Jimburst Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 'Having a go'? Do you mean...having a debate? I can't see any abuse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 11 hours ago, jack j said: Atmosphere against palace was shit and that's with flags on the go. Tbh I think the flags every game loses abit effect. Don't think they need to be rolled out every home game Heard this before. It was/seemed a good atmosphere where I was. Where were you? Often sounds/seems a bit meh if you’re in the Milburn for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 1 hour ago, UncleBingo said: I'll do my own thing thanks, simmer down you obsequious berk. ? not for public argument, just for use of word obsequious—had to look it up—and juxtaposition (…not competing—am a bit ?) with berk! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 45 minutes ago, Jimburst said: 'Having a go'? Do you mean...having a debate? I can't see any abuse. Ok, criticising people for daring to discuss the merits of having a display. I mean, even an admin did that. Admittedly, I've not read every post, but where are the ones claiming debates aren't allowed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Happinesstan said: Is that uniquely British like? I think most folk would agree the current scenes in London are uniquely British, whether you’re pro or anti monarchy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: I think most folk would agree the current scenes in London are uniquely British, whether you’re pro or anti monarchy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: I think most folk would agree the current scenes in London are uniquely British, whether you’re pro or anti monarchy. I’ve seen similar in North Korea, so unique might be pushing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 @Whitley magdo you acknowledge that Andrew is a child sex offender? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Theregulars said: @Whitley magdo you acknowledge that Andrew is a child sex offender? Absolutely but calling him out in front of his family whilst his mother was being carted up the Royal Mile was out of order. I would say that regarding anybody aswell, there’s a time and place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Just have to time it perfectly today so arrive bang on 3pm and miss all the nonsense beforehand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: Absolutely but calling him out in front of his family whilst his mother was being carted up the Royal Mile was out of order. I would say that regarding anybody aswell, there’s a time and place. I understand that sentiment and argument, but I think there’s room to also argue that there are very few situations where “subjects” are allowed near the family to actually make their views of them known; I also think doing so in that scenario was an act of courage given that he wasn’t likely to get that “audience” with media attention. I think beating him and throwing him on the floor and arresting him was absurd, although I do concede your time and place argument has merit. I think it’s a difficult nuance - it was simultaneously right and wrong, and necessary and unnecessary, which makes it hard. This is not meant as a criticism, it’s a genuine question from someone who feels no connection to them at all: what is about them that promotes strong feelings of national pride in you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Everyone just be mindful and respectful towards each other, cant believe i have to type that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, Theregulars said: I understand that sentiment and argument, but I think there’s room to also argue that there are very few situations where “subjects” are allowed near the family to actually make their views of them known; I also think doing so in that scenario was an act of courage given that he wasn’t likely to get that “audience” with media attention. I think beating him and throwing him on the floor and arresting him was absurd, although I do concede your time and place argument has merit. I think it’s a difficult nuance - it was simultaneously right and wrong, and necessary and unnecessary, which makes it hard. This is not meant as a criticism, it’s a genuine question from someone who feels no connection to them at all: what is about them that promotes strong feelings of national pride in you? I don’t blindly support the royals and Andrew is a despicable individual, however the Queen has earned respect through her service to the country in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, Northerngimp said: Everyone just be mindful and respectful towards each other, cant believe i have to type that. I’m not sure it’s that simple. There are people who find the celebration of an institution that has, at the very least, been related to some pretty grotesque stuff (colonialism? Mass impoverishment?) fundamentally disrespectful. There are others who then find people who think that disrespectful. I would observe the silence but wouldn’t sing the anthem. I was raised not to as a child and I agree with my parents’ reasoning in teaching me not to. I’m certainly not singing it for Charles, who (if you followed the Panama papers leaks) is, at best, quite disingenuous when he talks about serving his subjects with love and devotion. 5 days after he said that he made his home staff redundant. This isn’t to pick a fight, but I hope I’m conveying that “be quiet and respect the moment” isn’t a stance that works for everyone. I don’t believe the royal family respect me so I don’t return the favour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: I don’t blindly support the royals and Andrew is a despicable individual, however the Queen has earned respect through her service to the country in my opinion. Yeh that’s fair enough - sorry, I hope I’m not coming across as a prick; I just enjoy debate because you learn that way. The aim of argument is not to “win” but to progress and self-improve! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Theregulars said: Yeh that’s fair enough - sorry, I hope I’m not coming across as a prick; I just enjoy debate because you learn that way. The aim of argument is not to “win” but to progress and self-improve! No problem with that mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Inferior Acuña said: It's also the first time in 70 years a new unelected head of state has been appointed. The only 'right' time is a time that the press and royal can easily ignore it... I'm uneasy with the concept of 'being proud to be British' or any nationality because what does it even mean - but if anything makes me proud, it's the world seeing people protesting and just taking the piss, cutting through the absurdity of this nonsense. As soon as the parades and ceremonies stop it will be “why are you focusing on this now instead of the cost of living crisis/Ukraine/whatever else is in the news that week?”. There is never a right time to question the monarchy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 On WF’s, they’ve made a sensible decision and I’m pleasantly surprised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 1 hour ago, christ said: I’ve seen similar in North Korea, so unique might be pushing it. Different motivations !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Whitley mag said: Absolutely but calling him out in front of his family whilst his mother was being carted up the Royal Mile was out of order. I would say that regarding anybody aswell, there’s a time and place. #noncelivesmatter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 23 minutes ago, Thumbheed said: #noncelivesmatter Nah but showing respect for the dead and the rest of their family does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 42 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: Nah but showing respect for the dead and the rest of their family does. After stripping away all my views on politics and the monarchy, I have to say, I'm very much struggling to muster much respect for a lady who paid off her nonce sons legal fees (with other people's money) and even less so of the gentleman who's disregarded public opinion on the matter and popped Prince nonce straight back into the limelight. But anyway, I digress. Sensible decision by Wor Flags. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 There ye gan, silence observer impeccably, ‘God Save the King’ … not exactly bellowed out. Amused me when they zoomed in on the crowds - most not singing, some of those who were were clearly singing ‘God Save the Queen’ … Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 4 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: There ye gan, silence observer impeccably, ‘God Save the King’ … not exactly bellowed out. Amused me when they zoomed in on the crowds - most not singing, some of those who were were clearly singing ‘God Save the Queen’ … Couldn't work out if the Anthem music was too loud or if there was nobody signing, most round me didnt though. 99% of people stood and applauded on 70 mins though including Trippier Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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