Guest Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 If the likes of Deportivo and Fenerbahce really are dicking around with loan bids, we'll probably get him for a similar fee to.Murphy. £10m with add-ons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I don't know if that is "new info" but the "to Fenerbahce" rumour from NUFC 360 yesterday looks like it was them putting the wind up everyone by rehashing old info. The impression I get is that Perez wants to go to Spain but Deportivo aren't in any hurry to pay Arsenal's price. I've only see that tweet with the stats and another of him leathering one in during training, but that's good enough for me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 20-25mil on Perez and Gibbs would be money very well spent IMO. f***ing ridiculous we're falling behind still. I want both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I don't think anyone expected the transfer prices to go as crazy as they have, it's just ridiculous and the bubble will burst leaving clubs lumbered with average players who they paid £50mil for and on mega wages. Ashley will be looking for players on zero hours contracts and minimum wage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Where has all this stuff about us paying massive wages come from? I realise relatively they will be astronomical compared to your average man on the street, but I was under the impression that relative to other football clubs, we paid a more moderate sum and using the "shop window/stepping stone" argument to sign players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 The whole thing is a bubble. From the TV revenue to transfer prices and wages. Ashley is also the ultimate shark when it comes to capitalising on bubbles bursting. He's treating this like any of those high street stores he gobbles up. The second these big spending clubs start to realise they can't afford what they've done this summer, he'll be there like a buzzard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Where has all this stuff about us paying massive wages come from? I realise relatively they will be astronomical compared to your average man on the street, but I was under the impression that relative to other football clubs, we paid a more moderate sum and using the "shop window/stepping stone" argument to sign players? Massive wages compared to France, Holland, even Spain, which is where we're probably trying to offload to. A big team in the Championship could probably match some of the wages of the shitter players but guess they won't pay the transfer fees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 20-25mil on Perez and Gibbs would be money very well spent IMO. f***ing ridiculous we're falling behind still. I want both. Not a chance we're spending another 25m. I'd be shocked if we spend another 5/10m in this window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Chibas Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 The whole thing is a bubble. From the TV revenue to transfer prices and wages. Ashley is also the ultimate shark when it comes to capitalising on bubbles bursting. He's treating this like any of those high street stores he gobbles up. The second these big spending clubs start to realise they can't afford what they've done this summer, he'll be there like a buzzard. This broadcast, explaining the club's genius level planning on the transfer front, was brought to you by The Sports Direct United Transfer Window War Room Channel. Oh btw....... Hi Justin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Jonathan Wilson was reckoning the foreign TV deal is likely to go up around 33% when it's renegotiated next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Jonathan Wilson was reckoning the foreign TV deal is likely to go up around 33% when it's renegotiated next year. Good stuff, I was thinking the PL could use a bit more money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Jonathan Wilson was reckoning the foreign TV deal is likely to go up around 33% when it's renegotiated next year. Good stuff, I was thinking the PL could use a bit more money. We'll get relegated before then as Ashley never sees the bigger picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Jonathan Wilson was reckoning the foreign TV deal is likely to go up around 33% when it's renegotiated next year. The UK rights battle is up for grabs this year and it sounds like Sky are paying double per season for the Football League so that will only massively increase too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Jonathan Wilson was reckoning the foreign TV deal is likely to go up around 33% when it's renegotiated next year. The UK rights battle is up for grabs this year and it sounds like Sky are paying double per season for the Football League so that will only massively increase too! I think the next deal will be insane and will lead to the end of easy access premier league football you could potentially have Sky, BT, Virgin, Google, Amazon and Facebook with one package each it will cost an absolute fortune for the average punter to watch games, illegal streams will be the only way to go and these big broadcasters will lose a fortune which will lead to clubs getting into serious financial trouble building teams based on money they wont receive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 How are the TV deals for other leagues such as La Liga and Chinese Super League in comparison? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Can't find it now, but I'm sure I saw something recently where the Chinese League's TV deal went from something like £7m a year, to £800m a year pretty much overnight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Neill Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Jonathan Wilson was reckoning the foreign TV deal is likely to go up around 33% when it's renegotiated next year. The UK rights battle is up for grabs this year and it sounds like Sky are paying double per season for the Football League so that will only massively increase too! I think the next deal will be insane and will lead to the end of easy access premier league football you could potentially have Sky, BT, Virgin, Google, Amazon and Facebook with one package each it will cost an absolute fortune for the average punter to watch games, illegal streams will be the only way to go and these big broadcasters will lose a fortune which will lead to clubs getting into serious financial trouble building teams based on money they wont receive. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the case. The ATP Tennis just went to Amazon in what is essentially their first significant sports TV rights package outside of the US. That splits tennis primarily across four stations (BBC, Eurosport, BT Sport & Amazon). I believe similar has just happened with cricket in that BT have grabbed all Australian home tests including the Ashes away from Sky. There's absolutely no reason to believe that the same isn't going to happen with football in the near future. Sky are clearly look for that not to happen by offloading other sports to free up money to bid as much as they can but I can see a time coming where the paying customer at home gets very little for their money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Jonathan Wilson was reckoning the foreign TV deal is likely to go up around 33% when it's renegotiated next year. I think I heard him say that on one of the podcasts. Whoever it was I heard said that the domestic deal wouldn't significantly increase, which suggests the big boost in tv money is partly based on speculation over overseas interest in the PL. I reckon this makes it more likely that the big increases in tv money are unsustainable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Aye that's the same thing I listened too. Might have been Football Weekly. As an aside how gutted are you if you're Peter Beardsley or someone else class from that era. Seeing comparative shite getting paid a fuck ton and knowing you just missed out on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 It's dead simple, make clubs use a certain percentage of the tv revenue towards lowering season ticket prices or investing in grass roots/academy football. This way, good comes out of the tv money instead of lining agents and footballers pockets. I don't mind them being rich but they don't need to be any richer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 https://mobile.twitter.com/BlackWhiteBarmy/status/895246206733094912 Still hope for this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Interest in overseas broadcasts of the PL will always be limited by time differences. With the Internet, people now want to see and know everything live as it happens, and only a certain number will go out of their way to stay up late or tune in in the morning. City, Chelsea, PSG, and Barca for a while are/were bankrolled by fossil fuel money, and that may be on the wane too. It's quite possible that football is indeed in a bubble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Interest in overseas broadcasts of the PL will always be limited by time differences. With the Internet, people now want to see and know everything live as it happens, and only a certain number will go out of their way to stay up late or tune in in the morning. City, Chelsea, PSG, and Barca for a while are/were bankrolled by fossil fuel money, and that may be on the wane too. It's quite possible that football is indeed in a bubble. Depends, if you live in Europe then the time difference isn't going to be much (though domestic football in other European leagues will provide decent competition. If it's North America then the East coast usually aren't that far behind, a 3pm KO is just a morning KO, West Coast has a little more difficulty. Even then parts of Africa and the middle east aren't that far away from KO. It's only really the far east who have a major disadvantage. even then you love football and have your own team who you support then they will watch it no matter what time it's on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Feel like we'll sign Lucas Perez only based on the fact that nobody has outright denied it and Rafa continues to joke and smile about it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Feel like we'll sign Lucas Perez only based on the fact that nobody has outright denied it and Rafa continues to joke and smile about it Depends more on whether he wants to come more than anything else I reckon. He's not that expensive so even our tight fisted board might find a way to make it happen if only to placate Rafa and try to stay up. But if it's true that he wants to go back to Spain, then it's probably not going to work anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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