Zero Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 It doesn’t make sense, that’s why some are suggesting that he has fallen out with Howe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 20 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: A bit of the old [Ashley inspired] me feels this way, but he owes us nothing, in fact he's been a tremendous player for us, so I can't feel any bitterness towards his departure. I do hope if he's going to Man U we rinse them, though. Yeah, I do agree he did a decent job for us which I'm grateful for, and I didn't mean it as a dig at him. What I mean is that I don't really want an unhappy player in the squad, staying when he doesn't want to. Though, a part of me does feel that if he really thinks he should be No. 1 then he should back himself to prove that. But if he's not that confident and he's still unhappy, then I'd rather he moved on. There will be a few difficult calls like that I'd guess, as the squad improves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Abacus said: Yeah, I do agree he did a decent job for us which I'm grateful for, and I didn't mean it as a dig at him. What I mean is that I don't really want an unhappy player in the squad, staying when he doesn't want to. Though, a part of me does feel that if he really thinks he should be No. 1 then he should back himself to prove that. But if he's not that confident and he's still unhappy, then I'd rather he moved on. There will be a few difficult calls like that I'd guess, as the squad improves. I didn't think so, just with the rumour of him throwing his gloves at Howe, I think I got drawn into that mindset. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, buzza said: Why would he want to go and sit on the bench at Manure, being on the same money as he would here (how loans normally work). DOESN´T MAKE SENSE! Also, they really took the mick with Lingard, we should at least return the favour... I was thinking that, but maybe they can offer different bonuses, I don't know. It would seem likely as any appearance bonuses that he would be entitled to here, would be lost, I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 De Gea is an excellent keeper like. Surely that’s not open to discussion? Had a few rough moments which are always costly in his position given the likely cost of such. Still one of the top keepers in the league imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paullow Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, buzza said: Why would he want to go and sit on the bench at Manure, being on the same money as he would here (how loans normally work). DOESN´T MAKE SENSE! Also, they really took the mick with Lingard, we should at least return the favour... They do have European matches though - that could be up to 15 matches where he potentially starts, plus perhaps more likely to go on an extended cup run (although that's debatable this season), and maybe if DDG drops a few more clangers, maybe more chance of playing in the league as well. Plus maybe, at this stage, the 'Man Utd' factor might play a part. It's frustrating for us because we are seemingly losing a fine keeper to basically play the same role at another PL club, but I can see it from Dubs POV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 End of the day, if it doesn't work for us, it doesn't matter what he wants. Need to be ruthless as a club now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dazzanufc1892 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Thia loan saves on wages, brings in fee's, opens up a squad place and assists in FFP. That's all that needs to happen. Darlow is a reasonable backup and has been content in that position. Dubs is good but poor with his feet and has a pretty sizeable mistake in him 1 in 5 games. Take the financial benefits for a goalkeeper who turns 34 in January and roll with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, dazzanufc1892 said: Thia loan saves on wages, brings in fee's, opens up a squad place and assists in FFP. That's all that needs to happen. Darlow is a reasonable backup and has been content in that position. Dubs is good but poor with his feet and has a pretty sizeable mistake in him 1 in 5 games. Take the financial benefits for a goalkeeper who turns 34 in January and roll with it Such a good post this. Nails it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) Much rather sell him. However, if it's Man U, the loan fee is 10 million Edited August 25, 2022 by OverThere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: What on earth is going on in this thread? Has there been a carbon monoxide leak? Yep. Even if we've forgotten the clear improvement over Darlow & Elliot when he first signed, the increase in quality in goal after Christmas last season compared to before Christmas was huge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Just keep adding .99p until transfer deadline day and then go sorry, no deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Would've much preferred to keep him than Darlow. But being 1 injury away from playing for Man Utd at this stage in his career is probably better than the same for us. If he wants it, I hope it happens for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 You just know that as soon as he leaves then Pope will dislocate his shoulder or something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Hope he stays, great club servant Darlow is not good enough to be the No.2, he has unfortunately proven that over and over, so if Dubs goes someone else needs to come in - so a loan without obligation makes no sense. Whatever was saved on wages would be lost on a transfer fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mansour Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 We should let him go if he wants to go there. Manchester is a great club, and I hope we do not deny him the opportunity to go there, particularly at this stage of his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, midds said: You just know that as soon as he leaves then Pope will dislocate his shoulder or something We would be willing to loan Heaton with an obligation to buy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Surely there’s some very old but capable GK we could bring in if Pope got hurt for an extended period of time. The only part of this I don’t like is it being a loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 minute ago, timeEd32 said: Surely there’s some very old but capable GK we could bring in if Pope got hurt for an extended period of time. The only part of this I don’t like is it being a loan. I can still see you coming in for Henderson to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mansour said: We should let him go if he wants to go there. Manchester is a great club, and I hope we do not deny him the opportunity to go there, particularly at this stage of his career. Got to be fishing, but i'll bite anyway.... Why? At present we could realistically be finishing ahead of them for a few seasons. They've become the basket case club we were after Keegans first departure where no-one could get things right for whatever reason regardless of outspending most. Apart from a few extra £££ on the pay check or a serious falling out with EH there is no reason to sit on Man Us bench rather than ours Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Just now, Froggy said: I can still see you coming in for Henderson to be honest. Henderson's had a great start at Forest, looks like a very good keeper tbh but not the best team player, would expect to be no.1 wherever he goes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 For £5m, if it’s near enough guaranteed, then I’m happy with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: Surely there’s some very old but capable GK we could bring in if Pope got hurt for an extended period of time. The only part of this I don’t like is it being a loan. Krul? OK Old and not very old but would be happy with him as number 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mansour Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 minute ago, gjohnson said: Got to be fishing, but i'll bite anyway.... Why? At present we could realistically be finishing ahead of them for a few seasons. They've become the basket case club we were after Keegans first departure where no-one could get things right for whatever reason regardless of outspending most. Apart from a few extra £££ on the pay check or a serious falling out with EH there is no reason to sit on Man Us bench rather than ours He will certainly be paid more, that should be enough of a reason to want to go there. Dubravka earns £ 38,077 per week (£ 1,980,000), while Brandon Williams earns £ 65,000 per week (£ 3,380,000). Of course, we do not owe Manchester anything, 5m is the absolute minimum price we should be considering, or get any of their promising players on loan with an option to buy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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