC fans have accepted that for their club but Gunners fans and the board have not . As for immediate results, Rafa has achieved those here but the football has not always been easy on the eye. If he did the same at PL level it would be acceptable for quite a few clubs' fans. I just hope Ashley sees sense - if not, we are likely to lose the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnMag Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Arsenal attacking football versus Rafa's tactics? There is no logic behind this latest rumour. Not gonna happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Arsenal attacking football versus Rafa's tactics? There is no logic behind this latest rumour. Not gonna happen. What ? You mean that Rafa despite having already asked Thierry Henry to become his assistant, for when he takes over at Arsenal after accepting the job, you mean none of that is 100% accurate... Well i just can't believe that isn't true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 It's never going to happen, but I'd love to see him give the good old 3-4-3 a shot once we're promoted. Darlow Mbemba Lascelles Clark Yedlin Hayden Shelvey Lazaar Rithie Gayle Perez or something like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 It's never going to happen, but I'd love to see him give the good old 3-4-3 a shot once we're promoted. Darlow Mbemba Lascelles Clark Yedlin Hayden Shelvey Lazaar Rithie Gayle Perez or something like that. Never going to happen. The whole reason we play as we are now, even though we could be easier on the eye, is preperation for next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 It's never going to happen, but I'd love to see him give the good old 3-4-3 a shot once we're promoted. Darlow Mbemba Lascelles Clark Yedlin Hayden Shelvey Lazaar Rithie Gayle Perez or something like that. Never going to happen. The whole reason we play as we are now, even though we could be easier on the eye, is preperation for next season. I don't believe that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 It's never going to happen, but I'd love to see him give the good old 3-4-3 a shot once we're promoted. Darlow Mbemba Lascelles Clark Yedlin Hayden Shelvey Lazaar Rithie Gayle Perez or something like that. Never going to happen. The whole reason we play as we are now, even though we could be easier on the eye, is preperation for next season. I don't believe that. I think i do, actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 I think The Mirror were pretty much right about the recent Ashley story, weren't they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Think I read that we've let in 8 goals in 15 away games. Pretty fucking good that, if it's true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 I think Rafa's days of working at the biggest clubs are done anyway, tbh. Such is the ego of the modern superstar footballer his style will be unpopular wherever he goes where he isn't the biggest person at the club. Liverpool was a partial exception to this. Obviously it's our gain, hopefully. Agreed. His time at the biggest clubs are gone. At least consistently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 It's never going to happen, but I'd love to see him give the good old 3-4-3 a shot once we're promoted. Darlow Mbemba Lascelles Clark Yedlin Hayden Shelvey Lazaar Rithie Gayle Perez or something like that. Never going to happen. The whole reason we play as we are now, even though we could be easier on the eye, is preperation for next season. I don't believe that. I think i do, actually. Of course it's true - Rafa is the intelligent type. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Time will tell.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Think I read that we've let in 8 goals in 16 away games. Pretty f***ing good that, if it's true. Read some stat on Twitter that when we've had 11 men on the pitch we've only been behind for 61 minutes away in the league this season and we were only ahead for about 93 minutes in away games last year. I thought it would take quite a big psychological shift to give us confidence away from home because of how bad we were last season ad Rafa's done it brilliantly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Think I read that we've let in 8 goals in 16 away games. Pretty f***ing good that, if it's true. Read some stat on Twitter that when we've had 11 men on the pitch we've only been behind for 61 minutes away in the league this season and we were only ahead for about 93 minutes in away games last year. I thought it would take quite a big psychological shift to give us confidence away from home because of how bad we were last season ad Rafa's done it brilliantly Plus, with that stat that we've only been behind in the league with 11 men on the pitch away for 61 minutes, we were behind for over 45 minutes v Fulham on the opening day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Love that he sees what most of the sensible fans see...plus more. Unbelievable we have this guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Could this have been leaked by Ashley (to the Mirror) after what Rafa said, last week? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 A tactical mastermind. Gets it wrong every now and again but more often than not he prevails. The fact that pundits thought we'd be better off with a clogger like Bruce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 I just cannot wait until he sorts out that 'Plan B' he apparently needs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 The fact that pundits thought we'd be better off with a clogger like Bruce Not just pundits, some on here said just last week that Bruce and McClaren would have more points than Rafa if they were our manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 I love Rafa, but I still don't understand why he starts Colback time and again. Perhaps it's a case of having a lack of options, but that ginger tosser continues to be a fucking liability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 I love Rafa, but I still don't understand why he starts Colback time and again. Perhaps it's a case of having a lack of options, but that ginger tosser continues to be a fucking liability. Think you answered your own question there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 I reckon he likes Colback as a player, for whatever reason. He turns to him so often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Hayden's been playing with a minor injury I think, and thats probably why he was rested and Foulback played. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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