Decky Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 When we finished 5th Ashley just seen pound signs. Taking the club forward? Seriously? He wants us to finish 17th every year, finishing 5th just puts massive valuations on our players and gives Ashley the chance to sell and make bank. That will always be the case under his ownership. I mean fucking hell, we finished 12th this year, Ashley probably thinks we can sell the likes of ASM or Wilson, pocket a few quid, buy someone on the cheap and still scrape 17th place next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 17 minutes ago, Decky said: When we finished 5th Ashley just seen pound signs. Taking the club forward? Seriously? He wants us to finish 17th every year, finishing 5th just puts massive valuations on our players and gives Ashley the chance to sell and make bank. That will always be the case under his ownership. I mean fucking hell, we finished 12th this year, Ashley probably thinks we can sell the likes of ASM or Wilson, pocket a few quid, buy someone on the cheap and still scrape 17th place next year. I think given the start we had in 2011-12, and the fact that he allowed the purchase of Cisse in January when we were 6th or 7th in the table he did want us in the top 4 and I kinda buy the rumour that he was furious that we finished 5th and missed out on top 4 and CL money. By comparison look at 2013-14, we were 6 points off top on Boxing Day but did he allow investment in January? No, we sold our best player in Cabaye (who we've still not replaced to this day) and brought in Luuk De Jong on loan before the season tailed off with us getting battered regularly as it was job done; out of the cups and had ~40 points at the turn of the year. Pardew is also to blame for this btw, after the disaster that was 2012-13 he convinced Ashley, Llambias and a chunk of the fanbase that being in the Europa League was a bad thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 32 minutes ago, Decky said: When we finished 5th Ashley just seen pound signs. Taking the club forward? Seriously? He wants us to finish 17th every year, finishing 5th just puts massive valuations on our players and gives Ashley the chance to sell and make bank. That will always be the case under his ownership. I mean fucking hell, we finished 12th this year, Ashley probably thinks we can sell the likes of ASM or Wilson, pocket a few quid, buy someone on the cheap and still scrape 17th place next year. Don’t think anyone doesn’t realise this though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Liam Kennedy saying Rafa wants the job if a takeover happens and that if he takes a job elsewhere it could mean the takeover isn’t happening Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Incredible insight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Liam Kennedy’s excellent journalism showing it’s face there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 I get the feeling that any inside knowledge that Kennedy / Patterson might have had has dried up now the CAT case has been launched and they're just desperately trying to stay relevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Menace said: Incredible insight. Was about to post that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Fantail Breeze said: Liam Kennedy’s excellent journalism showing it’s face there. He’s ok and his heart is in the right place as he does want to see the club progress (naturally as a supporter). Noticed he has went from saying he is fully confident the takeover is happening to one of saying he’s not sure these last couple of months. Right way to go as nobody knows for sure. I mentioned last week I just wish all the people claiming to be in the know or having some supposed knowledge would just give it a rest and let the legal cases make the decisions. I just can’t see any of these ‘in the know’ voices having any effect whatsoever in either case. Nobody knows what is being presented by either side and nobody will get to know until a decision has been made. Opinions for either side winning the case carry no credence for these very reasons. Just can’t see any point of the consistent calling out, when not one person knows what is being presented within their arguments by either legal side. I woke up this morning and saw that 64 new posts had been made in the takeover thread and thought there might have been some news/updates being discussed. However, nearly every single post was a back and forth charade of who is right and who is wrong (again) based on very little apart from I’m right kids play. I can see media voices, arguments on here, Twitter, exclusives building up even more unfortunately with the current set case deadlines approaching. Just wish everyone would let it play out and wait for the legal cases to be heard. This is a general post not aimed at anyone specifically. Just sick of hearing who is right or wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, et tu brute said: He’s ok and his heart is in the right place as he does want to see the club progress (naturally as a supporter). Noticed he has went from saying he is fully confident the takeover is happening to one of saying he’s not sure these last couple of months. Right way to go as nobody knows for sure. I mentioned last week I just wish all the people claiming to be in the know or having some supposed knowledge would just give it a rest and let the legal cases make the decisions. I just can’t see any of these ‘in the know’ voices having any effect whatsoever in either case. Nobody knows what is being presented by either side and nobody will get to know until a decision has been made. Opinions for either side winning the case carry no credence for these very reasons. Just can’t see any point of the consistent calling out, when not one person knows what is being presented within their arguments by either legal side. I woke up this morning and saw that 64 new posts had been made in the takeover thread and thought there might have been some news/updates being discussed. However, nearly every single post was a back and forth charade of who is right and who is wrong (again) based on very little apart from I’m right kids play. I can see media voices, arguments on here, Twitter, exclusives building up even more unfortunately with the current set case deadlines approaching. Just wish everyone would let it play out and wait for the legal cases to be heard. This is a general post not aimed at anyone specifically. Just sick of hearing who is right or wrong. I agree generally, the only comment I would make is I haven’t seen many, if any, people claiming to be ITK. Most people are just sharing their opinion and people then discuss that opinion and either agree or disagree with it. Of course nobody can know the outcome of the case, neither the PL or NUFC will know either. But yeah, I agree. My post was because I don’t rate Kennedy at all, never really have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Fantail Breeze said: I agree generally, the only comment I would make is I haven’t seen many, if any, people claiming to be ITK. Most people are just sharing their opinion and people then discuss that opinion and either agree or disagree with it. Of course nobody can know the outcome of the case, neither the PL or NUFC will know either. But yeah, I agree. My post was because I don’t rate Kennedy at all, never really have. Luke? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 39 minutes ago, LV said: Luke? Mary? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Paully said: Except a certain ineffective midfielder who must have thought all his Christmas’s had come together with this news and the one that followed with the Bruce appointment. Still giving nothing on the pitch and also a first team shoe in. He’s not the only one still at the club who would certainly not there if Rafa was still here. Funny enough Atsu is one of them even though he recognised and appreciated by his comments, the forward plan in place. Mind I think Rafa would probably have got him fixed up at another club if he could not be sold, instead of having to train with the U23s all season with only a few reserve outings to his name. Edited June 2, 2021 by et tu brute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Luke Edwards sticking the knife in Rafa again this morning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Wonder how many lunches Brucey bought for that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 21 minutes ago, Ben said: Luke Edwards sticking the knife in Rafa again this morning He's utterly obsessed with him mind, the little fucking weirdo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 On 02/06/2021 at 22:17, Paully said: Shelvey's heart is broken. Just in a different way that means he can't run for more than 10 seconds at a time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 hour ago, UncleBingo said: He's utterly obsessed with him mind, the little fucking weirdo. I actually thought he seemed decent pre-Bruce! He's turned into a complete and utter helmet since he was appointed! Absolutely pathetic that headline! All to antagonise our fans and get comments and clicks! He's not going to get much from Rafa if the takeover goes through and he returns! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Blocked him ages ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, astraguy said: Blocked him ages ago That's the way to go, don't feed the troll. Don't give him the satisfaction of a response and he'll go and antagonize another fan base, most likely with a hatchet job about one of England's promising black footballers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 He'll be fine if Rafa does come back, because unlike Bruce with Hope, Rafa's not a pathetic little man who gets riled by something like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Ffs delete that shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavMcEl Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 On 30/05/2021 at 03:21, HaydnNUFC said: I can't just switch my NUFC attachment off, mainly because I'm an idiot. Believe me, over the last 2 years I've tried. But yeah, it just will be more of the same shite next season, probably an okayish start, a rancid run in December-March and a good end to the season topped off with a bottom 8 finish. A handful of good performances which are immediately followed with 90 minutes of shit a la the turnaround from West Ham away to Brighton at home, Burnley at home to Man Utd at home, Everton away to Palace at home et cetera. It's why Bruce is shit, no consistency, or just consistently shit. He never has taken a club to Europe via league position or won anything. Even if we somehow get Willock back, hold onto ASM or whatever, what I just described above is how next season will go. On top of all of that you've got the goading of the fans and being general cunt. Benitez, if he was still here and we were signing the likes of Dias and Fernandes like he's stated he was looking at doing before limitations imposed by the hierarchy stopped him from doing so, with Rondon, Perez et cetera, we'd be in Europe now. Or challenging the likes of Leicester. And like you say, 2011-12, 2017-18 and 2018-19, perhaps even this season at a stretch, are times to invest in the team and make those steps forward. But no. Newcastle United, a club of ifs. I know before Ashley's time, but the summer of 03 is always in my mind, we only brought in bowyer... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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