SSFC Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Yedlin is 2nd on the team in tackles per 90, like 4th in interceptions, and overall in defensive metrics is 2nd behind Lascelles. I also believe he is on the lowest wages out of all defenders (believe half of what Gamez is paid). Should also be on atleast a couple more assists if players had any ability to finish (a couple were outlined a few posts back and a Diame sitter). He is far from the problem with this side. If I was gonna outline positional upgrades, he would be far down the list. Now if a mid table side can be had (assuming safety of course) over the next year or so...then maybe pushing him down the depth chart makes sense. RIght now he is one of the best values in the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFC Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I do agree though that he is offside far too often, especially for his position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Tackling is usually a sign of bad defending tbh. Top defenders don't need to make many tackles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppaz Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Tackling is usually a sign of bad defending tbh. Top defenders don't need to make many tackles. Eh? If you Google the definition of tackling it has the very opposite meaning of what you just said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 What is the metric for tackles, I wonder? Is it different to a 50/50 duel, for example? As surely full backs are going to have to attempt loads of them? As for Yedlin himself, I like him. Not technically amazing, positionally he can be a bit wayward and gets caught under the ball a lot, mainly from ball watching. But I don't see him as a particularly big issue right now, compared to some much worse problems. The lack of viable options at left back, Clark reverting to type, no decent goalkeeper at the club, no pace in the attacking third, Ritchie's form, lack of goals etc etc. These are all much bigger problems IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I think it's an ushering away>intercepting>tackling>slide tackling point isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppaz Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Exactly. Greg might have meant last ditch? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Exactly. Greg might have meant last ditch? Disagree. As Paolo Maldini famously said: If I have to make a tackle then I have already made a mistake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 What is the metric for tackles, I wonder? Is it different to a 50/50 duel, for example? As surely full backs are going to have to attempt loads of them? As for Yedlin himself, I like him. Not technically amazing, positionally he can be a bit wayward and gets caught under the ball a lot, mainly from ball watching. But I don't see him as a particularly big issue right now, compared to some much worse problems. The lack of viable options at left back, Clark reverting to type, no decent goalkeeper at the club, no pace in the attacking third, Ritchie's form, lack of goals etc etc. These are all much bigger problems IMO. I agree with all of that. On the final/attacking third point you made, I think we do physically speaking have pace up top, we just have no urgency mentally to make use of it. Everything is so ponderous. To be fair to Yedlin he's one of the only ones who injects a bit of urgency on the overlap, even though he cuts back too often having received the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Agree with Greg. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppaz Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 People need to understand the nature of a tackle. It's about taking the ball away with head, feet, inceptions, being in the place at the right time, whatever. It is stopping the ball being played by their own team mate reaching them full stop. There is a level of dealing with it but it is still tacking depending on heading ability, feet tackling skills, reading the game faster than the player it is being passed to, reading the game, being lucky etc. Yedlin ain't bad according to stats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 People need to understand the nature of a tackle. It's about taking the ball away with head, feet, inceptions, being in the place at the right time, whatever. It is stopping the ball being played by their own team mate reaching them full stop. There is a level of dealing with it but it is still tacking depending on heading ability, feet tackling skills, reading the game faster than the player it is being passed to, reading the game, being lucky etc. Yedlin ain't bad according to stats. You sure that's the definition of a tackle on the stats you're reading? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppaz Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 People need to understand the nature of a tackle. It's about taking the ball away with head, feet, inceptions, being in the place at the right time, whatever. It is stopping the ball being played by their own team mate reaching them full stop. There is a level of dealing with it but it is still tacking depending on heading ability, feet tackling skills, reading the game faster than the player it is being passed to, reading the game, being lucky etc. Yedlin ain't bad according to stats. You sure that's the definition of a tackle on the stats you're reading? https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/total_tackle Naughton and Merino must be shite like and that stat is official Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Yedlin is on the whole a decent fullback who is very useful at times on the counter and overlapping - his issues really are bombing forward when not needing to (Rafa is working on that it seems), his issue tracking late runners in the box (we've conceded a few because of this) and his end-product in the final 3rd. Think he can improve in every single one of those areas over time with Rafa's coaching though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 People need to understand the nature of a tackle. It's about taking the ball away with head, feet, inceptions, being in the place at the right time, whatever. It is stopping the ball being played by their own team mate reaching them full stop. There is a level of dealing with it but it is still tacking depending on heading ability, feet tackling skills, reading the game faster than the player it is being passed to, reading the game, being lucky etc. Yedlin ain't bad according to stats. That's not the definition of a tackle as taken from stat based tools and websites. Most of the things you've stated would be classified as interceptions. A tackle is defined as below: Tackles A tackle is defined as where a player connects with the ball in ground challenge where he successfully takes the ball away from the man in possession. All tackles are really a successful event. A Tackle Won is deemed to be where the tackler or one of his team-mates regains possession as a result of the challenge, or that the ball goes out of play and is "safe". A Tackle Lost is where a tackle is made but the ball goes to an opposition player. Missed Tackles This is where a player attempts to challenge for the ball and does not make it – it is calculated by adding fouls with an attempted tackle qualifier to challenge lost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 There is literally nothing else other than pace in Yedlin's game. He isn't good enough at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 He's not good enough but I thought he did okay today up against Zaha, who ran around like a man possessed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 This guy can't defend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 There is literally nothing else other than pace in Yedlin's game. He isn't good enough at all. I don't agree with at all tbh, thought he did alright against Zaha. Other then that one time he got caught. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 This guy can't defend. Can't attack either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Wasn't destroyed, but man, him being outmuscled when he had the ball was ridiculous considering the position he was in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Zaha does that to defenders most weeks tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 This lads utterly shit. But he's really fast and has really trendy hair styles.?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 I thought he was quite good today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 I thought he was quite good today At what? He didn't make a tackle as far as I can remember. He blocked one cross otherwise Zaha was given pretty much the freedom of the wing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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