Stifler Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Read that as 'Ashley used Staveley's interest as publicity. Staveley's offer is still on the table but Ashley couldn't give a fuck, he doesn't want to sell' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Someone kill this cunt, seriously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I think people are looking for complicated answers to something that's much more simple. The consortium became interested when we were about 6th in the league. Since then, the results have slipped and we're a far less enticing prospect. Although PCP may have started off thinking in terms of £250m - £300m, there's no way they can risk that sum now for an asset whose value might slip to £100m (if that). At the same time, Ashley isn't going to accept a bid of around £100m for a club whose value isn't going to go below that figure and which might easily be worth far more in a few months' time. The idea that a deal could be struck whereby Ashley would effectively pay back part of the £300m in compensation in the event of relegation is completely unrealistic. He would be bearing the risk of relegation whilst having no say about how much was invested in the transfer window to prevent that happening. All the signs are that if we stay up, the deal will be back on. The deal is off man, you don't get to say what Ashley has said and still sit around the table laughing and joking before coming to deal. Before today's statement it was likely that the deal would happen if and when our safety was confirmed, now today's statement has happened then it's over. There has not been any statement to the effect that the deal will never happen. The comment on Sky Sports was that the deal is off 'for now'. What I think has changed is that Ashley has realised that it won't happen during this transfer window, for the reasons I've stated, and that therefore the responsibility for making any investments in the squad this January will lie with him. This is what's probably behind the other news item about him giving the go-ahead for three signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 It was always a bit odd that the real source of money was never reported with any real intent.........'Middle Eastern' money means fuck all in the whole scheme of things. I'm generally not convinced they'd have been a 'good owner' but ABA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Did he fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Sounds like they’re trying to bait here to bite and up their bid. I know it’s fucked like, just needlessly spiteful, who’d have thought it, eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/any-bidders-newcastle-united-interest-14165126.amp Articles in Bloomberg and the Daily Mail last week claimed further interest and ChronicleLive has made contact with sources attempting to broker a second bid who insist there is “genuine interest” from a elsewhere and moves are happening behind-the-scenes to formalise that. But they have yet to meet Ashley or undertake due diligence. What we have ascertained is that another broker has signed a Non-Disclosure Agreement and the group trying to pair investors with the club have recently played a part in the takeover of Barnsley, which was a deal worth between £10million and £20million. A Newcastle deal would be much, much bigger and suspicion stalks the intentions of anyone talking up their bid. For what it’s worth, those sources say setting out the details of the bid would be contradicting the agreement signed by lawyers but that a bid is a “few weeks off”. They are not linked to United and laughed off talk of doing PR for Newcastle by encouraging other interest. They do not anticipate anything happening with any bid before the end of the season – or Ashley taking the club off the market any time soon. Before Staveley’s bid collapsed they told us that they were relaxed about rival interest because they felt Ashley would wait until the TV rights auction and knowing what the club’s divisional status was before agreeing on any deal. Sources close to the mooted second takeover bid insist that they would be interested even if the club were relegated – and they want Rafa Benitez at the helm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Come on Amanda get it done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Did he f***. Again, why would he meet up if he didn't feel it was serious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 An offer may still be on the table, but would you want to do business with somebody who has come out and basically called you a time waster and a liar? She might as well just tell him to do one. If you want the product, yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Did he f***. Again, why would he meet up if he didn't feel it was serious. She said she’d pay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Imagine Mike Ashley calling you a liar though. Fucking hell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I think people are looking for complicated answers to something that's much more simple. The consortium became interested when we were about 6th in the league. Since then, the results have slipped and we're a far less enticing prospect. Although PCP may have started off thinking in terms of £250m - £300m, there's no way they can risk that sum now for an asset whose value might slip to £100m (if that). At the same time, Ashley isn't going to accept a bid of around £100m for a club whose value isn't going to go below that figure and which might easily be worth far more in a few months' time. The idea that a deal could be struck whereby Ashley would effectively pay back part of the £300m in compensation in the event of relegation is completely unrealistic. He would be bearing the risk of relegation whilst having no say about how much was invested in the transfer window to prevent that happening. All the signs are that if we stay up, the deal will be back on. The deal is off man, you don't get to say what Ashley has said and still sit around the table laughing and joking before coming to deal. Before today's statement it was likely that the deal would happen if and when our safety was confirmed, now today's statement has happened then it's over. There has not been any statement to the effect that the deal will never happen. The comment on Sky Sports was that the deal is off 'for now'. What I think has changed is that Ashley has realised that it won't happen during this transfer window, for the reasons I've stated, and that therefore the responsibility for making any investments in the squad this January will lie with him. This is what's probably behind the other news item about him giving the go-ahead for three signings. You don't say what he's said and come to a deal man. Sky were saying it's off for now, either they are making the whole thing up and are backtracking somewhat to save face incase the deal does go ahead, or Ashley is playing poker with cards from card against humanity thinking it's going to land him the jackpot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Worked a treat in the past like. Anyway I'm looking forward to all this sudden extra interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 If PCP desperately want the club, which I doubt, then it's still on. Literally no point hoping for it though. This is fucking terrible. People say "oh this is life as a Newcastle fan, hope builds you up before you come back down to Earth" etc etc. I can't even have hope. I've only really known an Ashley owned NUFC and it's fucking shit. Someone just kill the cunt ffs. Had no idea it was possible to hate someone this much. Genuinely hope he gets a fucking terminal illness the odious bell end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Imagine Mike Ashley calling you a liar though. f***ing hell. What's worse, imagine people believing him. Dire state of affairs man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 What an absolute shithouse man. Honestly nobody does that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 If PCP desperately want the club, which I doubt, then it's still on. Literally no point hoping for it though. This is fucking terrible. People say "oh this is life as a Newcastle fan, hope builds you up before you come back down to Earth" etc etc. I can't even have hope. I've only really known an Ashley owned NUFC and it's fucking shit. Someone just kill the cunt ffs. Had no idea it was possible to hate someone this much. Genuinely hope he gets a fucking terminal illness the odious bell end. Fucking hell, I feel sorry for you. Why the fuck did you start.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 If it was just Ashley saying the deal is off, there'd still be hope. But it's the slander that followed.... any self-respecting businessperson would walk away and wash their hands of this man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Fucking kill iz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Staveley is in NYC at the moment by the way. Get round hers, @Mike. How about you save the NYPD some paperwork and shoot me yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 What Ashley's done to this club. http://www.minilps.net/images/stories/shop_image/product/JONESYFRT.jpg (Couldn't be arsed to remove the text.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Hypothetically speaking if you had the opportunity to kill him with no consequences for yourself would you? I mean, I like to think of myself as fairly moral but I think I would like. Him treating SD workers like s*** for years and continuing to do so even after being hauled infront of MP's would give even more justification like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I don’t see how anything has changed. PCP submitted an offer that Ashley didn’t want to accept and that’s it. Neither is prepared to budge a great deal so they’ll either find a compromise or PCP will walk away. That was always the case. The only problem is now Fat Mike might up his price because of the new TV deal. PCP will probably be prepared to pay more though if our PL status is assured for next season. Same same. You don't see how much has changed? The language used was pretty insulting to someone who brokers big deals for a living People like Staveley are not in business to make friends. I don’t actually know what language you’re referring to, but if you think an investor like Staveley would walk away from a £300m deal because someone said something a little bit mean, I’d call that a bit niaive (with all due respect). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 He doesn't really want to sell, and was never serious about it. Big fucking surprise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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