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The fee for Duran is irresistible in a PSR world or otherwise. Hopefully Osula knocks on a couple more worldies between now and the end of the season and we can spend in the summer too.

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8 minutes ago, Pablo123 said:

Great business for Villa, especially if they could get someone like David on a free.

We need David more than them man. 

Sick of Villa getting good free transfers every summer like Kamara and Tielemans while we get Kelly and rejected by Tosin

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Villas owners are way more proactive than ours when it comes to navigating PSR. Yes I'd say we have made the better signings so far in Isak, Bruno, Tonali etc. But I think if Villa keep doing what they are doing they will get it right eventually. They have racked in big fees for players recently and it will allow them to go for better players in the long term. 

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10 minutes ago, alexf said:

Villas owners are way more proactive than ours when it comes to navigating PSR. Yes I'd say we have made the better signings so far in Isak, Bruno, Tonali etc. But I think if Villa keep doing what they are doing they will get it right eventually. They have racked in big fees for players recently and it will allow them to go for better players in the long term. 

Yeah I said previously I do worry about them getting all this potential FFP headroom, in the sense that they match our ambition and are run well. 

 

If Villa or us had the revenue if Spurs, I'd trust us/them to be a top 4 regular in a few years 

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12 minutes ago, alexf said:

Villas owners are way more proactive than ours when it comes to navigating PSR. Yes I'd say we have made the better signings so far in Isak, Bruno, Tonali etc. But I think if Villa keep doing what they are doing they will get it right eventually. They have racked in big fees for players recently and it will allow them to go for better players in the long term. 


What signings though have they made recently for big funds that have kicked them on? Some will stick, but with Monchi, they will waste a LOT because that’s who he is.

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8 minutes ago, Sibierski said:


What signings though have they made recently for big funds that have kicked them on? Some will stick, but with Monchi, they will waste a LOT because that’s who he is.

Yeah i agree in the main, I didn't say they have made any stand out signings like we have. Maybe Morgan Rogers in time looks to have alot of potential. So I think we have the better individuals but I think they have more depth across the squad.

 

As i said they have navigated PSR better in terms of selling academy players and squad players they don't want for decent fees and also stocking the squad with 2 players in each position. The individual quality in the first 11 I believe is slightly less than ours but their second string is stronger.  The * here though is they did start from a far healthier position in terms of having saleable assets in the first place and also having £100m of Grealish profit.

 

I just feel as they build, they are slowly increasing their pot of money each time and therefore eventually they might land on a Isak level signing and kick them on to another level. 

 

I think it's clear in current circumstances they are our closest equal. Chelsea/Man city are in a different stratosphere financially and I'd say the likes of Bournemouth/Fulham etc are slightly behind us and villa. 

 

 

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Our academy has for a long time been shit, Villa, Chelsea & Arsenal all the clubs who are doing 'well' with PSR don't have that issue. That for me is the single biggest difference.

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2 minutes ago, Choppy Chop Chop said:

If Watkins goes to Arsenal is he cup tied for next Tuesday 

Yes, needed to have been signed before the first leg. That’s regardless of whether he’s already played for Villa too.

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52 minutes ago, alexf said:

Villas owners are way more proactive than ours when it comes to navigating PSR. Yes I'd say we have made the better signings so far in Isak, Bruno, Tonali etc. But I think if Villa keep doing what they are doing they will get it right eventually. They have racked in big fees for players recently and it will allow them to go for better players in the long term. 

 

They navigate it differently to us. More wheeling and dealing. Selling and buying. Is it better long term? I don't know - it's a different way of doing things. They had more sellable assets to start with and a better academy so it gives them more wiggle room to move.

 

We have tended to sit on our hands more. Sign/keep our star players, rely on Eddie to coach the limited players to bigger heights, far less player turnover overall. But equally we have got a lot less room to move due to the squad and academy the owners inherited. We've resisted the big sale to shuffle things up. Perhaps we won't be able to do that forever.

 

The summer will be interesting. I think we're only 2-3 players off a very strong first XI, and we can recruit younger and cheaper profiles to build out the squad that can be the Durans of the future potentially. 

 

 

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55 minutes ago, Sibierski said:


What signings though have they made recently for big funds that have kicked them on? Some will stick, but with Monchi, they will waste a LOT because that’s who he is.

I'm sure they've signed about 5 left backs since Emery has been there. He does seem a bit hitty miss in the transfer market

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2 hours ago, KDT said:

Our academy has for a long time been shit, Villa, Chelsea & Arsenal all the clubs who are doing 'well' with PSR don't have that issue. That for me is the single biggest difference.

 

Yes. I reckon I've said this a dozen times on here, it makes a huge difference.

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3 hours ago, KaKa said:

 

Don't think they trust him.

 

From what Brummie has shared seems a bit of a loose cannon.

 

You can't rely on Duran - every window he would be there with his agent in his ear over money. McGinn has hinted that he's a disruptive influence behind the scenes, and he clearly does not follow instructions on the pitch, which is the biggest no-no there is with Emery.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Pablo123 said:

I'm sure they've signed about 5 left backs since Emery has been there. He does seem a bit hitty miss in the transfer market

 

Maatsen and Moreno, and he moved Moreno on when, after his injury, he'd lost his pace. 

 

We have two good left backs. The likes of us and you, and our fans, are so used to not thinking this way, but we need to get past the idea of a starting XI and then a supporting cast. Emery wants two good options in every position, and that is what the likes of us, and you, are going to need to make the next step forward.

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FWIW i reckon we'll go for Cunha at Wolves. Only they're going to be twats over it because this is one of those one-way local rivalries we have in the west midlands and they won't want to sell to us.

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11 minutes ago, brummie said:

 

Maatsen and Moreno, and he moved Moreno on when, after his injury, he'd lost his pace. 

 

We have two good left backs. The likes of us and you, and our fans, are so used to not thinking this way, but we need to get past the idea of a starting XI and then a supporting cast. Emery wants two good options in every position, and that is what the likes of us, and you, are going to need to make the next step forward.

I thought he'd signed Digne and someone from Levante? It's not often I'm right, and I'm wrong again :lol:

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10 minutes ago, brummie said:

FWIW i reckon we'll go for Cunha at Wolves. Only they're going to be twats over it because this is one of those one-way local rivalries we have in the west midlands and they won't want to sell to us.

Can hardly blame them if they do, why would they sell their best player just before the deadline when they are in the bottom 3?

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8 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Can hardly blame them if they do, why would they sell their best player just before the deadline when they are in the bottom 3?

Yeah, just like we are twats over Isak and Villa over Watkins to Arsenal.   We are so small time :D

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22 minutes ago, brummie said:

 

You can't rely on Duran - every window he would be there with his agent in his ear over money. McGinn has hinted that he's a disruptive influence behind the scenes, and he clearly does not follow instructions on the pitch, which is the biggest no-no there is with Emery.

 

 


One of the things that stood out on the NUFC match cam when he got sent off was not a single teammate looked surprised that he had done something stupid. Regardless if you think he meant to stamp on him the fact none of them seemed shocked speaks volumes. 

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1 hour ago, brummie said:

FWIW i reckon we'll go for Cunha at Wolves. Only they're going to be twats over it because this is one of those one-way local rivalries we have in the west midlands and they won't want to sell to us.

Ferguson from Brighton?

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