Sibierski Posted Tuesday at 10:25 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:25 29 minutes ago, tarie4 said: Remember when they got totally destroyed by City in the Champions League and then lost to Barca in the league? Then next season they won the league *and* the Champions League! Crazy how things change, huh? League it clicked, UCL was very fortunate and typical Madrid weird jinx they have on it. Their squad needs investment, especially in defence where it’s aging and many injuries. Probably sell on of their attackers (Guler or Rodrygo) to fund the spend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted Tuesday at 11:10 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:10 56 minutes ago, tarie4 said: Huh? According to data, Trent has made four errors leading to a goal in his entire Premier league career. VVD has 6. Go figure. No idea what's classed as an 'error' but by far his biggest weakness is his lack of defensive awareness and often times just completely switching off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Tuesday at 11:19 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:19 Yeah, I don't think standing in the wrong place or not making a recovery run is something that be captured in stats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted Tuesday at 16:36 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:36 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo2 Posted Tuesday at 17:06 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:06 Yes please. Struggle to think of a more "one man team" in the league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted Tuesday at 17:08 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:08 Would have probably been able to rinse them for £100 million for him. Would be funny if they have to sell for £60 million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Tuesday at 17:32 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:32 They'd be knocking around the relegation battle without him. Maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted Tuesday at 17:46 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:46 As much as he's the one-man team, moving him (and everyone else) on is probably better for their long-term success, therefore I'd much rather he stayed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted Tuesday at 18:33 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:33 45 minutes ago, SEMTEX said: As much as he's the one-man team, moving him (and everyone else) on is probably better for their long-term success, therefore I'd much rather he stayed. Agreed, although given their recent record in the transfer market, selling him and reinvesting in 3 or 4 expensive flops would be fantastic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgk_lfc Posted Tuesday at 18:56 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:56 9 hours ago, The College Dropout said: Think Trent is a major issue in Europe and at the highest level in general. He’s a unique profile and talent. A couple of thoughts from an LFC fan, if you give a damn, that is Trent might lack defensive nous, but he is a unique talent, as TCD posts above. Salah and TAA were an attacking force to reckon with. With fully red-tinted glasses on, I believe they were on par with any PL right-hand side from an attacking perspective. At least I don't remember any other pair doing it day in and day out consistently for six to eight years. So, he will be a massive loss for us, no doubt about it. The fact that he was a local boy who came through the academy stings a bit more. I believe he will do very well in La Liga. He will be pinging balls to Mbappe, Vini, and Bellingham from the deep and racking up assists against most teams. At the highest level, say against Barcelona or in the CL against Bayern and PSG, I wonder how they will fare with four defensively weak players—Mbappe, Vini, Bellingham, and TAA. Most modern great teams accommodate a maximum of one. Historically, Madrid has been kind to attacking fullbacks who are defensively not the strongest - Carlos, Marcelo. We will see how TAA measures up against those. The one positive thing is that FSG has assembled the old data team—Edwards, Graham, Ward—and added Hughes. Slot has shown himself to be a tactically solid and adaptable coach. This is a big loss for us, but I think we have the right background team to find solutions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted Tuesday at 19:01 Share Posted Tuesday at 19:01 4 minutes ago, rgk_lfc said: A couple of thoughts from an LFC fan, if you give a damn, that is Trent might lack defensive nous, but he is a unique talent, as TCD posts above. Salah and TAA were an attacking force to reckon with. With fully red-tinted glasses on, I believe they were on par with any PL right-hand side from an attacking perspective. At least I don't remember any other pair doing it day in and day out consistently for six to eight years. So, he will be a massive loss for us, no doubt about it. The fact that he was a local boy who came through the academy stings a bit more. I believe he will do very well in La Liga. He will be pinging balls to Mbappe, Vini, and Bellingham from the deep and racking up assists against most teams. At the highest level, say against Barcelona or in the CL against Bayern and PSG, I wonder how they will fare with four defensively weak players—Mbappe, Vini, Bellingham, and TAA. Most modern great teams accommodate a maximum of one. Historically, Madrid has been kind to attacking fullbacks who are defensively not the strongest - Carlos, Marcelo. We will see how TAA measures up against those. The one positive thing is that FSG has assembled the old data team—Edwards, Graham, Ward—and added Hughes. Slot has shown himself to be a tactically solid and adaptable coach. This is a big loss for us, but I think we have the right background team to find solutions. Very similar to when we lost Mark Stimpson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted Tuesday at 19:13 Share Posted Tuesday at 19:13 2 hours ago, Ronson333 said: Sure thing Ben. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted Tuesday at 19:19 Share Posted Tuesday at 19:19 2 hours ago, Robbo2 said: Yes please. Struggle to think of a more "one man team" in the league I raise you Chelsea and Cole Palmer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted Tuesday at 19:20 Share Posted Tuesday at 19:20 1 minute ago, SiLvOR said: I raise you Chelsea and Cole Palmer He’s been a bit shit this year hasn’t he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted Tuesday at 19:28 Share Posted Tuesday at 19:28 6 minutes ago, Shearergol said: He’s been a bit shit this year hasn’t he? Think "bit shit" is wild. Not scored as many goals as last year, but when he plays well, Chelsea win. When he's off it (like recent weeks before his and their upturn in form), they don't do as well. Imperative we keep him quiet this weekend or just smash him into the stands. Father in law is Chelsea season ticket holder so I'm getting most of this from him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted Tuesday at 19:32 Share Posted Tuesday at 19:32 2 minutes ago, SiLvOR said: Think "bit shit" is wild. Not scored as many goals as last year, but when he plays well, Chelsea win. When he's off it (like recent weeks before his and their upturn in form), they don't do as well. Imperative we keep him quiet this weekend or just smash him into the stands. Father in law is Chelsea season ticket holder so I'm getting most of this from him Yeah, that was lazy from me. However, there’s absolutely no way they’ve been a one man team this season, certainly when comparing them to man united. Last season maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted Tuesday at 19:39 Share Posted Tuesday at 19:39 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: Yeah, that was lazy from me. However, there’s absolutely no way they’ve been a one man team this season, certainly when comparing them to man united. Last season maybe. I disagree from an attacking sense, don't see any of their players stepping up or controlling games. But, saying that, I think Lavia has actually been one of the main reasons they look more solid in the middle. Chatting shit ain't I Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted Tuesday at 19:40 Share Posted Tuesday at 19:40 Just now, SiLvOR said: I disagree from an attacking sense, don't see any of their players stepping up or controlling games. But, saying that, I think Lavia has actually been one of the main reasons they look more solid in the middle. Chatting shit ain't I I suspect a lot of other clubs fans would quite quickly say we’re a bit of a one man team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted Tuesday at 19:50 Share Posted Tuesday at 19:50 9 hours ago, Sibierski said: As for being an issue in Europe, Liverpool have won the thing and got to more finals with him as their RB. He’s not an issue. People will go “Yea, but Vini destroyed him”, so what? One game, it can happen if a top attacking player is on it. Salah on it in final, they maybe win 2-1 and no-one remembers Vini game. Most recent winning CL fullbacks have been lockdown defenders. DC at Madrid obviously and the CBs Pep has been playing at FB. Prior to that Chelsea had 2 of the better fullbacks win it. This season Barcelona aside the 3 other semi finalists have lockdown fullbacks. To win the champions league you need fullbacks to be able to shut out Mbappe, Vini, Kvara, Doue, Lamal, Raphinha, Saka etc. level players. The Madrid CL winning sides have been able to dig deep to win football matches in the CL. Can Trent do that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teslact Posted Tuesday at 22:52 Share Posted Tuesday at 22:52 3 hours ago, The College Dropout said: To win the champions league you need fullbacks to be able to shut out Mbappe, Vini, Kvara, Doue, Lamal, Raphinha, Saka etc. level players. So what you're saying is we need to lock Tino down to a longer contact? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KaKa Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago They're going to sell Watkins I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 11 minutes ago, KaKa said: They're going to sell Watkins I think. If I were Villa, selling Watkins for £60m+ and getting Delap for £30m would be a good way to alleviate some PSR pressure and get younger / still talented striker in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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