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They really should have got a penalty, and Darlow's save early in the 2nd was key, made it look comfortable. No doubt though that had they gotten back into it from either of those incidents, we would have stepped it up again. Good away day once more.

 

Thought the ref had a good game, despite the pen incident (and you can understand why he didn't give it), thought he handled the affair well, since the refs in this league have been getting a lot of stick, this guy today was excellent.

There's no way that's a penalty man :lol:

 

If they would have equalised we would have just brought Atsu and Mitro on earlier and got another. Despite them creating a couple of chances, that was about as comfortable as an away win gets.

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Monk still as big of a c*** in his interview as ever.

 

What did he say?

 

Monk :lol:

 

Making out like they had a chance of getting anything from this game :lol:

 

Talking about the "moments" not going for them.

 

Called it a "scrappy game" :lol:  We bossed it.

 

Pretty much the above. Described the penalty as if Colback had picked the ball up with both hands and refused to give us any credit for the win whatsoever despite being questioned to that point.

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Monk still as big of a c*** in his interview as ever.

 

What did he say?

Said the Colback handball was a definite penalty.

 

50/50 IMO. Hard to argue with either decision, it's no surprise to hear him saying it was blatant.

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Just watched interviews at end (recorded match/5 mins or so behind) what were our fans singing as Gayle & Lascelles walked off at the end? Fans were making loads of noise for them, Gayle was covering his mouth and doing an embarrassed laugh. Something about 'our teeth'?

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Just watched interviews at end (recorded match/5 mins or so behind) what were our fans singing as Gayle & Lascelles walked off at the end? Fans were making loads of noise for them, Gayle was covering his mouth and doing an embarrassed laugh. Something about 'our teeth'?

 

he got asked about the 'incident' in the little intervew at the end, lascelles was ripping the p*ss i think

 

He scores with no teeth

He scores with no teeeeeeth

Dwight Gayle

He scores with no teeth!

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Anyone see Shelvey turn round to blast Colback for his awful ball for Gayle's goal? ?

 

Just seen that. :lol: Shouting at him showing for the ball and walking back towards half way before Green's cock up.

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There is no way that is a pen :lol:

 

Ball struck about 25mph from 1 yard away, arm in a normal position when jumping. Take his arm away and it'd of hit his torso anyway.

 

Think people need reminding the rule is that handball must be deliberate. There is no way he deliberately moved his arm to stop the ball then.

The 'natural sway of your arm' argument doesn't really work when you're diving in to block the ball. He makes a situation where his arm is out away from his body when he knows the ball is coming his way, it's his choice.

 

He didn't deliberately stop the ball with his arm, so it's not a penalty. There is no way in that short distance with the ball travelling that fast he'd have the time to think and put his arm in front of the ball (also noting his arm was stationary throughout and didn't move towards the ball).

 

There is no argument here, it's just simply not a penalty.

:lol: no argument.

 

From Graham Poll

 

Regarding handball they now ask the referee to consider the proximity of the potential offender to the person last playing the ball, the speed of the ball and importantly whether the offender's arms are in a natural or unnatural position.

 

So the question of intent is now, did the offender deliberately place his arms in an unnatural position to increase the chances of the ball hitting him?

 

If the answer to that is yes then it is correct to penalise that player even though it used to be argued that was ball to hand.

 

The rules are nowhere near as simple as you're making out like, otherwise there would literally never be a penalty given for handball.

 

From the FA's website: http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct#WQQIIAOeJPSscHJY.99

 

Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the ball with the hand or arm. It was not deliberate.

 

The following must be considered:

- The movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand) There was absolutely zero movement of the hand towards the ball

- The distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball) There was about 2 yards between Colback and the ball when it was struck

- The position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an infringement Which means the position of Colback's arm is irrelevant, especially when it is in a natural position when jumping to challenge

- Touching the ball with an object held in the hand (clothing, shinguard, etc.) is an infringement Doesn't apply in this situation

- Hitting the ball with a thrown object (boot, shinguard, etc.) is an infringement Doesn't apply in this situation

 

Because "refs have given them before" doesn't make it a penalty, or mean it should even be discussed as one. Previous bad calls do not set a precedent to start giving penalties. The laws of the game in this situation are pretty clear, there is absolutely no reason to give a penalty in that situation.

 

It's not even close to being a penalty.

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Gayle's celebrations were a bit of a wind up for the Leeds fans. Don't know if they were taunting him but the way he took the piss you can imagine a few of them would love to have smashed his teeth in.

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For the 2nd goal, they showed an incorrect offside line from the last defender on TV and said Gayle's leg was slightly ahead.

 

Not sure how this was even an debate, you cant be offside when you're behind the ball when its played and Gayle was yards onside.

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