James Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 After what Staveley said I’d say it is 50/50 whether Benitez lasts the full day without Ashley sacking him. What? This. If he is pissed and have no intentions of doing a deal with PCP then sacking Rafa is the ultimate fuck you. It is a completely rational possibility based on the Ashley we know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 If I'm Rafa, I'm calling Fatty up first thing in the morning and tell him to accept the offer or I'm walking, and see how much the club is worth when it's crashing in the Championship with half the crowd gone. Can you imagine what the people who are, incredibly, siding with Ashley over the takeover bids would say if that went down? Hopefully it would shut them up from ever speaking on social media etc ever again. They'd just blame Rafa. Morons will be morons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 After what Staveley said I’d say it is 50/50 whether Benitez lasts the full day without Ashley sacking him. What? This. If he is p*ssed and have no intentions of doing a deal with PCP then sacking Rafa is the ultimate f*** you. It is a completely rational possibility based on the Ashley we know. It'd cost him a lot of money, therefore it ain't happening in a million years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I’m of the view that Ashley had wanted Rafa gone since summer and wanted Allardyce. The only thing that has stopped Rafa getting the sack is the knowledge that PCP would only buy if Rafa is the manager. That safety net is gone now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I’m of the view that Ashley had wanted Rafa gone since summer and wanted Allardyce. The only thing that has stopped Rafa getting the sack is the knowledge that PCP would only buy if Rafa is the manager. That safety net is gone now. I'm of the view that you're a mentalist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I’m of the view that Ashley had wanted Rafa gone since summer and wanted Allardyce. The only thing that has stopped Rafa getting the sack is the knowledge that PCP would only buy if Rafa is the manager. That safety net is gone now. So you honestly think Ashley would part with the compo and risk his chance at the PL money (more so than he already is)? The alleged interest in the club didn't surface til after the summer, no? What stopped him before that, when Allardyce was available? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I’m of the view that Ashley had wanted Rafa gone since summer and wanted Allardyce. The only thing that has stopped Rafa getting the sack is the knowledge that PCP would only buy if Rafa is the manager. That safety net is gone now. So you honestly think Ashley would part with the compo and risk his chance at the PL money (more so than he already is)? The alleged interest in the club didn't surface til after the summer, no? What stopped him before that, when Allardyce was available? I believe he wanted to force Rafa to resign first. I also believe that he wasn’t happy with how close the Championship was last year and after walking it with Hughton he doesn’t rate Rafa at all. But whereas before he was worried about compo he could well be past that. He is a cornered and wounded animal. He’s lost but he is going to damn well make sure that we all lose too. Just a question of whether it is today, a few weeks, or he turns the screw on Rafa even further to incite a resignation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Jesus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I’m of the view that Ashley had wanted Rafa gone since summer and wanted Allardyce. The only thing that has stopped Rafa getting the sack is the knowledge that PCP would only buy if Rafa is the manager. That safety net is gone now. The same Allardyce that he sacked? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I’m of the view that Ashley had wanted Rafa gone since summer and wanted Allardyce. The only thing that has stopped Rafa getting the sack is the knowledge that PCP would only buy if Rafa is the manager. That safety net is gone now. The same Allardyce that he sacked? And then this summer told Sky that it was the one decision he regretted and how sorry he was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I’m of the view that Ashley had wanted Rafa gone since summer and wanted Allardyce. The only thing that has stopped Rafa getting the sack is the knowledge that PCP would only buy if Rafa is the manager. That safety net is gone now. The same Allardyce that he sacked? And then this summer told Sky that it was the one decision he regretted and how sorry he was. In the same interview he said how amazing Rafa was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I’m of the view that Ashley had wanted Rafa gone since summer and wanted Allardyce. The only thing that has stopped Rafa getting the sack is the knowledge that PCP would only buy if Rafa is the manager. That safety net is gone now. The same Allardyce that he sacked? And then this summer told Sky that it was the one decision he regretted and how sorry he was. In the same interview he said how amazing Rafa was. You don’t think he hasn’t learned from Keegan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I’m of the view that Ashley had wanted Rafa gone since summer and wanted Allardyce. The only thing that has stopped Rafa getting the sack is the knowledge that PCP would only buy if Rafa is the manager. That safety net is gone now. The same Allardyce that he sacked? And then this summer told Sky that it was the one decision he regretted and how sorry he was. In the same interview he said how amazing Rafa was. You don’t think he hasn’t learned from Keegan? He hasn't learnt from anything else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I’m of the view that Ashley had wanted Rafa gone since summer and wanted Allardyce. The only thing that has stopped Rafa getting the sack is the knowledge that PCP would only buy if Rafa is the manager. That safety net is gone now. The same Allardyce that he sacked? And then this summer told Sky that it was the one decision he regretted and how sorry he was. In the same interview he said how amazing Rafa was. You don’t think he hasn’t learned from Keegan? He hasn't learnt from anything else. This is where we are all going wrong as a fans, we paint Ashley as a stupid buffoon. He has done many things wrong to this club, but it is all calculated, it is all purported. He is a billionaire. He is far from stupid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 If there isn't reinforcements Rafa should walk the day after the window closes. He's just wasting his time while fatty is here. Rafa is a bigger man than that, and there's still a small chance the takeover will happen later this year. There will never be a takeover imo. I agree with this sadly. He can just sit there and ignore everyone and I think he will. Many more miserable years ahead of us. I think he's here until he dies/retires. What a very depressing thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I’m of the view that Ashley had wanted Rafa gone since summer and wanted Allardyce. The only thing that has stopped Rafa getting the sack is the knowledge that PCP would only buy if Rafa is the manager. That safety net is gone now. The same Allardyce that he sacked? And then this summer told Sky that it was the one decision he regretted and how sorry he was. In the same interview he said how amazing Rafa was. You don’t think he hasn’t learned from Keegan? He hasn't learnt from anything else. This is where we are all going wrong as a fans, we paint Ashley as a stupid buffoon. He has done many things wrong to this club, but it is all calculated, it is all purported. He is a billionaire. He is far from stupid. Plenty of people who are capable in one sense are also capable of mitigating ignorance and inability to change. Very little to do with intelligence. He has a knack for some things clearly, people and the volatile reality of sport are not one of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I wouldn't say Ashley is a clever bloke like, he just has an instinct for a certain type of business and experience doing deals. And he is prepared to take huge risks to avoid losing face or being seen to let someone else get the upper hand on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 It doesn't take a great deal of intelligence when your two main traits are having lots of money and not spending any money. Being rich doesn't mean you know anything about running a football club and if you don't take Ashley as an example, there are plenty of others who prove that at other clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 It doesn't take a great deal of intelligence when your two main traits are having lots of money and not spending any money. Being rich doesn't mean you know anything about running a football club and if you don't take Ashley as an example, there are plenty of others who prove that at other clubs. His biggest failing was never putting a proper professional management coaching/player scouting structure in place. His never ending reliance on clowns and deadbeats and in the case of some just conmen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 It doesn't take a great deal of intelligence when your two main traits are having lots of money and not spending any money. Being rich doesn't mean you know anything about running a football club and if you don't take Ashley as an example, there are plenty of others who prove that at other clubs. His biggest failing was never putting a proper professional management coaching/player scouting structure in place. His never ending reliance on clowns and deadbeats and in the case of some just conmen. They were cheap. His bottom line is always cost cutting, even if it put the asset at risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 It doesn't take a great deal of intelligence when your two main traits are having lots of money and not spending any money. Being rich doesn't mean you know anything about running a football club and if you don't take Ashley as an example, there are plenty of others who prove that at other clubs. His biggest failing was never putting a proper professional management coaching/player scouting structure in place. His never ending reliance on clowns and deadbeats and in the case of some just conmen. He employs those people across the board, presumably because he's all of those traits himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 what time is his press conference today? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddydog Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 what time is his press conference today? 1.30 I believe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Cheers fella. Will pop sky sports news on and see what he has to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 It doesn't take a great deal of intelligence when your two main traits are having lots of money and not spending any money. Being rich doesn't mean you know anything about running a football club and if you don't take Ashley as an example, there are plenty of others who prove that at other clubs. His biggest failing was never putting a proper professional management coaching/player scouting structure in place. His never ending reliance on clowns and deadbeats and in the case of some just conmen. He employs those people across the board, presumably because he's all of those traits himself. Correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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