The Prophet Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Cracking signing for Liverpool that would be, think he suits Klopps style. Wonder what price he goes for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Cracking signing for Liverpool that would be, think he suits Klopps style. Wonder what price he goes for. Aye feels like he'd fight the high intensity style of Liverpool or ourselves like a glove. It'll be a few years before we have Liverpool's pulling power in terms of fees and regular European football though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Wonder where that leaves Caicedo ? I know Brighton are excellent at replacing players, but to sell 2 of their best players in one window would be risky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 7 hours ago, Ace said: Im not a great lover of PSG but what would you think of a player who signed for us on astronomical wages with a huge reputation and was more interested in international football and his outside projects than putting the effort in for the team? Also give me your opinion of Michael Owen He’s literally got 15 goals and 15 assists for them. How is that not “putting in effort “ for the team? Michael Owen isn’t even on the same planet as Messi. It’s obvious to anyone with a brain they’ve suspended him out of pettiness as he wants to leave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Is tapping up players no longer a thing now? Saw a report recently that Arteta has already spoken to Declan Rice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 3 hours ago, GeordieDazzler said: They are past caring about the league and his stats are immaterial to their point. They would take less success (I mean they would probably still win the league) in order to see more French and Parisian players rather than superstars who don’t care. It’s a bit like when Owen signed for us, he didn’t really want to but he pretty much had no other options. Paris produces more world class talent than any other city. They could easily change tact and still compete. Although like a lot of modern mega clubs there is a tension between what the local match going fans want and what the international fans want I suppose. Comparing Messi and Owen? You think other clubs didn’t want Messi? He’s likely to win the Ballon D’or this year ffs. Regardless of that, these are fully grown men turning up at players homes, it’s beyond pathetic. If they hate the players so much protest they ownership. What has Paris producing world class talent have to do with Messi? Or Neymar? Or Verratti. The latter of which has been their best player for years. And why is Mbappe off the hook, because he’s local? He absolutely fleeced them on his deal. I don’t know where this narrative is coming from, they are whinging because of their perceived lack of success in the champions league. Terrible small time club, with absolutely awful support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Manxst said: Messi has 31 goals and 34 assists in 71 games for them, and they won the league last year. If that’s not effort, then fuck knows. Fucking wish we had a player on those stats “not putting effort in”. I swear people see Messi walking on a pitch and conflate it with a lack of effort Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Only 2 or 3 clubs could afford Messi. Messi embodies everything that is wrong about PSG. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Brighton's scouting is obviously brilliant but I wonder if there'll come a time where they do a Leicester or Southampton and their well of talent will dry up Really interesting well run club mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Only 2 or 3 clubs could afford Messi. Messi embodies everything that is wrong about PSG. What’s wrong with PSG can’t be delineated into one player. They don’t have a cohesive transfer policy or really any team building. Tuchel, Carlo, Poch, Emery, all “failed” there. All of them bar Poch have won European trophies. Both Neymar and Messi have both produced at a high level for them. But it depends on your definition of failure, City haven’t won a champions league since their takeover, just like PSG. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 It's a bit of a myth that Messi hasn't tried for PSG, the issue is that their defense and midfield is awful. Yeah he hasn't reached the heights of Barca, but that front 3 individually isn't PSG's problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Any other player in world football with those stats would be heralded as God. It’s crazy. There’s not a lot more else he can do, Haaland has beaten every record going and City have been second most of the season. It’s not one player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, Sempiternal said: What’s wrong with PSG can’t be delineated into one player. They don’t have a cohesive transfer policy or really any team building. Tuchel, Carlo, Poch, Emery, all “failed” there. All of them bar Poch have won European trophies. Both Neymar and Messi have both produced at a high level for them. But it depends on your definition of failure, City haven’t won a champions league since their takeover, just like PSG. He's a player brought in more for media and commercial appeal than to fit the squad. He's only there for the money. He has shown contept for the club. He's one of many luxury player superstars who does nothing off the ball. He's everything wrong with the PSG mindset. And yes it comes from the clubs leadership. No manager serious about performing would want this version of Messi, Neymar & Mbappe in the same XI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 I remember Michael Owen dickriders talking about 30 goals in 80 appearances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 15 hours ago, Ace said: Messi has been an absolute shit bag with all this at PSG and yet he doesn’t seem to get criticised. Like with the tax evasion he’s Teflon, Imagine the shit Cristiano would get if he went on like Messi did Ronaldo also got done for tax evasion but I mostly hear it used as a stick to beat Messi with Then again Ronaldo has done far worse than that so I guess tax evasion is mild in comparison Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: He's a player brought in more for media and commercial appeal than to fit the squad. He's only there for the money. He has shown contept for the club. He's one of many luxury player superstars who does nothing off the ball. He's everything wrong with the PSG mindset. And yes it comes from the clubs leadership. No manager serious about performing would want this version of Messi, Neymar & Mbappe in the same XI. Contempt in what way? The suspension is absolutely PSG PR because he’s not renewing his deal. I’m pretty sure most managers would want that actually. All three of them are their highest performers. Their problems lie elsewhere. Every single footballer is at a club for money, it’s sad but that’s life I’m afraid. As for being a “luxury”’ player, it worked out pretty well for Argentina. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said: Wonder where that leaves Caicedo ? I know Brighton are excellent at replacing players, but to sell 2 of their best players in one window would be risky. Presumably at Brighton for another year with them being in Europe also it’s looking. Like you say it be very risky selling both. Would imagine the sharks are circling around their young forward and winger too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 International football is diferent. Argentina had 1 luxury player. PSG have 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I remember Michael Owen dickriders talking about 30 goals in 80 appearances. The fact people are even bringing up Michael Owen in this discussion should be bannable. It’s absurd. I absolutely hate the guy, but even so it was not his fault we were a bad team. Nolan was disgraceful, Barton too, and Duff. He turned it round but Colo was absolutely awful that season as well. We were a terrible side. We would have went down with or without him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Calling him lazy, is that lazy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 33 minutes ago, joeyt said: Brighton's scouting is obviously brilliant but I wonder if there'll come a time where they do a Leicester or Southampton and their well of talent will dry up Really interesting well run club mind I don’t think so. Unless the owner sells up. I’m sure you’re aware Brighton have a top secret analytics database which is how they’re able to keep signing class players at such a cheap price. Think Brentford are run in a similar fashion. Will be interesting to see how far they can go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: International football is diferent. Argentina had 1 luxury player. PSG have 3. It’s ostensibly the same game. PSG’s issues are not in their attacking play. They’ll win the league again, as always. The fans can complain get another manager sacked and restart the process all over again. They went out in the QFs under Carlo, with Ibra probably playing his best football. It’s easy to pin it on Neymar/Mbappe/Messi/Veratti. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sempiternal said: It’s ostensibly the same game. PSG’s issues are not in their attacking play. They’ll win the league again, as always. The fans can complain get another manager sacked and restart the process all over again. They went out in the QFs under Carlo, with Ibra probably playing his best football. It’s easy to pin it on Neymar/Mbappe/Messi/Veratti. The way in which they collapsed affer their attackers have them a 2-0 agg lead vs Real can't be pinned on the attackers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Manxst said: Messi has 31 goals and 34 assists in 71 games for them, and they won the league last year. If that’s not effort, then fuck knows. Michael Owen had a decent record for us and he wasn’t playing for a team who were infinitely better than 95% of their opponents Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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