Scoot Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Guy, it's been 12 days. We don't even know for certain that Rafa wanted Cleverley. Chill. There's some reet knackers among our supporters. This little bad spell we have been has proved this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 If during an entire transfer window we cannot find a CM and LM we could sign better than Colback and Gouffran we may as well just liquidate the club. What if they are aiming higher than replacing those two? Surely we shouldn't just except s**** to slightly less s****? The danger though is that we come out of the window with those two still starting for us because we aim for too high rather than better than we have. If those two remain our first choices I honestly don't think we will make the automatic positions, it's critical to me that the least we do is to ensure that Colback doesn't start another game for us this season, the bloke is costing us points at the minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 His loss if he would rather join a no Mark club like Watford. Shows he has no ambition apart from retaining his status as a epl player...who can't get a game in the EPL. /cringe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 If during an entire transfer window we cannot find a CM and LM we could sign better than Colback and Gouffran we may as well just liquidate the club. What if they are aiming higher than replacing those two? Surely we shouldn't just except s**** to slightly less s****? The danger though is that we come out of the window with those two still starting for us because we aim for too high rather than better than we have. If those two remain our first choices I honestly don't think we will make the automatic positions, it's critical to me that the least we do is to ensure that Colback doesn't start another game for us this season, the bloke is costing us points at the minute. we need to bring people in imo. Our squad has looked suspect the last month and although we still should have enough to get promoted comfortably I cannot see any point in risking it for the sake of £10-15m (and wages). If we cannot get anyone in on loan or any 'star' players we're happy with for the future then just sign another Murphy, Gamez or Hanley who are here to boost the squad for the rest of the Championship season and then either be sold on or remain in reserve in the Premiership for a year or so. I know those players look like bad examples as they haven't had much game time, but we're so short in the centre, and Hanley and Gamez atleast looked like potential first teamers at the time. LW I think we need someone really decent like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 If during an entire transfer window we cannot find a CM and LM we could sign better than Colback and Gouffran we may as well just liquidate the club. It's not that bad like. We need signings in those positions but more than likely we'll go up even if we sign no one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Aye definitely, the point I'm making is that we can sign players. If we don't then either our scouts are terrible or we're taking a pointless risk with the squad we have to save money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 His loss if he would rather join a no Mark club like Watford. Shows he has no ambition apart from retaining his status as a epl player...who can't get a game in the EPL. /cringe Not sure how this is "cringe". I've just googled Watford FC and it's true - there are NO MARKS in the squad. Closest is rene GilMARtin, Adrian MARiappa, Honourable mentions to Nordin AMRAbat and Valon BenRAMi for trying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 If the criteria was simply "be a better player than Colback or Gouffran" Thauvin and Saivet would still be here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Never been a fan of Downing, but I seem to remember him doing well at some point. Never impressed me for england, but by that point I wasn't impressed with England. If Rafa was to consider him capable of contributing to our promotion, then I'd happily welcome him on loan. With a priority placed on filling that position in the summer. My attitude is the same towards replacing Colback. I'd love it if we got 2 players who are primed for the Premiership, but I'd hate it if we got the next Ben Arfa and some nugget lump of a Championship centre half put him out for 16 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 His loss if he would rather join a no Mark club like Watford. Shows he has no ambition apart from retaining his status as a epl player...who can't get a game in the EPL. /cringe Not sure how this is "cringe". I've just googled Watford FC and it's true - there are NO MARKS in the squad. Closest is rene GilMARtin, Adrian MARiappa, Honourable mentions to Nordin AMRAbat and Valon BenRAMi for trying. found this disproportionately funny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Janmaat sounds similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 His loss if he would rather join a no Mark club like Watford. Shows he has no ambition apart from retaining his status as a epl player...who can't get a game in the EPL. /cringe Not sure how this is "cringe". I've just googled Watford FC and it's true - there are NO MARKS in the squad. Closest is rene GilMARtin, Adrian MARiappa, Honourable mentions to Nordin AMRAbat and Valon BenRAMi for trying. found this disproportionately funny. It's excellent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Might need to take a risk and get some forrins in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 If the criteria was simply "be a better player than Colback or Gouffran" Thauvin and Saivet would still be here. Truth be told, we would be stronger if they were. Thauvin has 10 times the quality of Gouf and I'm not sure what Saivet did to piss Rafa off but I would pick him in the side 10 times out of 10 ahead of the local lad. Obviously Thauvin didn't want to be here but Saivet could have offered us something more than what we have in there right now, I'm sure of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 If the criteria was simply "be a better player than Colback or Gouffran" Thauvin and Saivet would still be here. Truth be told, we would be stronger if they were. Thauvin has 10 times the quality of Gouf and I'm not sure what Saivet did to piss Rafa off but I would pick him in the side 10 times out of 10 ahead of the local lad. Obviously Thauvin didn't want to be here but Saivet could have offered us something more than what we have in there right now, I'm sure of that. If it was just about ability then Gouffran would never be starting ahead of Atsu never mind Thauvin. Rafa is clearly a manager who puts a lot of stock by hard work and positional discipline, that's the only reason I can guess that Gouff gets the nod week in week out. All the skill in the world is no use if you are going to act like a fanny a la Thauvin during his time here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 His loss if he would rather join a no Mark club like Watford. Shows he has no ambition apart from retaining his status as a epl player...who can't get a game in the EPL. /cringe Not sure how this is "cringe". I've just googled Watford FC and it's true - there are NO MARKS in the squad. Closest is rene GilMARtin, Adrian MARiappa, Honourable mentions to Nordin AMRAbat and Valon BenRAMi for trying. found this disproportionately funny. Unlike your posts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 His loss if he would rather join a no Mark club like Watford. Shows he has no ambition apart from retaining his status as a epl player...who can't get a game in the EPL. /cringe Not sure how this is "cringe". I've just googled Watford FC and it's true - there are NO MARKS in the squad. Closest is rene GilMARtin, Adrian MARiappa, Honourable mentions to Nordin AMRAbat and Valon BenRAMi for trying. found this disproportionately funny. Unlike your posts. Oooof, right in the feels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I'm sure our lack of signings so far is a decision made on our terms. if we don't sign anyone it's completely on us - we can afford it. Thick as f*** if we don't sign a couple this window, Rafa obviously wants to. From what I can remember a lot of our business in the summer came out of the blue, Diame and Clark certainly did and I can't remember days/weeks of speculation before Ritchie and Gayle either. We seemed to know players were on their way for definite about 24 hours before they were holding a medical. I'm hoping it's the same this month, we seem to want to keep our cards very close to our chest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I've never rated Downing, really don't see what he does regularly well that could change games. No pace, doesn't take defenders on, scores rarely but can deliver a decent cross. No denying he's made a canny career for himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 His loss if he would rather join a no Mark club like Watford. Shows he has no ambition apart from retaining his status as a epl player...who can't get a game in the EPL. /cringe Not sure how this is "cringe". I've just googled Watford FC and it's true - there are NO MARKS in the squad. Closest is rene GilMARtin, Adrian MARiappa, Honourable mentions to Nordin AMRAbat and Valon BenRAMi for trying. found this disproportionately funny. Unlike your posts. Oooof, right in the feels. Your posts are proportionately funny disco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 His loss if he would rather join a no Mark club like Watford. Shows he has no ambition apart from retaining his status as a epl player...who can't get a game in the EPL. /cringe Not sure how this is "cringe". I've just googled Watford FC and it's true - there are NO MARKS in the squad. Closest is rene GilMARtin, Adrian MARiappa, Honourable mentions to Nordin AMRAbat and Valon BenRAMi for trying. found this disproportionately funny. Unlike your posts. Oooof, right in the feels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 The days of NUFC being a top draw for players are well and truly over, at least for the foreseeable future. Once KK got us promoted, lots of players wanted to join us and that continued throughout the 90s and a few years after because SBR eventually took over. Once players saw what happened with KK after Ashley took over and then the shambles of relegation they began to be wary and we only wanted to sign players who were below a certain age or foreign...usually French. We got lucky with Cabaye and at first, Tiote but when we failed to strengthen the squad properly after finishing 5th, we began to acquire the reputation of being cheapskates and unambitious...this has carried over to today's transfer window and top players - whether they be in the PL or Champ lge are not necessarily going to be in a rush to join us. Our lack of success in the past few years is going to raise red flags with decent foreign players too and in my view we will not be a magnet for decent players until we get promoted...even with Rafa at the helm - unless we pay stupid fees. If moderate players like Cleverley want to sign for the likes of Watford above us, it highlights the problem we face. We may make a signing or two, we may not, but Knockaert staying at Brighton is no surprise really. They have at least as good a chance of promotion, are playing better and he doesn't have to move. Players go to the team who pays them the most money. A club's stature and other characteristics, like the manager or division, are relevant factors of course, but money's the kicker. There's nothing to get depressed about, it's just the state of the game. We're not one of the mega-rich Champions League elite, like 99.9999999% of all other football clubs on the planet, that's all. I'm sure our lack of signings so far is a decision made on our terms. Money is important to many players but it isn't the be-all and end-all...if it were, Ronaldo would now be heading for China as one of their mega-rich clubs offered him mega-bucks, far and away in excess of what Real would ever pay him but he stayed at Madrid... We are not talking about players of that category - nobody is getting depressed about lack of signings but many are concerned as they can see the squad needs fresh input or promotion is far from certain and that would set us back years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNGLEGIONNAIRE Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Maybe the gamble that this squad can take us up absolutely must be taken , because Rafa knows that it is THEN that a drastic change of personnel , and thus major investment , is needed to enable his game plan to survive without looking utterly ineffective amongst the big boys . Realistically we know Rafa won't be working without some restrictions and he maybe realises he needs every last penny for the big upgrade needed if and when. Could be loanees if anything at all this window . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Banaloona Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 At the end of this window, if Colback is an option for 1st team football and we haven't invested in a creative #10, we won't go up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 We're effectively 7 points clear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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