joeyt Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Over 6'? Carr won't like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peder Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Nothing to see here, we wont sign anyone of interested, even tho we are still desperate for creativity! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Banaloona Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Rafa doesn't do creativity, so no one should be surprised at all. Colbacks will always prevail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Rafa doesn't do creativity, so no one should be surprised at all. Colbacks will always prevail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Rafa doesn't do creativity, so no one should be surprised at all. Colbacks will always prevail. Seriously, whats your beef with Rafa like? the guy has transformed the club, its freaking weird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Clervely off to Watford on loan. Sky Sports. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankles Bennett Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 His loss if he would rather join a no Mark club like Watford. Shows he has no ambition apart from retaining his status as a epl player...who can't get a game in the EPL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Payet please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 push the boat out & sign that Knockout bloke from Brighton man Can't see it, unfortunately. He's had a couple of family tradegies recently and looked as if he really appreciated how the club/his team mates rallied around (must increase his commitment). Plus they are as likely to be promoted. That said, I am sure we could offer a better contract would be seen as a better long-term option. It is a definite no. I read a great article by George Caulkin today in which he basically says his father's last wish was for Antony to get Brighton promoted and talks with huge warmth and appreciation of his teammates unexpectedly all coming to his father's funeral. There's an insight into father and son football banter, when he describes that if he hadn't played well his dad would simply tell him straight 'You were shit.' Made me smile and no doubt him too, despite his apparent sadness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 push the boat out & sign that Knockout bloke from Brighton man Can't see it, unfortunately. He's had a couple of family tradegies recently and looked as if he really appreciated how the club/his team mates rallied around (must increase his commitment). Plus they are as likely to be promoted. That said, I am sure we could offer a better contract would be seen as a better long-term option. It is a definite no. I read a great article by George Caulkin today in which he basically says his father's last wish was for Antony to get Brighton promoted and talks with huge warmth and appreciation of his teammates unexpectedly all coming to his father's funeral. There's an insight into father and son football banter, when he describes that if he hadn't played well his dad would simply tell him straight 'You were s***.' Made me smile and no doubt him too, despite his apparent sadness. Hughton probably had a word with the squad and then popped him to get him to stay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 The days of NUFC being a top draw for players are well and truly over, at least for the foreseeable future. Once KK got us promoted, lots of players wanted to join us and that continued throughout the 90s and a few years after because SBR eventually took over. Once players saw what happened with KK after Ashley took over and then the shambles of relegation they began to be wary and we only wanted to sign players who were below a certain age or foreign...usually French. We got lucky with Cabaye and at first, Tiote but when we failed to strengthen the squad properly after finishing 5th, we began to acquire the reputation of being cheapskates and unambitious...this has carried over to today's transfer window and top players - whether they be in the PL or Champ lge are not necessarily going to be in a rush to join us. Our lack of success in the past few years is going to raise red flags with decent foreign players too and in my view we will not be a magnet for decent players until we get promoted...even with Rafa at the helm - unless we pay stupid fees. If moderate players like Cleverley want to sign for the likes of Watford above us, it highlights the problem we face. We may make a signing or two, we may not, but Knockaert staying at Brighton is no surprise really. They have at least as good a chance of promotion, are playing better and he doesn't have to move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Guy, it's been 12 days. We don't even know for certain that Rafa wanted Cleverley. Chill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Except in the last couple of windows we've basically changed the whole team and signed some players exactly suited to what we need. Once January is over and we don't have a couple of players in, complain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Many Players don't want to drop down to the championship. It's quite simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexumaster Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 The tricky thing about Prem players being wary of us works the other way for the Championship. We're seen as the big fish, meaning Championship clubs know we have money and will try to rinse as much as possible for their best players. Which all means we will likely end up with f*** all or some flakey loan deals at the end of the window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 His loss if he would rather join a no Mark club like Watford. Shows he has no ambition apart from retaining his status as a epl player...who can't get a game in the EPL. Were we defdinitely in for him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 The days of NUFC being a top draw for players are well and truly over, at least for the foreseeable future. Once KK got us promoted, lots of players wanted to join us and that continued throughout the 90s and a few years after because SBR eventually took over. Once players saw what happened with KK after Ashley took over and then the shambles of relegation they began to be wary and we only wanted to sign players who were below a certain age or foreign...usually French. We got lucky with Cabaye and at first, Tiote but when we failed to strengthen the squad properly after finishing 5th, we began to acquire the reputation of being cheapskates and unambitious...this has carried over to today's transfer window and top players - whether they be in the PL or Champ lge are not necessarily going to be in a rush to join us. Our lack of success in the past few years is going to raise red flags with decent foreign players too and in my view we will not be a magnet for decent players until we get promoted...even with Rafa at the helm - unless we pay stupid fees. If moderate players like Cleverley want to sign for the likes of Watford above us, it highlights the problem we face. We may make a signing or two, we may not, but Knockaert staying at Brighton is no surprise really. They have at least as good a chance of promotion, are playing better and he doesn't have to move. Players go to the team who pays them the most money. A club's stature and other characteristics, like the manager or division, are relevant factors of course, but money's the kicker. There's nothing to get depressed about, it's just the state of the game. We're not one of the mega-rich Champions League elite, like 99.9999999% of all other football clubs on the planet, that's all. I'm sure our lack of signings so far is a decision made on our terms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I'm sure our lack of signings so far is a decision made on our terms. if we don't sign anyone it's completely on us - we can afford it. Thick as fuck if we don't sign a couple this window, Rafa obviously wants to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 We can't just make signings because we want to. The club needs to sell and the player needs to want to go. Often either or both will not happen this month and those who do are simply not good enough. It always surprises me how people forget this every year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Downing is apparently wanted on loan by Allardyce for Palace but he's reluctant to leave home. It does sound like he'd be a decent short term signing for us given he's left footed and even without pace, has to be a better option than Gouffran. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 If you look back to January 2010, the signings we made were extremely easy in the grand scheme of things. There was an obvious hole at right-mid; Routledge was a good Championship player and was always gonna be happy to leave QPR to come here. Easy peasy and made a huge difference. We needed cover at centre back; Williamson was proven at a lower level and never going to play at Portsmouth. He'd have probably accepted any transfer and was cheap. Again, easy transfer and made a good impact on the squad. Best was a strange choice but again, we hardly had to move the Earth to bring him here. The rest were free agents and loans, signed purely because the squad wasn't very big and we needed backup to the backup. Completely, completely different this time. I've mentioned this more than once this season but I still feel that some people are basing their expectations for the season on our last Championship campaign. And whilst there are certain similarities, it's really actually chalk and cheese. The club is in a different type of place, the squad is a different type of squad (I.e completely new), it's a very different sort of manager and the whole landscape of the game (and the disparity between the top two leagues) is a different kettle of fish to 2010. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 We can't just make signings because we want to. The club needs to sell and the player needs to want to go. Often either or both will not happen this month and those who do are simply not good enough. It always surprises me how people forget this every year. Nobody forgets it, it's just a completely irrelevant point. If we want to sign a LM and a CM we absolutely can. It's the job of the scouts and Charnley to find ones who fit our requirements and who "the club [is willing] to sell and the player [wants] to go". People go on like there's half a dozen players available every window, and not like an entire world out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 If during an entire transfer window we cannot find a CM and LM we could sign better than Colback and Gouffran we may as well just liquidate the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 If during an entire transfer window we cannot find a CM and LM we could sign better than Colback and Gouffran we may as well just liquidate the club. What if they are aiming higher than replacing those two? Surely we shouldn't just except shite to slightly less shite? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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