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29 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

Remember when they got totally destroyed by City in the Champions League and then lost to Barca in the league? Then next season they won the league *and* the Champions League! Crazy how things change, huh?


League it clicked, UCL was very fortunate and typical Madrid weird jinx they have on it. 
 

Their squad needs investment, especially in defence where it’s aging and many injuries. Probably sell on of their attackers (Guler or Rodrygo) to fund the spend.

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56 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

Huh? According to data, Trent has made four errors leading to a goal in his entire Premier league career.  VVD has 6. Go figure.

 

No idea what's classed as an 'error' but by far his biggest weakness is his lack of defensive awareness and often times just completely switching off. 

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45 minutes ago, SEMTEX said:

As much as he's the one-man team, moving him (and everyone else) on is probably better for their long-term success, therefore I'd much rather he stayed.

Agreed, although given their recent record in the transfer market, selling him and reinvesting in 3 or 4 expensive flops would be fantastic.

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9 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

Think Trent is a major issue in Europe and at the highest level in general. 
 

He’s a unique profile and talent. 

 

A couple of thoughts from an LFC fan, if you give a damn, that is :)

 

Trent might lack defensive nous, but he is a unique talent, as TCD posts above. Salah and TAA were an attacking force to reckon with. With fully red-tinted glasses on, I believe they were on par with any PL right-hand side from an attacking perspective. At least I don't remember any other pair doing it day in and day out consistently for six to eight years. So, he will be a massive loss for us, no doubt about it. The fact that he was a local boy who came through the academy stings a bit more. 

 

I believe he will do very well in La Liga. He will be pinging balls to Mbappe, Vini, and Bellingham from the deep and racking up assists against most teams. At the highest level, say against Barcelona or in the CL against Bayern and PSG, I wonder how they will fare with four defensively weak players—Mbappe, Vini, Bellingham, and TAA. Most modern great teams accommodate a maximum of one. Historically, Madrid has been kind to attacking fullbacks who are defensively not the strongest - Carlos, Marcelo. We will see how TAA measures up against those. 

 

The one positive thing is that FSG has assembled the old data team—Edwards, Graham, Ward—and added Hughes. Slot has shown himself to be a tactically solid and adaptable coach. This is a big loss for us, but I think we have the right background team to find solutions. 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, rgk_lfc said:

 

A couple of thoughts from an LFC fan, if you give a damn, that is :)

 

Trent might lack defensive nous, but he is a unique talent, as TCD posts above. Salah and TAA were an attacking force to reckon with. With fully red-tinted glasses on, I believe they were on par with any PL right-hand side from an attacking perspective. At least I don't remember any other pair doing it day in and day out consistently for six to eight years. So, he will be a massive loss for us, no doubt about it. The fact that he was a local boy who came through the academy stings a bit more. 

 

I believe he will do very well in La Liga. He will be pinging balls to Mbappe, Vini, and Bellingham from the deep and racking up assists against most teams. At the highest level, say against Barcelona or in the CL against Bayern and PSG, I wonder how they will fare with four defensively weak players—Mbappe, Vini, Bellingham, and TAA. Most modern great teams accommodate a maximum of one. Historically, Madrid has been kind to attacking fullbacks who are defensively not the strongest - Carlos, Marcelo. We will see how TAA measures up against those. 

 

The one positive thing is that FSG has assembled the old data team—Edwards, Graham, Ward—and added Hughes. Slot has shown himself to be a tactically solid and adaptable coach. This is a big loss for us, but I think we have the right background team to find solutions. 

 

 

 

Very similar to when we lost Mark Stimpson

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6 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

He’s been a bit shit this year hasn’t he?

Think "bit shit" is wild. Not scored as many goals as last year, but when he plays well, Chelsea win. When he's off it (like recent weeks before his and their upturn in form), they don't do as well. Imperative we keep him quiet this weekend or just smash him into the stands. Father in law is Chelsea season ticket holder so I'm getting most of this from him

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2 minutes ago, SiLvOR said:

Think "bit shit" is wild. Not scored as many goals as last year, but when he plays well, Chelsea win. When he's off it (like recent weeks before his and their upturn in form), they don't do as well. Imperative we keep him quiet this weekend or just smash him into the stands. Father in law is Chelsea season ticket holder so I'm getting most of this from him

Yeah, that was lazy from me. However, there’s absolutely no way they’ve been a one man team this season, certainly when comparing them to man united. Last season maybe.

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1 minute ago, Shearergol said:

Yeah, that was lazy from me. However, there’s absolutely no way they’ve been a one man team this season, certainly when comparing them to man united. Last season maybe.

I disagree from an attacking sense, don't see any of their players stepping up or controlling games. But, saying that, I think Lavia has actually been one of the main reasons they look more solid in the middle. Chatting shit ain't I 

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Just now, SiLvOR said:

I disagree from an attacking sense, don't see any of their players stepping up or controlling games. But, saying that, I think Lavia has actually been one of the main reasons they look more solid in the middle. Chatting shit ain't I 

I suspect a lot of other clubs fans would quite quickly say we’re a bit of a one man team.

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9 hours ago, Sibierski said:

As for being an issue in Europe, Liverpool have won the thing and got to more finals with him as their RB. He’s not an issue. People will go “Yea, but Vini destroyed him”, so what? One game, it can happen if a top attacking player is on it. Salah on it in final, they maybe win 2-1 and no-one remembers Vini game.

Most recent winning CL fullbacks have been lockdown defenders.  DC at Madrid obviously and the CBs Pep has been playing at FB. Prior to that Chelsea had 2 of the better fullbacks win it.  
 

 

This season Barcelona aside the 3 other semi finalists have lockdown fullbacks. 
 

To win the champions league you need fullbacks to be able to shut out Mbappe, Vini, Kvara, Doue, Lamal, Raphinha, Saka etc. level players. 
 

The Madrid CL winning sides have been able to dig deep to win football matches in the CL.  Can Trent do that?

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