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Sibierski

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For the FFP, I do think we banked on bringing in around an extra £10m+ from going further in Europe, and going out altogether was a disaster.

 

Then unable to move on anyone in January because we were fisted with injuries so rolled the dice more on qualifying for Europe, which then backfired.

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27 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

Mbemba transfer listed by Marseille. BHH.

Got me thinking we have signed some cracking players but at the wrong time. Imagine cabaye, Ben Arfa, Ba, Merino, Winijaldum, Toney, Thauvin to name a few all in the current squad 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, gdm said:

Got me thinking we have signed some cracking players but at the wrong time. Imagine cabaye, Ben Arfa, Ba, Merino, Winijaldum, Toney, Thauvin to name a few all in the current squad 

 

 

 

Ben Arfa would be too lazy for Howe.

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43 minutes ago, gdm said:

Got me thinking we have signed some cracking players but at the wrong time. Imagine cabaye, Ben Arfa, Ba, Merino, Winijaldum, Toney, Thauvin to name a few all in the current squad 

 

 

 


Imagine a Howe improved Moussa Sissoko next to Joelinton with Bruno in between. 

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5 hours ago, brummie said:

The reason we are managing to live within the fiscal controls is because we've employed people behind the scenes who absolutely know exactly what they are doing.

 

Monchi is one of the best in Europe at this. Not infallible, nobody is, but they have put a triangle of Emery, Monchi and Vidagany to work together as the football brains of the club - they're very tight knit, both with each other and also with Sawiris, the most involved of our two owners.

 

Under Lerner or - shudder - Tony Xia, we'd have walked straight off a cliff with PSR rules, they were clueless, but this lot absolutely know what they are doing.

 

re buying back young players, we've only actually done that with Philogene. With Cameron Archer, that article in the Telegraph is wrong, we sold him but with a clause they pay 9m up front, but if they get relegated they sent him back gratis and didn't have to pay the rest. We then negotiated his salary with his agent should he come back to us, which is what has happened - all set up to cover every eventuality. So we've trousered 9m for a one season loan. But it wasn't us triggering the move, it was all in his contract and automatic if they went down.

 

People go on about our spending but usually overlook things like us raising lots of money on homegrown players. 100m Grealish, 20m Chukwemeka, 19m Kellyman, 14m Aaron Ramsey, 9m Iroegbunam in the last few years. Grealish was a big hole to fill, yes, but Iroegbunam and Kellyman was almost 30m for two players who had played a couple of hours first team football between them.

 

We've also done a deal to move Luiz on (prob the least impactful of all the valuable players if we had to sell one of them) for a decent chunk of money PLUS two players in positions where we could do with options.

 

We've just sold Diaby (inconsistent all season) and probably Duran too. Those three players will fetch close to 110 million (plus Iling Jr and Barrenechea coming to us) in total. Again, Duran a player who is clearly a nutter, but a 25m profit in 12 months.

 

Annoys me reading amateur accountants on twitter going on about us risklng breaking the rules when all they've done is point at Onana and say "how come they can afford him?" - because we also sell a lot of players too.

 

We've understood that no matter how much money you have, there are rules to live within, and you have to horse trade to get the best you can for the squad within the existing rules.

 

 

 


Wasn’t the Luiz deal done before July 1st because you were at risk of breaking FFP rules? If those two Juventus players end up being useful for Emery then it’s probably a really good deal but how much do you actually expect them to feature this season?

 

Also as others have mentioned the Diaby sale was probably pretty lucky in the sense that nobody other than the Saudi’s would have paid anywhere near that fee, not some genius business from Monchi.

 

And all these great sales are well and good but what do you think about the re-investment thus far? Have Villa actually improved their first team much at all?

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2 hours ago, Fak said:


Imagine a Howe improved Moussa Sissoko next to Joelinton with Bruno in between. 

 

I know Sissoko didn't help himself sometimes but it's a travesty that we barely played him in his best position and instead put him out wide. He had all the tools to be on par with Joelinton in one of the wide CM roles. 

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18 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

I confirm, #Tottenham is interested in Federico #Chiesa , they are ready to put a figure of around 30 million on the table € , maybe even something more! [Gianni Balzarini]

 

If Spurs end up with a front three of Son, Toney and Chiesa and get some luck with injuries, they could have a really good season.

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17 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Sounds like they might be trying to offload Victor Roque to Saudi to activate the latest economic lever.

Wouldn’t mind Vitor Roque as the third striker I’m sure Howe could develop him

 

 

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1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

Is Chiesa noticeably better than Johnson or Kulu at the moment? 

 

More pace and directness than Kulu and more clinical than Johnson IMO.

 

Kulusevski is being made available this summer it seems.

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9 hours ago, KaKa said:

 

If Spurs end up with a front three of Son, Toney and Chiesa and get some luck with injuries, they could have a really good season.

 

I think Son's legs have gone and isn't the same player he once was 

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57 minutes ago, joeyt said:

 

I think Son's legs have gone and isn't the same player he once was 

Spot on.

 

He played reasonably well as a CF at the beginning of last season, but form tailed off significantly. Certainly doesn't have the pace as a LW anymore 

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