Collage Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 I'm surprised B has any votes, but it's winning? Insane. I mean, if it was included in this hypothetical situation that Ashley had changed and we'd be run properly, I'd be willing to forgive and start again. But it's Ashley. Doesn't matter if Rafa gets the job, he'll f*** everything up again like he always does. Yep. Ashley is the cause of all our problems. It's a no-brainer for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 It's a B for me Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 I get why b is getting support. We've got for a long time a world class manager. Unfortunately the quality of coach isn't the fundamental long term problem. That said if he went, it's unlikely we'd get along he same calibre anytime soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Everyone's got such short memories. Remember what happened last time Ashley appointed a manager we all loved? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 A. Love Rafa but nobody us bigger than the club and Ashley would just f*ck things up further down the line. Ultimately I just want Ashley gone/dead and that takes priority over everything else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Rafa is the best thing to happen to this club in over a decade if he does stay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 A. Rafa quits, Ashley sells up, new owner in, rehires Rafa, we all enjoy a bright future without Blue and Red. Wouldn't that be C? I would have gone for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Long term have to get rid of Ashley, Rafa won't be here forever, Ashley could squat for years and years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 A, without a shadow of a doubt. You can have Rafa or similar as well as a future with a new owner, but even having Rafa under Ashley we're always just one decision away from destruction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Rafa in, a new owner could appoint s***. "We should stick with Pardew, who else could we get?" Equating Benitez with Pardew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 2 months ago 'A' would have been close to 100%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 I would take Rafa working under Ashley TBH, although it's a fucking awful choice to have to make. Who knows who a new owner might be, I'll take a couple of years of enthusiasm before I pop my clogs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Rafa in, a new owner could appoint s***. "We should stick with Pardew, who else could we get?" Equating Benitez with Pardew No - I'm equating Ashley with whoever the new owner is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 A, without a shadow of a doubt. You can have Rafa or similar as well as a future with a new owner, but even having Rafa under Ashley we're always just one decision away from destruction. Boom. Having Rafa isn't going to make the man with ultimate power a better owner or more competent. He still has the same motives and flawed intentions. Rafa will negate that for a little while but people are talking like he could build something or have us challenging for stuff. Can't see it myself at hate having that outlook. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Sadly A, Rafa if he stays may only last a season or so. Got to look at the bigger picture, Ashley going is the ultimate goal so the sooner the better. Put it another way Ashley goes and there's hope we appoint a proper manager anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 So from this, does it follow that people want Rafa to go because it makes it more likely Ashley will leave eventually? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 So from this, does it follow that people want Rafa to go because it makes it more likely Ashley will leave eventually? Of course it doesn't. It's a hypothetical question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 So from this, does it follow that people want Rafa to go because it makes it more likely Ashley will leave eventually? No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Rafa in, a new owner could appoint s***. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 A, Rafa is more important to Ashley than us. I do not and never will trust Ashley. He has ruined NUFC for me. Not even KK returning with unlimited money and control would entice me back, that is how much damage Ashley has caused to me personally as an NUFC fan. If I remove my hatred for Ashley and imagine that we are not owned by him, I'd love Rafa as our manager whatever the weather because he is fucking great. I'm in no doubt if he stays he will take us up and do extremely well, which would be good for the club, but Ashley owning us tarnishes everything. I cannot and never will be able to accept Ashley's NUFC whether it's under Pardew or Rafa. We are bigger than any one individual remember! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 So from this, does it follow that people want Rafa to go because it makes it more likely Ashley will leave eventually? Just in terms of the hypothetical. In reality I don't think it would make Ashley any more likely to sell, so given the option of ashley and rafa or ashley and not rafa, I'd take the former. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 A. Rafa or no Rafa, this isn't NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 It all hinges on whether you think Rafa can be a success here long term. Given what he's up against I'd say no unfortunately. Lee Charnley looks like he's staying above him for one. It's completely hypothetical though so if he does stay at least we'll have a decent manager until the inevitable happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 I'm a B. Let Rafa sort us out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 9 out of 10 managers and i'd say a. But honestly swaying towards b. If anyone can knock some sense into Ashley its Benitez Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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