HawK Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Cronky do you let him rest his gut on your back like a good boy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 It was widely reported that Rafa was offered £50M per season plus player sales for the next 2 seasons if he stayed: “Rafael Benitez will reportedly be given more than £100million to spend over the next two seasons at Newcastle United if he decides to stay. Benitez’s contract expires at the end of the season and he has yet to commit his future to the club.” was reported in May. I don’t believe that either side has been completely open about what happened. I still believe that the club expected Rafa to compromise and stay, was the compromise the training ground and less control on some transfers, who knows? The club made broken promises to Rafa and some or all of these contributed to him leaving. Rafa has indicated that he had decided to leave in May but couldn’t say anything, clearly the Chinese knew as he was on the plane over a couple of days after it was announced he was to leave. There were rumours of an email exchange over a weekend after which the club announced he’d be leaving. I’ve no doubt Rafa left out of frustration and he’d come to a point where he’d had enough, nobody can criticise him on those grounds and he has the support of the fans on that. Rafa is meticulous in everything he does, I’d love to know the full true story. We’re getting the glossy versions from both sides. I think it’s safe to believe that a 2 year offer had been on the table for quite a while and it all turned to shit over the details. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Cronky do you let him rest his gut on your back like a good boy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I believe Rafa entirely. Ashley’s an absolute shyster who will try any trick in the book to fuck other people over. Rafa is a gent who is absolutely obsessed with football and getting the absolute best results for whichever team he works for. He deserves to be paid handsomely for being an incredible ambassador, professional and brilliant manager. Ashley deserves to have his head shoved in a toilet filled with shit on an hourly basis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Cronky man, that's a helluva lot of speculation in favor of the people who are known to lie and deceive the fans. You can't just make up an imaginary contract offer to argue against what Rafa has said. I didn't make that up myself. In that interview with the Daily Mail, Ashley said that the Rafa camp were asking for a one year extension, but he wanted to sign Rafa long-term. Presumably the one year extension was to give Rafa time to see what was happening with a takeover. Oh sweet baby jesus The Club admitted to the Tribunal that it repeatedly and intentionally misled the press, public and the fans of Newcastle United. Gutierrez was found to be a "credible and convincing witness". Managing director Charnley's evidence was described as "evasive and lacking in credibility". A decade later : Hey guys' date=' Mike Ashley said Rafa eats babies in an interview, sure glad we got rid of that monster - isn't Mike swell - we should be thankful for everything he has done for us, so much better than those dark days of Keegan and Robson[/quote'] This tribunal statement over the issue of whether Keegan had control of transfers does tend to get trotted out whenever it's convenient to disbelieve absolutely anything that Ashley says. You have to look at each situation as it comes. What has Ashley ever said or done that make him a reliable source? Genuine question bytheway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 It’s quite simple, in Ashley you have someone who sits down with the players and tells them he will give them all a bonus if we don’t go down. When they deliver their end of the deal, he does the opposite. This is the same man who in the 3 years Rafa was here, you could count the times he looked him in the eye face to face on one hand. This is the same man who allowed a manager of Rafa’s calibre to walk and replaced him with Steve Bruce of all people. This is a man who doesn’t care about the club at any level other than the TV money. Rafa on the other hand cared about everything and cared so much, he would rather walk away than be a co-conspirator and accomplice in stripping an institution of all its assets, of its dignity, history, traditions, sense of community, pride, duty to the sport, the game and above all else to the true shareholders and owners, the people of Newcastle and fans the world over whose money, time, emotions and bond is being bled dry. Rafa owes us nothing nor the club, we owe him a lot and Ashley owes him even more for what he’s done for him. His loyalty and duty of care come free, at no extra cost, something the club gets for free at no extra cost too from our loyalty and duty of care which we don’t need to buy a season ticket or a replica shirt in exchange for. Rafa cared more for the club than all those so-called Geordies or supporters who were there at the weekend, each paying customer an accomplice and co-conspirator of Ashley, thousands of replica Bishops, Barnes’, Charnleys, fascist stewards confiscating Sack Pardew/Ashley Out material, the kind of people Ashley gets to deliver his fuck offs and fuck yous, fuck your bonuses, fuck your cancer Jonas, fuck your Shearer, your Keegan, your fans forum, fuck your stadium name, fuck the facilities, the academy, fuck the land around the stadium, fuck stadium maintenance, fuck the shirt, fuck communication, fuck Newcastle United, fuck Newcastle Upon Tyne, fuck you Geordies, fuck the 69 Fairs Cup surviving members, fuck the FA Cup, fuck European football, fuck your 4 league titles, 6 fa cups, fuck your memories beating Barcelona 3-2, the San Siro, Feyenoord, fuck your 5-0 win against Man Utd, fuck your mother, fuck your father, fuck your kids, fuck the number 9, fuck Rafa and his fucking glasses, fuck your Blaydon Races, fuck Wor Flags, fuck your atmosphere, fuck you and your poxy shit club, fuck your pathetic bond with it, fuck your tears, fuck your feelings, fuck what you think, want, care about, fuck you, the fuck you gonna do? Fuck off away and don’t come back, were running a fucking business here. Next... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Darth Crooks Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Choose life... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 People bothering to seriously respond to Cronky, lol He's not a million miles off it tbh, Rafa didn't want to sign up to having players like Joelinton signed over his own preferences such as Rondon. It was presented badly as if Rafa was being economical with the truth, but in reality there was a massive gap between what the owner and the manager wanted for Newcastle. Ashley wants profit, pure and simple, Rafa wanted success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Anything the club say about Benítez turning down the job for money is rubbish. If it’s true, then you’d think a host of top managers would want a £6m a year job and being given a £40m striker. Instead, we’ve went for the budget option as Head Coach and proof from Charnley that signings will be made regardless of whether the Head Coach wants them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandamninator Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Cronky man, that's a helluva lot of speculation in favor of the people who are known to lie and deceive the fans. You can't just make up an imaginary contract offer to argue against what Rafa has said. I didn't make that up myself. In that interview with the Daily Mail, Ashley said that the Rafa camp were asking for a one year extension, but he wanted to sign Rafa long-term. Presumably the one year extension was to give Rafa time to see what was happening with a takeover. Oh sweet baby jesus The Club admitted to the Tribunal that it repeatedly and intentionally misled the press, public and the fans of Newcastle United. Gutierrez was found to be a "credible and convincing witness". Managing director Charnley's evidence was described as "evasive and lacking in credibility". A decade later : Hey guys' date=' Mike Ashley said Rafa eats babies in an interview, sure glad we got rid of that monster - isn't Mike swell - we should be thankful for everything he has done for us, so much better than those dark days of Keegan and Robson[/quote'] This tribunal statement over the issue of whether Keegan had control of transfers does tend to get trotted out whenever it's convenient to disbelieve absolutely anything that Ashley says. You have to look at each situation as it comes. When is it not convenient to disbelieve absolutely anything he says? Interesting to say that "you have to look at each situation as it comes" - has there ever been a situation where you haven't drunk the Kool Aid and gone back to fantasising about find a used pair of his bootcut jeans? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I believe Rafa entirely. Ashley’s an absolute shyster who will try any trick in the book to fuck other people over. Rafa is a gent who is absolutely obsessed with football and getting the absolute best results for whichever team he works for. He deserves to be paid handsomely for being an incredible ambassador, professional and brilliant manager. Ashley deserves to have his head shoved in a toilet filled with shit on an hourly basis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 It’s quite simple, in Ashley you have someone who sits down with the players and tells them he will give them all a bonus if we don’t go down. When they deliver their end of the deal, he does the opposite. This is the same man who in the 3 years Rafa was here, you could count the times he looked him in the eye face to face on one hand. This is the same man who allowed a manager of Rafa’s calibre to walk and replaced him with Steve Bruce of all people. This is a man who doesn’t care about the club at any level other than the TV money. Rafa on the other hand cared about everything and cared so much, he would rather walk away than be a co-conspirator and accomplice in stripping an institution of all its assets, of its dignity, history, traditions, sense of community, pride, duty to the sport, the game and above all else to the true shareholders and owners, the people of Newcastle and fans the world over whose money, time, emotions and bond is being bled dry. Rafa owes us nothing nor the club, we owe him a lot and Ashley owes him even more for what he’s done for him. His loyalty and duty of care come free, at no extra cost, something the club gets for free at no extra cost too from our loyalty and duty of care which we don’t need to buy a season ticket or a replica shirt in exchange for. Rafa cared more for the club than all those so-called Geordies or supporters who were there at the weekend, each paying customer an accomplice and co-conspirator of Ashley, thousands of replica Bishops, Barnes’, Charnleys, fascist stewards confiscating Sack Pardew/Ashley Out material, the kind of people Ashley gets to deliver his fuck offs and fuck yous, fuck your bonuses, fuck your cancer Jonas, fuck your Shearer, your Keegan, your fans forum, fuck your stadium name, fuck the facilities, the academy, fuck the land around the stadium, fuck stadium maintenance, fuck the shirt, fuck communication, fuck Newcastle United, fuck Newcastle Upon Tyne, fuck you Geordies, fuck the 69 Fairs Cup surviving members, fuck the FA Cup, fuck European football, fuck your 4 league titles, 6 fa cups, fuck your memories beating Barcelona 3-2, the San Siro, Feyenoord, fuck your 5-0 win against Man Utd, fuck your mother, fuck your father, fuck your kids, fuck the number 9, fuck Rafa and his fucking glasses, fuck your Blaydon Races, fuck Wor Flags, fuck your atmosphere, fuck you and your poxy shit club, fuck your pathetic bond with it, fuck your tears, fuck your feelings, fuck what you think, want, care about, fuck you, the fuck you gonna do? Fuck off away and don’t come back, were running a fucking business here. Next... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 This tribunal statement over the issue of whether Keegan had control of transfers does tend to get trotted out whenever it's convenient to disbelieve absolutely anything that Ashley says. You have to look at each situation as it comes. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 This tribunal statement over the issue of whether Keegan had control of transfers does tend to get trotted out whenever it's convenient to disbelieve absolutely anything that Ashley says. You have to look at each situation as it comes. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: and comes and comes and comes and comes. Nope, no trend here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 This tribunal statement over the issue of whether Keegan had control of transfers does tend to get trotted out whenever it's convenient to disbelieve absolutely anything that Ashley says. You have to look at each situation as it comes. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: and comes and comes and comes and comes. Nope, no trend here. Cronky's out of his fucking mind but that may be one of my favourite ever quotes on this forum. If it was satire it would be amazing, but as we all know it isn't then it's somehow even better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 This tribunal statement over the issue of whether Keegan had control of transfers does tend to get trotted out whenever it's convenient to disbelieve absolutely anything that Ashley says. You have to look at each situation as it comes. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: and comes and comes and comes and comes. Nope, no trend here. Cronky's out of his fucking mind but that may be one of my favourite ever quotes on this forum. If it was satire it would be amazing, but as we all know it isn't then it's somehow even better. Fred West was a murderer but you have to look at each individual body under his patio as it comes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 bUhuHu EcHo ChAmBer RaGe QuIt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 This tribunal statement over the issue of whether Keegan had control of transfers does tend to get trotted out whenever it's convenient to disbelieve absolutely anything that Ashley says. You have to look at each situation as it comes. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: and comes and comes and comes and comes. Nope, no trend here. Cronky's out of his fucking mind but that may be one of my favourite ever quotes on this forum. If it was satire it would be amazing, but as we all know it isn't then it's somehow even better. Fred West was a murderer but you have to look at each individual body under his patio as it comes Judge each vicious killing on its own merits . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Slate is wiped clean after every murder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Slate is wiped clean after every murder. . Murders will stop completely if someone buys his house off him for £350m and let's him keep the patio. And the kettle. And the shed for his parents use. They'd be furious if he sold that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 The usual hysteria. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 The usual hysteria. Ashley has been consistently lying through his teeth for 12 years. Only you think that's even remotely debatable. Hysteria though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 The usual hysteria. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 The usual hysteria. #wait Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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