Rafa Benítez (now unemployed)

[Bimpy474]

5 hours ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

As sad as reading these sorts of quotes are, there is definitely the hope that post-Ashley it could very well be us sitting here with a modern manager coaching players in a revamped training facility with a squad of elite coaches. Regardless of who takes us over, Saudis, a local tramp or somewhere in between - we're going to be better off. Just ride out the next few years.

 

Aye, 15 years though, if he's not gone soon it'll be a generation of the vindictive cunt. ANY other club in and around the Premiership and this would be an utter scandal, but we just have to watch while we get blamed for not being thankful enough for his ownership.

 

Honestly I wished I could see any end to it but I just can't. He won't sell for anything less than his greedy parasitic mitts want, and the only party willing to pay him, are being blocked because it would threaten the Judas 6 from their money.

 

 

 

Edited September 12, 2021 by Bimpy474

[TRon]

36 minutes ago, ManDoon said:

He will die eventually. Then we get the guy who married his daughter, the club promoter. It’s all good times ahead!

 

  

 

It's kind of sad, but unless we get a PIF type of takeover, these are the type of chancers we are probably going to attract sadly. 

[Dr.Spaceman]

47 minutes ago, duo said:

There is no 'post-Ashley' - I am resigned it's not happening.  We are just not that lucky.

 

 

 

 

He's not immortal.

[Kanj]

1 hour ago, ManDoon said:

He will die eventually. Then we get the guy who married his daughter, the club promoter. It’s all good times ahead!

the club promoter who’s about to be The new ceo of Fraser’s and who’s actually done a brilliant job of turning their company around and modernizing the model a bit (just looking at earnings and info read in press). I’d take him over Ma and LC! 

[Dr.Spaceman]

There's nothing yet to suggest how the son-in-law would operate.

[Mike]

1 hour ago, ManDoon said:

He will die eventually. Then we get the guy who married his daughter, the club promoter. It’s all good times ahead!

 

I just got so tired reading that.

[Yorkie]

Another important function managers look for when bringing players they know to new clubs is for them to tell their team-mates about what to expect from the boss.

 

Benitez has now signed both Rondon and Townsend at Everton.

 

“If you have a player who knows how you work, and what’s coming in training, they can help spread the message in the dressing room — particularly if they’re a good mixer,” explains a source close to Benitez.

 

“In general, players get used to what they’re doing on a day-to-day basis and they like the routine.

 

“Under the last couple of managers (at Everton) it’s been a bit more low-key. Under Rafa, it’s intense and you need players who know why he trains like that to almost become pseudo coaches. They can break it down for their team-mates and ease it, because you’ll always get players who will say, ‘I’ve never had to train like this and I don’t like it’.

 

“Sal and Andros can say it’s worth it and it’s helped them improve in the past.”

 

Benitez is obsessive and meticulous in his role, always focusing on the little details that make players better.

 

“It’s something I love,” Rondon said in a previous interview with The Athletic.

 

“I remember our first meeting, the day I passed my medical and signed. I was waiting for the paperwork to go through. He talked to me for 45 minutes! I was in his office and he drew a horizontal line on a whiteboard and then a picture of a goal.

 

“‘What’s that?’ he asked me. ‘Er… A pitch?’ I said. ‘No’, he said, ‘you can go back to West Brom. This is a target. A target. Are you a striker?’ ‘Yes, I’m a striker,’ I said. ‘Well, where should you shoot?’ ‘Umm. Wherever the keeper can’t reach it?’ I asked. ‘No. Where? Which side?’

 

“So, on the drawing, he divided the goal into six squares. He told me the maximum percentage for goals is in the bottom left and bottom right corners. ‘If you shoot there and miss high, you still might score’, he said. ‘I know strikers want to score goals with quality and style, but shoot here and you’ll score. Pass the ball into the net. Pass, pass!’

 

“It went on for a long time, but it was really good. I’m still learning from him.”

 

Benitez may be a forward-thinking coach but like many others of his profession, it seems the benefits of signing players (most obviously Rondon) again and again are sometimes just too compelling to dismiss.

 

 

 

 

No thank you ill have a steve bruce instead please

[Consortium of one]

15 hours ago, Yorkie said:

Another important function managers look for when bringing players they know to new clubs is for them to tell their team-mates about what to expect from the boss.

 

Benitez has now signed both Rondon and Townsend at Everton.

 

“If you have a player who knows how you work, and what’s coming in training, they can help spread the message in the dressing room — particularly if they’re a good mixer,” explains a source close to Benitez.

 

“In general, players get used to what they’re doing on a day-to-day basis and they like the routine.

 

“Under the last couple of managers (at Everton) it’s been a bit more low-key. Under Rafa, it’s intense and you need players who know why he trains like that to almost become pseudo coaches. They can break it down for their team-mates and ease it, because you’ll always get players who will say, ‘I’ve never had to train like this and I don’t like it’.

 

“Sal and Andros can say it’s worth it and it’s helped them improve in the past.”

 

Benitez is obsessive and meticulous in his role, always focusing on the little details that make players better.

 

“It’s something I love,” Rondon said in a previous interview with The Athletic.

 

“I remember our first meeting, the day I passed my medical and signed. I was waiting for the paperwork to go through. He talked to me for 45 minutes! I was in his office and he drew a horizontal line on a whiteboard and then a picture of a goal.

 

“‘What’s that?’ he asked me. ‘Er… A pitch?’ I said. ‘No’, he said, ‘you can go back to West Brom. This is a target. A target. Are you a striker?’ ‘Yes, I’m a striker,’ I said. ‘Well, where should you shoot?’ ‘Umm. Wherever the keeper can’t reach it?’ I asked. ‘No. Where? Which side?’

 

“So, on the drawing, he divided the goal into six squares. He told me the maximum percentage for goals is in the bottom left and bottom right corners. ‘If you shoot there and miss high, you still might score’, he said. ‘I know strikers want to score goals with quality and style, but shoot here and you’ll score. Pass the ball into the net. Pass, pass!’

 

“It went on for a long time, but it was really good. I’m still learning from him.”

 

Benitez may be a forward-thinking coach but like many others of his profession, it seems the benefits of signing players (most obviously Rondon) again and again are sometimes just too compelling to dismiss.

 

 

 

 

No thank you ill have a steve bruce instead please

Bill Parcells was famous for bringing in a few of "his guys" even if they were almost done as players.  They set the example and helped secure buy in from all the players.

[Hhtoon]

Need Alex Bruce with us ASAP.

[nbthree3]

He's retired so he can join the 3 Steves and Graeme on the coaching staff. He can be the defensive coach as he played defence, but like his father it hasn't helped with his management of the defence

[The College Dropout]

All that detail doesn’t work at the biggest clubs. You can’t tell Ronaldo where to put it or tell Modric how to pass. 
 

but for teams like us, Everton - he’s ace.  Underdogs. At underdog clubs he’s most loved. 

[HawK]

25 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

All that detail doesn’t work at the biggest clubs. You can’t tell Ronaldo where to put it or tell Modric how to pass. 
 

but for teams like us, Everton - he’s ace.  Underdogs. At underdog clubs he’s most loved. 

 

I'm not sure I agree, it's more the attitude of the players. There's an anecdote around when Guardiola was Barca manager, he would pull Henry into his office and ask him what he could do better next time. Same sort of stuff really?

[Kanj]

Pep, Sir Alex, Mourinho etc. have coached the living daylight out of their top players. So, I don't agree with that Dropout. 

 

 

Edited September 13, 2021 by Kanji

[Guest]

Looks like he’s going with the formation he used towards the end here.

[Yorkie]

 

 

[KaKa]

13 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

Looks like he’s going with the formation he used towards the end here.

 

Yeah, think it's to counter Burnley's nonsense upfront.

[Yorkie]

Burnley team is basically identical to that night. 

[Kanj]

That smile, man.

[David Edgar]

Boss.

[ElDiablo]

[Paully]

I hate Mike Ashley for this alone - twat

[Fantail Breeze]

Forgot how much I missed the glasses going into the pocket. Fucking hell that hurt.

[Jaqen]

3 hours ago, HawK said:

 

I'm not sure I agree, it's more the attitude of the players. There's an anecdote around when Guardiola was Barca manager, he would pull Henry into his office and ask him what he could do better next time. Same sort of stuff really?

 

Aye Owen didn't seem a fan of the Rafa approach..No suprise there.

 

''We played a game against Celtic and I came off thinking, 'Oh, I've played well there. I've impressed the new gaffer.'

"Players were playing only half the game but I'd chipped the 'keeper, my link-up play was great and I thought I'd definitely impressed him."

Making his way off the pitch for the expected plaudits, Benitez, unlike other managers Owen had worked under, was more concerned with alternative aspects of the striker's performance.

"He just came over to me and said, 'Right, you're doing too much of this, too little of that, I want you getting in behind more...'

"I was just like, 'Ok, ok', and went back into my room with Jamie Carragher, 'One of the best performances I've probably ever put in, and he's just caned me there!'

"He has a very strange way of interacting with people, but it has obviously worked for him over time. Did I misjudge it? Probably, but I've never seen anything like him again, nor have the lads there."

Crucially, Michael Owen extended his bemused reaction to Benitez's characteristics to those experienced by two former teammates of his.

"Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher basically won the Champions League for him," he recalled, "and I don't think he's ever said 'Well done' or patted them on the back.

"That's just his character."

[Ed210]

Owen really is a horrible little specimen 

[Anderson]

Imagine trying to give a manager no credit for a Champions League final win, in that of all finals.  Doylem.