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Would you have Rafa back?   

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  1. 1. Would you have Rafa back?

    • Yes, as manager, immediately
      101
    • Yes, as manager, but at some point in the future (eg if relegated)
      97
    • Yes, in an advisory or DoF role
      74
    • No, not in any meaningful capacity
      132

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Mike

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Sigh

 

Followed the NY Knicks forever.  When Dolan let Donnie Walsh walk away I swore I'd never watch them play until Dolan was gone.

 

Same goes for Ashley and NUFC.

 

:lol: 'Sup fam.

 

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Really breaks my heart. I see the threads on here: Sean Longstaff, Miguel Almiron, Rafa Benitez, Salomon Rondon, Ayoze Perez. Just thinking about what this club could achieve if it only operated like a normal club.

 

Ashley is going full on, blantant heel now (edit: he already had, but don't think he had in his mind). I'm not spending money on football on tv, im not spending money on the club or sports direct or any associated companies. Granted, the only difference in that list is that I had a football subscription to watch PL last season so not much will change. Only connection to the club will be visiting this place to see if the fat cunt has keeled over or sold the club.

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I have had a second thought: may be this was the last obstacle for the takeover, and now we will be sold very soon

 

There was always one big question in my mind throughout the takeover: why would Ashley sell us if Rafa is here? Rafa has been performing magic and able to give Ashley minimum 30m (rough figure) profit per year. You may not grasp how significant it is but I can tell you assuming the club is worth 350m, it’s close to 8.5% return per year (and excluding the advertisement) which is f***ing attractive. Newcastle United is close to a cash cow under Rafa. No businessmen will sell such a cash cow unless other party offered astronomical money.

 

We all know that a big reason for Ashley to sell the club was because if Rafa left, the cash cow status will be gone and he needs to provide a lot of new funds for the new manager to improve the squad. So it’s a great timing to cash in and quit, hence the BZG story.

 

In other words, why would Ashley sell the club if Rafa is willing to stay and help to generate 30m per year into his pocket?  And if the club was to be sold shortly, the new contract was meaningless because surely BZG will negotiate with Rafa separately in relation to the working condition between Rafa and BZG.  Those terms (50m all inclusive per year etc) only applies when the club was not sold.

 

So to me, the negoatiation of the new contract itself always contradicts with the news that Ashley has agreed to sell the club to BZG. Hence I always ignore these news. However, the statement issued by the club today suggested otherwise. It’s real that the negotiation was carried between Ashley and Rafa, which means the club would not be sold to BZG shortly.

 

However, again this contradicts with the statement issued by BZG, which claimed that the price has been agreed between BZG and Ashley. So what was Ashley doing? On one hand agreed the price with BZG and on the other hand persuading Rafa to stay and work on his own terms (I.e. the club will not be sold)?

 

The only logical explanation I can think of now is, Ashley priority was to retain Rafa / the cash cow status (the terms offered would still generate huge profit to Ashley, I guarantee you this). The BZG takeover was the plan B in case Rafa decided to quit. Which is, Ashley has agreed the price with BZG but he would not finalise the deal until his first priority is gone.

 

This was also in line with recent development of the BZG story. After the proper test no more news has come out and it appears to be hold up by someone till now.

 

Hopefully the club will be sold shortly now as Ashley’s first priority has gone.

 

And again, thanks Rafa.

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I expected this to happen, but for some reason I'm slightly shocked in a weird way anyway. Just just can't fucking believe how stupid Ashley is! Supported the club since 93. I mean I know what Ashley is, he's a useless cunt of the highest degree and has done mistake after mistake and bad after bad after bad but I have to say this is the most idiotic thing ever in every way and in so many ways. It's impressive :lol: :( I guess the reason I'm slightly shocked is how anyone can be this stupid, even Ashley. But yeah, if someone can be/do it it's Ashley I guess. Fucking hell!

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I have had a second thought: may be this was the last obstacle for the takeover, and now we will be sold very soon

 

There was always one big question in my mind throughout the takeover: why would Ashley sell us if Rafa is here? Rafa has been performing magic and able to give Ashley minimum 30m (rough figure) profit per year. You may not grasp how significant it is but I can tell you assuming the club is worth 350m, it’s close to 8.5% return per year (and excluding the advertisement) which is f***ing attractive. Newcastle United is close to a cash cow under Rafa. No businessmen will sell such a cash cow unless other party offered astronomical money.

 

We all know that a big reason for Ashley to sell the club was because if Rafa left, the cash cow status will be gone and he needs to provide a lot of new funds for the new manager to improve the squad. So it’s a great timing to cash in and quit, hence the BZG story.

 

In other words, why would Ashley sell the club if Rafa is willing to stay and help to generate 30m per year into his pocket?  And if the club was to be sold shortly, the new contract was meaningless because surely BZG will negotiate with Rafa separately in relation to the working condition between Rafa and BZG.  Those terms (50m all inclusive per year etc) only applies when the club was not sold.

 

So to me, the negoatiation of the new contract itself always contradicts with the news that Ashley has agreed to sell the club to BZG. Hence I always ignore these news. However, the statement issued by the club today suggested otherwise. It’s real that the negotiation was carried between Ashley and Rafa, which means the club would not be sold to BZG shortly.

 

However, again this contradicts with the statement issued by BZG, which claimed that the price has been agreed between BZG and Ashley. So what was Ashley doing? On one hand agreed the price with BZG and on the other hand persuading Rafa to stay and work on his own terms (I.e. the club will not be sold)?

 

The only logical explanation I can think of now is, Ashley priority was to retain Rafa / the cash cow status (the terms offered would still generate huge profit to Ashley, I guarantee you this). The BZG takeover was the plan B in case Rafa decided to quit. Which is, Ashley has agreed the price with BZG but he would not finalise the deal until his first priority is gone.

 

This was also in line with recent development of the BZG story. After the proper test no more news has come out and it appears to be hold up by someone till now.

 

Hopefully the club will be sold shortly now as Ashley’s first priority has gone.

 

And again, thanks Rafa.

 

It’s got nothing to do with takeover.

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