HawK Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Part of me also wonders if he's waiting till a total s*** of a buyer comes along who will destroy us even worse just so he can sell to them at a discount price and then say in the press a year later LOOK I WASN'T SO BAD I'm sure he'd take some joy out of selling us to a shitter owner, however it's all about what he can gain from it, so best offer wins. Unfortunately there hasn't been any serious offers to consider. Or there has been serious offers BUT he isn't really interested in selling? Closest we've come is the mess Staveley made last year, but it looked like she was just a tyre kicker with no real interest apart from looking to pick us up on the cheap. Now, i know we want him out, but he's not going to accept an offer that doesn't suit him. I wouldn't accept an offer for a possession that wouldn't suit myself either. If she was serious then they would have found an agreement, found the £50m or so to make the deal happen. They didn't and it was telling for that they tried to use a dirty trick media campaign to force his hand (which failed spectacularly) rather than come back with a better offer, something we'd expect from the current owner. IMO it would have been out of the pan and in to the fire, only with less potential financial backing. Mind, Staveley may have been hung out to dry by potential backers. Maybe at first she had a few that were worth a fortune and they liked the idea, but for whatever reason they pulled out so she tried to do it on her own. This would be why she couldn't make a second reasonable offer, if so then see the original point; not real offer was made. Staveley met Ashley’s price for the club, Ashley then went and put the price up as soon as we did, and we arn’t talking about £50m here, we are talking another £100m, another third of the price. Staveley has the money to pay that, assuming Ashley wouldn’t put the price up again. However she has plans for the club which includes about £150m of immediate investment. Around half of that would have been for players. Another half would have been for the training facilities/academy, and stadium improvements. From what I understand it wouldn’t just be training and acedemy upgrades, but a whole new training ground and academy complex in a new location. The sort of campus that Premier League clubs are building, and something that would be for every age group could use. It would also have meant that we would be able to invest a lot more into the woman’s team and included a female acedemy. All of this is what Rafa has said is essential to the club long term, and as I have said it’s what the bigger clubs in the league are doing. Staveley was nowhere near a tyre kicker, she even went out of her way to being in the Rueben brothers who own land in Newcastle that is to be developed in order to not only kick start the development of the club, but the city as a whole. Give over. This is basically what George Caulkin said, and he's seen evidence of the bids made. Ashley doesn't want to sell unless at a ridiculous price - hence he put the price up to £400m. Exactly this. The lad I know in the Middle East spoke to Staveley, knew the people involved and that they'd verbally agreed to the deal. Ashley changed his mind out of the blue after a boozy lunch meeting, and released the 'time waster' stuff through Bishop/The Sun. Anybody who believes the Ashley side of this story, is quite frankly, a fucking idiot. He has form, for being impulsive & belligerent. Remember he had a meeting with Sheik Mansour's people scheduled, he got on the piss, turned into Billy Bignuts and supposedly told an offsider something like "Fuck them (SM's people), they can come to me". Mansour turned his attention to City, and the rest is history. I can believe the story of the boozy lunch meeting, and Ashley doing his best impersonation of a East End gangster. Wait, what's this got to do with recently-outed super friends group? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrigan Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Obviously there is a group of members here that the forum 'evolves' around, and are friendly with each other outside this forum, and so displaying any sign of disrespect to them is a grave, grave sin. They are like pack of wolves, if one is attacked the others jump in to 'defend' that one. (Except they're not intimidating; more like pathetic playground kids that need each other for support.) Well this is laughable. Can’t wait to chat about it with Dokko and KI down the social later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Part of me also wonders if he's waiting till a total s*** of a buyer comes along who will destroy us even worse just so he can sell to them at a discount price and then say in the press a year later LOOK I WASN'T SO BAD I'm sure he'd take some joy out of selling us to a shitter owner, however it's all about what he can gain from it, so best offer wins. Unfortunately there hasn't been any serious offers to consider. Or there has been serious offers BUT he isn't really interested in selling? Closest we've come is the mess Staveley made last year, but it looked like she was just a tyre kicker with no real interest apart from looking to pick us up on the cheap. Now, i know we want him out, but he's not going to accept an offer that doesn't suit him. I wouldn't accept an offer for a possession that wouldn't suit myself either. If she was serious then they would have found an agreement, found the £50m or so to make the deal happen. They didn't and it was telling for that they tried to use a dirty trick media campaign to force his hand (which failed spectacularly) rather than come back with a better offer, something we'd expect from the current owner. IMO it would have been out of the pan and in to the fire, only with less potential financial backing. Mind, Staveley may have been hung out to dry by potential backers. Maybe at first she had a few that were worth a fortune and they liked the idea, but for whatever reason they pulled out so she tried to do it on her own. This would be why she couldn't make a second reasonable offer, if so then see the original point; not real offer was made. Staveley met Ashley’s price for the club, Ashley then went and put the price up as soon as we did, and we arn’t talking about £50m here, we are talking another £100m, another third of the price. Staveley has the money to pay that, assuming Ashley wouldn’t put the price up again. However she has plans for the club which includes about £150m of immediate investment. Around half of that would have been for players. Another half would have been for the training facilities/academy, and stadium improvements. From what I understand it wouldn’t just be training and acedemy upgrades, but a whole new training ground and academy complex in a new location. The sort of campus that Premier League clubs are building, and something that would be for every age group could use. It would also have meant that we would be able to invest a lot more into the woman’s team and included a female acedemy. All of this is what Rafa has said is essential to the club long term, and as I have said it’s what the bigger clubs in the league are doing. Staveley was nowhere near a tyre kicker, she even went out of her way to being in the Rueben brothers who own land in Newcastle that is to be developed in order to not only kick start the development of the club, but the city as a whole. Give over. This is basically what George Caulkin said, and he's seen evidence of the bids made. Ashley doesn't want to sell unless at a ridiculous price - hence he put the price up to £400m. Exactly this. The lad I know in the Middle East spoke to Staveley, knew the people involved and that they'd verbally agreed to the deal. Ashley changed his mind out of the blue after a boozy lunch meeting, and released the 'time waster' stuff through Bishop/The Sun. Anybody who believes the Ashley side of this story, is quite frankly, a fucking idiot. He has form, for being impulsive & belligerent. Remember he had a meeting with Sheik Mansour's people scheduled, he got on the piss, turned into Billy Bignuts and supposedly told an offsider something like "Fuck them (SM's people), they can come to me". Mansour turned his attention to City, and the rest is history. I can believe the story of the boozy lunch meeting, and Ashley doing his best impersonation of a East End gangster. Wait, what's this got to do with recently-outed super friends group? Oh i see, calling them super so you get an invite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Wait, we’re talking about Ableton now? Akai APC40 mk2... game changer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Always funny when people get upset over namecalling and social hierarchy on a largely anonymous internet forum like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Reminds me of the super best friends out of South Park. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Cliques ftw :: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Hopefully the weather holds for the N-O summer bbbq jamboree round Kaka’s later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 That Porto? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Aye mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Walnuts Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 class Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Lads, I'm running late. Gerrus me Bingo tickets in and I'll weigh in when I get there. Cheers muckers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Anyway, Ashley, still a cunt? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Always funny when people get upset over namecalling and social hierarchy on a largely anonymous internet forum like. I'm not upset, it's nothing more than your interpretation. I'm highlighting it because nowadays it seems that every time someone expresses an opinion that's that doesn't 'fit in', people get slagged off by those certain sections of the forum. Pathetic, childish and petty. Not to mention cowardly (as people relay on each other for back up knowing that support is not too far away for them). I remember before we played Man City at SJP (0-2 Yaya brace), most people on here were very confident about us getting a result and there was a feeling in the air of almost arrogance about it. After the match, I expressed my opinion that was along the lines that Pardew's tactics were too cautious and that we should have done better by playing a more attacking game. Needless to say, the majority of the usual members jumped on me stating things among the lines "it's Man City, man", "they're champions", blah blah blah, etc. Clearly, the following season, which we then knew more about Pardew, showed that I was well and truly right in criticising him (irrelevant how good a season we had - something which most people clearly were blinded by!). It was that day that I thought the majority of fuckers on here are nothing more than conformists who adopt the same opinion as the 'popular' members on here for one reason or another - mainly because they're ball-less to express an opinion that might 'stand out'. And it's not an anonymous forum for many, I've been here, and around previous NUFC boards, for nearly two decades now - hardly something that's not important when it comes to the online experience. Anyway, am I not invited to the barbeque or what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Oh, ffs! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 I won't be happy unless this ends with them oiled and shirtless scrapping in a Tesco car park at midnight I’m not wrestling a kid. Aye, you're not allowed within a hundred yards of any. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Always funny when people get upset over namecalling and social hierarchy on a largely anonymous internet forum like. I'm not upset, it's nothing more than your interpretation. I'm highlighting it because nowadays it seems that every time someone expresses an opinion that's that doesn't 'fit in', people get slagged off by those certain sections of the forum. Pathetic, childish and petty. Not to mention cowardly (as people relay on each other for back up knowing that support is not too far away for them). I remember before we played Man City at SJP (0-2 Yaya brace), most people on here were very confident about us getting a result and there was a feeling in the air of almost arrogance about it. After the match, I expressed my opinion that was along the lines that Pardew's tactics were too cautious and that we should have done better by playing a more attacking game. Needless to say, the majority of the usual members jumped on me stating things among the lines "it's Man City, man", "they're champions", blah blah blah, etc. Clearly, the following season, which we then knew more about Pardew, showed that I was well and truly right in criticising him (irrelevant how good a season we had - something which most people clearly were blinded by!). It was that day that I thought the majority of fuckers on here are nothing more than conformists who adopt the same opinion as the 'popular' members on here for one reason or another - mainly because they're ball-less to express an opinion that might 'stand out'. And it's not an anonymous forum for many, I've been here, and around previous NUFC boards, for nearly two decades now - hardly something that's not important when it comes to the online experience. Anyway, am I not invited to the barbeque or what? a fine example of artificial cross bearing... People like geordiedean got slagged off not because of some cabal of cool kids on the forum, but because their opinions were just embarrassingly absurd. Stop treating them like profiles in courage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Oh, ffs! You alright mate, need a cuddle ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 :lol: summary? i'm lost Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 :lol: summary? i'm lost There's a gang in here and Gimp is the ring leader clearly. Oh and they're horrible but Dinho is on to them, nothing to worry about like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Dokko hurt Stiffler's feelings by calling him a stalker. Dinholad bravely decided to use this as an example of forum persecution by the cool kids. Netflix is in talks with us about a teen series based on this. bimpy to be played by Alex Winter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Always funny when people get upset over namecalling and social hierarchy on a largely anonymous internet forum like. I'm not upset, it's nothing more than your interpretation. I'm highlighting it because nowadays it seems that every time someone expresses an opinion that's that doesn't 'fit in', people get slagged off by those certain sections of the forum. Pathetic, childish and petty. Not to mention cowardly (as people relay on each other for back up knowing that support is not too far away for them). I remember before we played Man City at SJP (0-2 Yaya brace), most people on here were very confident about us getting a result and there was a feeling in the air of almost arrogance about it. After the match, I expressed my opinion that was along the lines that Pardew's tactics were too cautious and that we should have done better by playing a more attacking game. Needless to say, the majority of the usual members jumped on me stating things among the lines "it's Man City, man", "they're champions", blah blah blah, etc. Clearly, the following season, which we then knew more about Pardew, showed that I was well and truly right in criticising him (irrelevant how good a season we had - something which most people clearly were blinded by!). It was that day that I thought the majority of fuckers on here are nothing more than conformists who adopt the same opinion as the 'popular' members on here for one reason or another - mainly because they're ball-less to express an opinion that might 'stand out'. And it's not an anonymous forum for many, I've been here, and around previous NUFC boards, for nearly two decades now - hardly something that's not important when it comes to the online experience. Anyway, am I not invited to the barbeque or what? a fine example of artificial cross bearing... People like geordiedean got slagged off not because of some cabal of cool kids on the forum, but because their opinions were just embarrassingly absurd. Stop treating them like profiles in courage. I didn't mention anyone in particular, but well done for mentioning someone that clearly provides no rationale or logic behind their opinion - it nearly worked! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 [emoji38] summary? i'm lost There's a gang in here and Gimp is the ring leader clearly. Oh and they're horrible but Dinho is on to them, nothing to worry about like. Ask em about Brexit, that'll end the dreadful reign of the N.O Superfriends Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 I did it specifically because that was the time the small but vocal "tell it how i see it" crowd began to cry persecution on the forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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