Guest chopey Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 that's the flipside as well i guess isn't it, given it's an ashley run club there will likely be no drive to just get people off the books by reducing transfer fees and such to make the deals more agreeable for buying clubs off the top of my head i would personally want rid of as many of the following as possible with better replacements brought in in their positions krul/darlow/elliot (2 from 3) lazaar gamez hanley colback diame haidara gouffran (gone obvs) murphy mitro de jong saivet riviere ...that's 14 players and how many could we be looking to get +£5m in fees for? probably mitro and the keepers, the rest need to be shipped for very low fees to get them off the books but i can't see how this will ever happen i think we'll get buyers for the likes of hanley and murphy but in order to dredge the last penny out of the deals they'll probably end up being very late in the window which is the last thing we want There must be at least £30 million worth of players in that lot never mind the wages saved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 that's the flipside as well i guess isn't it, given it's an ashley run club there will likely be no drive to just get people off the books by reducing transfer fees and such to make the deals more agreeable for buying clubs off the top of my head i would personally want rid of as many of the following as possible with better replacements brought in in their positions krul/darlow/elliot (2 from 3) lazaar gamez hanley colback diame haidara gouffran (gone obvs) murphy mitro de jong saivet riviere ...that's 14 players and how many could we be looking to get +£5m in fees for? probably mitro and the keepers, the rest need to be shipped for very low fees to get them off the books but i can't see how this will ever happen i think we'll get buyers for the likes of hanley and murphy but in order to dredge the last penny out of the deals they'll probably end up being very late in the window which is the last thing we want There must be at least £30 million worth of players in that lot never mind the wages saved I agree, but to raise that we'd have to be willing to let some of them go for fees that are not what we might hope to get. Can't see us doing that at all. We need to be aggressive in selling as much as buying imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 I still don't believe we have anywhere near £70m to spend. I can see us spending £20m tops. I think we will spend around £70m total, so about £50m or so left to spend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Express show the following for our transfer business so far. "In Christian Atsu (Chelsea) £6.2m Florian Lejeune (SD Eibar) £8.7m Stefan O'Connor (Arsenal) Free Josef Yarney (Everton) Free Out Florian Thauvin (Marseille) Undisclosed Kevin Mbabu (BSC Young Boys) Undisclosed Matz Sels (Anderlecht) Loan Haris Vuckic (FC Twente) Undisclosed Lubomir Satka (DAC 1904) Free Vurnon Anita (Leeds United) Free Alex Gilliead (Bradford City) Loan " £14.9m spent. I agree that to some extent the amount of further outlay will depend on who we can get shot of, and how much we get, but I expect another £65m. One or two around the £20m mark, a couple in the £5-10m bracket , and any remainder to contribute to one or two loan signings. Wouldn't be surprised to see a free signing or two as well. Do think we will go to the wire though/have late signings, given the likely haggling that will be going on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 I still don't believe we have anywhere near £70m to spend. I can see us spending £20m tops. I think we will spend around £70m total, so about £50m or so left to spend. £70m excluding that raised from sales i assume? that's what i'd expect to see personally Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 I still don't believe we have anywhere near £70m to spend. I can see us spending £20m tops. Meaning we would have about 5 million left Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 I am worried now like, next few weeks will probably let us know for sure what our intentions are. I'm not optimistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 that's the flipside as well i guess isn't it, given it's an ashley run club there will likely be no drive to just get people off the books by reducing transfer fees and such to make the deals more agreeable for buying clubs off the top of my head i would personally want rid of as many of the following as possible with better replacements brought in in their positions krul/darlow/elliot (2 from 3) lazaar gamez hanley colback diame haidara gouffran (gone obvs) murphy mitro de jong saivet riviere ...that's 14 players and how many could we be looking to get +£5m in fees for? probably mitro and the keepers, the rest need to be shipped for very low fees to get them off the books but i can't see how this will ever happen i think we'll get buyers for the likes of hanley and murphy but in order to dredge the last penny out of the deals they'll probably end up being very late in the window which is the last thing we want Scary how we have such a long list of shite on our books. As much as Ashley is right to say we can't have this many players on our books, it's his disastrous transfer policy that's led to us accumulating so much shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Leazes_End_Mag Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 They'll let him sign for Leicester before they make a exciting enquiry. In all seriousness though, I wouldn't be shocked if Rafa agreed to stay on the promise of say around 25/30m to spend this summer and then any money made from player sales, outside invsmestment, etc being added to top up the pot. The issue at the minute is that we appear to be unable to close the deal with any 3rd party investors and there's minimum interest in any of our players so we're stuck in a very dangerous position where we're looking at deals for what would probably be 3rd choice targets rather than 1st. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Even if we could find a buyer for our surplus to requirement players, how many are going to be willing to accept the huge pay cut they'll need to take? Some will want to leave to get playing time. Some will stay because they know they'll never get paid as much ever again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 We probably only have like ~60m to spend now after Lejeune. Not gonna spunk 29m of it on one player like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 It's only July... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sempuki Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Loftus-Cheek - Mark Douglas verdict Ruben Loftus-Cheek, then. No doubt Newcastle have an interest in him and a couple of other Chelsea youngsters - they’ve been offered Lewis Baker, too, I understand - but at the moment that area is not a priority for Rafa Benitez as he looks to the winger and striker berths that need to be filled at Newcastle. Loftus-Cheek is clearly an A-grade talent and it might be that Newcastle make an offer. But I don’t think that area is the next department where Newcastle will strike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 A CM should be the very top of our list. Very worrying that Rafa doesn't think so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 A CM should be the very top of our list. Very worrying that Rafa doesn't think so. We've apparently made a bid for one from one of the top sides in Spain. Someone suggested Mateo Kovacic at Real Madrid, who is apparently available for around £17.5 million. Rafa took him to Madrid from Inter. Would be a great signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Seriously though, are we f***ing skint? Don't think we're skint but I think missing the Sky gravy train last season has hit us more than we thought in terms of where we are compared to everyone. That'd be fine if f***ing Huddersfield weren't outspending us If we'd spent £40m on who they've bought there'd have been hell on. That's not the point though. The point is that they have already spent £40m and seemingly have more available, whilst we've spent £8m and even struggled to get that done. But we could easily have spent £40m by now if that was the calibre of player we wanted to sign. (and we've spent £15m...woopdeedoo) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Chibas Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 A CM should be the very top of our list. Very worrying that Rafa doesn't think so. One injury from The Colback Effect re-emerging. Loftus-Cheek is a huge talent. Worth testing Chelsea's resolve with a bid for a permanent transfer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 A CM should be the very top of our list. Very worrying that Rafa doesn't think so. One injury from The Colback Effect re-emerging. Loftus-Cheek is a huge talent. Worth testing Chelsea's resolve with a bid for a permanent transfer. don't know why they'd entertain what we'd offer at this point - ake has shown what they can get back for their youngsters if they want to move them on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Here we go again: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 A CM should be the very top of our list. Very worrying that Rafa doesn't think so. One injury from The Colback Effect re-emerging. Loftus-Cheek is a huge talent. Worth testing Chelsea's resolve with a bid for a permanent transfer. don't know why they'd entertain what we'd offer at this point - ake has shown what they can get back for their youngsters if they want to move them on Ake has already proven himself at PL level. Loftus Cheek hasn't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 O Jogo'n.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 A CM should be the very top of our list. Very worrying that Rafa doesn't think so. One injury from The Colback Effect re-emerging. Loftus-Cheek is a huge talent. Worth testing Chelsea's resolve with a bid for a permanent transfer. don't know why they'd entertain what we'd offer at this point - ake has shown what they can get back for their youngsters if they want to move them on Ake has already proven himself at PL level. Loftus Cheek hasn't we're not going to pay say £15m for him - other clubs in the PL with TV cash will pay it, that's the point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Here we go again: No English source has reported it and our local media said we wouldn't bid as high as €15 when that was the asking price a couple of weeks ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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