Raconteur Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I reckon its true he must get a big bonus off Ashley for keeping him on the gravy train, would explain why hes still here too. Maybe hes not the saint most people think? Every manager in the league would have a bonus system, and of course a relegation-threatened club would offer its manager a bonus to stay up. It's retarded to suggest this represents Rafa taking 30 pieces of silver. I reckon a new deal with anoher nice bonus for keeping Ashley up on peanuts is round the corner too. What would people make of him if he stayed on in them circumstances? You've said this so many times I'm fucking sick of it. I'll lay fifty of your English pounds that Rafa does not sign a new contract. Put up or shut the fuck up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 You're worse than crumpy. It is a valid point though. He may well get a nice bonus for keeping Ashley up and that is likely why he is still here lets get real. After that shambles at the weekend to add to cup surrenders at Oxford and Forest that is me done with him like, a nice path to Wembley opened up and he didn't even give it a go. That is criminal and i don't know how he gets away with it We don’t even have the budget of a Watford man. They make 11 changes and can bring in Gray, Hughes and Janmaat. We rotate and we’ve got Joselu, Manquillo and Hayden (would have probably played this anyway had the likes of Ki and Diame been available). That’s why he didn’t risk Rondon and the like. If anything happens to him we’re down to players who aren’t good enough for a Watford B team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I reckon its true he must get a big bonus off Ashley for keeping him on the gravy train, would explain why hes still here too. Maybe hes not the saint most people think? I reckon a new deal with anoher nice bonus for keeping Ashley up on peanuts is round the corner too. What would people make of him if he stayed on in them circumstances? There’s something not quite right with you. All your posts are insidiously anti-Rafa. It’s almost like you are trying to influence people and sow seeds of doubt about Benítez. Never anything about Ashley though. Strange. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 stars out of 5 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 He won’t stay unless out of nowhere he’s given a realistic budget to compete with. Don’t think he’s arsed about the politics between owner and fans if he can compete. That won’t happen though so he’ll be gone at some point in the next 6 months. He is never going to get that kind of money under Ashley though is he and he surely knows it ye is still saying " we will see" and "if the club do things right". A blind man could see things are not going to be done right. Fact is if Mike offers him a big money new deal with a 4m bonus for keeping him up again he will sign on. We will see. Only time will tell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 stars out of 5 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 You're worse than crumpy. It is a valid point though. He may well get a nice bonus for keeping Ashley up and that is likely why he is still here lets get real. After that shambles at the weekend to add to cup surrenders at Oxford and Forest that is me done with him like, a nice path to Wembley opened up and he didn't even give it a go. That is criminal and i don't know how he gets away with it We don’t even have the budget of a Watford man. They make 11 changes and can bring in Gray, Hughes and Janmaat. We rotate and we’ve got Joselu, Manquillo and Hayden (would have probably played this anyway had the likes of Ki and Diame been available). That’s why he didn’t risk Rondon and the like. If anything happens to him we’re down to players who aren’t good enough for a Watford B team. I am fully aware of the state of things and I am the biggest Ashley hater around. I just don't see the point in resting players for an all out defence loss tonight when we had a good chance to make Wembley and give this shitshow of a club a tiny ray of light. Our first 11 is more than capable of beating Watford as proven already this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 stars out of 5 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I reckon its true he must get a big bonus off Ashley for keeping him on the gravy train, would explain why hes still here too. Maybe hes not the saint most people think? I reckon a new deal with anoher nice bonus for keeping Ashley up on peanuts is round the corner too. What would people make of him if he stayed on in them circumstances? There’s something not quite right with you. All your posts are insidiously anti-Rafa. It’s almost like you are trying to influence people and sow seeds of doubt about Benítez. Never anything about Ashley though. Strange. I love Rafa and with the right backing he would end the trophy drought here and if I mentioned Ashley I would be on all day! I despise the man. So there is no chance he is only here still for a big bonus and there is no chance of him staying on? I am just suggesting he might be more in the loop with this farce than many think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 stars out of 5 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I reckon its true he must get a big bonus off Ashley for keeping him on the gravy train, would explain why hes still here too. Maybe hes not the saint most people think? Every manager in the league would have a bonus system, and of course a relegation-threatened club would offer its manager a bonus to stay up. It's retarded to suggest this represents Rafa taking 30 pieces of silver. I reckon a new deal with anoher nice bonus for keeping Ashley up on peanuts is round the corner too. What would people make of him if he stayed on in them circumstances? You've said this so many times I'm f***ing sick of it. I'll lay fifty of your English pounds that Rafa does not sign a new contract. Put up or shut the f*** up. Deal! Quote me/ bookmark this. I am a man of my word too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Rumours I've heard that Rafa gave them a list of names but they didn't fit in with the club's criteria (young, cheap, sell on value, etc..) they came back with a list of names for Rafa but he didn't want them and so there's been a Mexican stand off. He gets final say on transfers, but no actual say in who they are. You can't make this shit up! That's basically what he said in his interview. It's what happened with Joselu imo, "you can't have who you want but you can have him for £5m" ...... "ok it's better than nothing", he won't do that again. Explains his demeanour lately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Rafa has said that he would find it very difficult to leave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Boy Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 he will quit on Friday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 stars out of 5 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Rafa has said that he would find it very difficult to leave He must be some kind of masochist. Still I will have a nice £50 off Raconteur[/member] from it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Rafa has said that he would find it very difficult to leave He must be some kind of masochist. Still I will have a nice £50 off Raconteur[/member] from it Quoted for confirmation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 stars out of 5 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Rafa has said that he would find it very difficult to leave He must be some kind of masochist. Still I will have a nice £50 off Raconteur[/member] from it Quoted for confirmation Yeah a bets a bet and I will pay up if he leaves. I just cant see it and its not the certainty many people seem to think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Rafa has said that he would find it very difficult to leave He must be some kind of masochist. Still I will have a nice £50 off Raconteur[/member] from it Quoted for confirmation Yeah a bets a bet and I will pay up if he leaves. I just cant see it and its not the certainty many people seem to think Well, I won't get as irate when you espouse that belief between now and the end of the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Possibly his last game in charge tonight. Hope amid all the protests that he gets a nice send off in case it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 This bet...just so there's less grey areas, I assume it's if Rafa signs with Ashley staying as owner for the foreseeable? If for example a new owner came in who wanted to run a football club at the end of the season and Rafa signed that would invalidate the bet? It's just under Ashley's ownership in essence? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Winning the Championship and finishing 10th was just about forgivable, but not playing our best shit players at home to Watford in the FA Cup is unforgivable, just leave Rafa. Rafa is God man. He can do no wrong. He's world class you know? Still waiting on who he thinks we should replace him with. Hasn't answered that question in 3 years, still posts the same shite, still hasn't been banned. So, having the opinion Rafa is here now for his "keeping us up bonus" is a reason to be banned? Do you agree last season v city was the most cowardly performance witnessed at SJP in a long long time if ever? No? Didn't for a single moment to think you would. He's the unofficial head of the clique - he wants to maintain order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 stars out of 5 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Possibly his last game in charge tonight. Hope amid all the protests that he gets a nice send off in case it is. last game, protests Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 stars out of 5 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 This bet...just so there's less grey areas, I assume it's if Rafa signs with Ashley staying as owner for the foreseeable? If for example a new owner came in who wanted to run a football club at the end of the season and Rafa signed that would invalidate the bet? It's just under Ashley's ownership in essence? If Rafa is in the dugout here in August I win If he isn't Raconteur[/member] wins. No external factors to it as far as I am concerned Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 He won’t be. I know I know we can’t see the future. Ashley has proven once and for all he has no ambition for the club beyond survival or attracting the calibre of manager aspiring to elite level. The two positions are completely irreconcilable. Why would he? If it looks like a duck... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 i honestly think there'll be plenty slag him off for "bailing out" on us and putting us at even greater risk of relegation. there's a fair few that dont like him and call him every match.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 This bet...just so there's less grey areas, I assume it's if Rafa signs with Ashley staying as owner for the foreseeable? If for example a new owner came in who wanted to run a football club at the end of the season and Rafa signed that would invalidate the bet? It's just under Ashley's ownership in essence? If Rafa is in the dugout here in August I win If he isn't Raconteur[/member] wins. No external factors to it as far as I am concerned I suppose what I said was that Rafa will not sign a new contract. Therefore, I am obliged to accept that I did not include a change of ownership. Either way, it's still on. Ashley's not going anywhere before August 1, so I am happy to accept those terms Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Whether the protests happen or not tonight, it needs to be directed at Ashley. Not Rafa or the team and in fact, full and continued support for Rafa should be mainatined as much as possible during the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 That black cloud thing says there's rumours of an announcement today with regards to Rafas future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 stars out of 5 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 That black cloud thing says there's rumours of an announcement today with regards to Rafas future. I have said nowt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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