Kanj Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Still trying to wrap my head around why Martin hardy would write that article I've not read it, but I thought the last book he wrote meant he must have an inside track, that he is not just a random journo. So yeah, I don't know what to make of this article either. He’s a fan of Rafa and someone Rafa trusts I assume. I’ve read the book and when I read that article and even a few more of his negative ones I’m sort of lost tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Hardy's article is gutter press and so is his reasoning. Saying he hears people complaining after games. Of course people complain in frustration when they've just lost a game man. That's human nature ffs. There's plenty of love for Rafa among the fanbase, but equally there's a significant number who are thick as fuck and will turn on both the manager and the players they don't like very easily. You should be able to see that just by reading this thread. I wonder if Rafa had this at Liverpool as well? Their fans who come on here seem very knowledgeable, but I imagine they had their share of knuckledraggers as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I'm friends with Martin Hardy on FB, so have messaged him to see what the craic is with the piece. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Wish people would stop treating Hardy like he's any different to any other Journo tbh, just because he wrote a book doesn't make him special. He's no different to Balague in that regard, before he wrote the book he was as clueless as any other journo and now we are supposed to take him seriously? nah he's a moron. Unless it comes from Caulkin ignore it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Pardew got less stick. PARDEW. Just f***ing hell I presume you weren’t at the Stoke game... I was there holding a Pardew banner. But that was after a sustained period of fan organized protest. Before that no one gave him any stick. Rafa has been here not even a full PL season and already some bell ends are griefing him Even on that day the guys who were protesting got very little support. If anything they were met with barely concealed hostility by many. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Hardy's article is gutter press and so is his reasoning. Saying he hears people complaining after games. Of course people complain in frustration when they've just lost a game man. That's human nature ffs. There's plenty of love for Rafa among the fanbase, but equally there's a significant number who are thick as fuck and will turn on both the manager and the players they don't like very easily. You should be able to see that just by reading this thread. I wonder if Rafa had this at Liverpool as well? Their fans who come on here seem very knowledgeable, but I imagine they had their share of knuckledraggers as well. The fact there's pissheads down my local who think they can spot simple magic solutions to our problems that Rafa fucking Benitez is somehow missing is a source of continuous bafflement and irritation to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexjack Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 So why did he drop Gayle? That's probably real confidence boost for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 So why did he drop Gayle? That's probably real confidence boost for him. I suspect because we are away to Arsenal and he expects to be without the ball for long periods and thus picked Joselu as a horses for courses thing. I wouldn't have done it but the reasoning is understandable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 So why did he drop Gayle? That's probably real confidence boost for him. Rafa has a rationale for everything. I don't think he would have named the team and simply blanked Gayle without giving him a reason. Imo he chose Joselu for set pieces defending and a target man for us from set pieces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Simple he dropped Gayle because he can’t outrun Kosclenly and he can’t hold the ball up rendering him even more limited than Joselu in this sort of game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Simple he dropped Gayle because he can’t outrun Kosclenly and he can’t hold the ball up rendering him even more limited than Joselu in this sort of game. Darn that logic, always spoils a good chance for a rant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Wish people would stop treating Hardy like he's any different to any other Journo tbh, just because he wrote a book doesn't make him special. He's no different to Balague in that regard, before he wrote the book he was as clueless as any other journo and now we are supposed to take him seriously? nah he's a moron. Unless it comes from Caulkin ignore it. Did you read the book he wrote? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Rafa out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Rafa out! Who do we get in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Rafa out! Fuck off man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Open_C Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Rafa out! Who do we get in? Ancelotti Prepare the dossier Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 If this takeover falls apart, say in the next two weeks, and we're stuck with Ashley, do we assume that he sacks Rafa immediately and brings in a Pulis type manager? Nope. Ashley will never pay him off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Rafa will jack it in if the takeover fails, IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Hasn't he said in the press that we won't leave mid season regardless of incumbent ownership? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Rafa will jack it in if the takeover fails, IMO. That is the most obvious thing I've heard tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 tony pullis will keep us up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 #CarloIn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Rafa is doing a good job. The job of a manager is to get the most potential out of his team and he does that very well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Well that’s a lie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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