Groundhog63 Posted Tuesday at 07:27 Share Posted Tuesday at 07:27 Just now, Lush Vlad said: Yes. I’m very angry So should we never discuss team selection, players we may or may not sign, tactics etc on here. Because let’s be honest. We all know fuck all about that and all Yes, but chill it down 😂😂😂😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted Tuesday at 07:28 Share Posted Tuesday at 07:28 They can’t be confident Pope isn’t going to break down again if they’re dangling that sort of carrot to Dubs. Pope was due back for Bournemouth, so comfortably inside the window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Tuesday at 07:31 Share Posted Tuesday at 07:31 3 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Yes, but chill it down 😂😂😂😂 Sensitive little so and so aren’t you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Tuesday at 07:48 Share Posted Tuesday at 07:48 27 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: Let him do that then? If he genuinely is that desperate to leave? Or get them to pay a fee. Also, not that this sort of scenario is going to be all that popular. But it’s a dangerous precedent to set. I’m guessing it would also put him on more than Pope and other first team players. So could potentially cause issues that way. We don’t know all the ins and outs. So purely speculating. But IF this is true and it is a big if, I know. It is Dubravka and his team driving it. Then after the Man U fiasco. Then he can fuck right off. It’s all speculation, but there isn’t any other reason I can think of that the club would pay more money for the remaining six months of a player’s contract unless they said they were off. Clubs in Europe have been able to do this for nearly two decades now, but there seems to be a collective agreement not to take players under these circumstances (because they’re all vulnerable to it - and of course it impacts selling and buying clubs). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted Tuesday at 08:04 Share Posted Tuesday at 08:04 32 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: Sensitive little so and so aren’t you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted Tuesday at 08:17 Share Posted Tuesday at 08:17 Im firmly in the camp of not paying him any more money. He's under contract until the end of the season, we've no requirement to accept any bid in January. Thinking he might throw the toys out of the pram and refuse to play is a stretch too. Once Pope is back he won't be playing anyway so why on earth would we be paying him more money for the rest of the season? I genuinely can't ever remember a scenario like this happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted Tuesday at 08:21 Share Posted Tuesday at 08:21 2 minutes ago, Decky said: Im firmly in the camp of not paying him any more money. He's under contract until the end of the season, we've no requirement to accept any bid in January. Thinking he might throw the toys out of the pram and refuse to play is a stretch too. Once Pope is back he won't be playing anyway so why on earth would we be paying him more money for the rest of the season? I genuinely can't ever remember a scenario like this happening. Is Pope coming back though, we are at a very important point at the season and Dubs has been crucial to our form Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted Tuesday at 08:21 Share Posted Tuesday at 08:21 He should be fucking grateful he's still here after the shit show that was the back half of last season. Four or five games stood reading his kindle in net with fuck all to do, then palming in the Bromley opener, and he wants a pay rise just to see out his last six months?! I hope we tell him to fuck off, either stay and see it out or get off to Saudi. Ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted Tuesday at 08:25 Share Posted Tuesday at 08:25 This guy can get fucked. Pay rise ffs, he's caught us at a bad time as he should've been moved on years ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Cardigan Posted Tuesday at 08:26 Share Posted Tuesday at 08:26 I think it would be helpful if people stop viewing the Greek as a viable option. Forest think he’s useless and Eddie thinks he’s useless. He’d probably pick Ruddy ahead of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Tuesday at 08:28 Share Posted Tuesday at 08:28 @Groundhog63 is going to be very upset at all the anger in here My post looks calm and balanced by comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted Tuesday at 08:31 Share Posted Tuesday at 08:31 4 minutes ago, Crimson Cardigan said: I think it would be helpful if people stop viewing the Greek as a viable option. Forest think he’s useless and Eddie thinks he’s useless. He’d probably pick Ruddy ahead of him. We thought Matz Sels was useless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted Tuesday at 08:37 Share Posted Tuesday at 08:37 This might be the football vs business side Howe is talking about. The business side is to scream at Dubs and call him a paedophile because he's asked for a raise, the football side is to give him a few grand to keep him sweet and look amicable to the rest of the squad, then go on and win the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted Tuesday at 08:38 Share Posted Tuesday at 08:38 People really looking at the slightest reason to give him shit still over speculation ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Cardigan Posted Tuesday at 08:38 Share Posted Tuesday at 08:38 6 minutes ago, madras said: We thought Matz Sels was useless. He was. He got a little better over many years. Not sure how that’s related to the greek Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted Tuesday at 08:43 Share Posted Tuesday at 08:43 (edited) He's been second fiddle to Pope, he's had a gentleman's agreement with the club that they would let him leave if he found a new club and all of a sudden we've realised that actually we need him until the end of the season. A financial sweetener, without a contract extension, is the perfect solution. It's going to be pennies to the club, and alot less money than it would be if we were forced into giving him a new contract which binded us to a player who's not in our long term plans. You can say "he's got a contract, so he can just do what we say" but as a club we will live and die by how we treat our players, if we treat Dubravka like shit by going back on our world, it would upset him, it could annoy his teammates and it could harm our reputation with potential signings. We've done the right thing. Edited Tuesday at 08:44 by STM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted Tuesday at 08:43 Share Posted Tuesday at 08:43 1 minute ago, Crimson Cardigan said: He was. He got a little better over many years. Not sure how that’s related to the greek It's the idea of useless. He wasn't but was going to take time to adapt to the premiership. I've watched the Greek play for Greece and he's not been bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Tuesday at 08:51 Share Posted Tuesday at 08:51 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Aiston said: People really looking at the slightest reason to give him shit still over speculation ffs Like the other day when you used a Dubravka fuck up to give shit to Pope Works the same way with you for Pope, apparently. Edited Tuesday at 08:53 by Lush Vlad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Tuesday at 08:53 Share Posted Tuesday at 08:53 1 hour ago, Nucasol said: They can’t be confident Pope isn’t going to break down again if they’re dangling that sort of carrot to Dubs. Pope was due back for Bournemouth, so comfortably inside the window. That is the plan, apparently. But even though we have a new setup with Bunce. I still worry about our injuries and return dates! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted Tuesday at 09:22 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:22 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: Like the other day when you used a Dubravka fuck up to give shit to Pope Works the same way with you for Pope, apparently. Saying neither would have made the save isn't the same thing as attacking someone in an angry hissy fit over a rumour Edited Tuesday at 09:22 by Aiston Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Tuesday at 09:24 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:24 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Aiston said: Saying neither would have made the save isn't the same thing as attacking someone in a hissy fit over a rumour Ah. I see that’s ok and we’re not allowed faux outrage in reply. But this isn’t ok? Also, people are also going the other way over said rumours and speculation and looking for a positive spin? Which is it? So we’re now just guessing at stuff across the board depending which player we like/don’t like? Edited Tuesday at 09:25 by Lush Vlad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted Tuesday at 10:02 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:02 All of this highlights just how bad the Greek lad must be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted Tuesday at 10:13 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:13 (edited) 1 hour ago, STM said: He's been second fiddle to Pope, he's had a gentleman's agreement with the club that they would let him leave if he found a new club and all of a sudden we've realised that actually we need him until the end of the season. A financial sweetener, without a contract extension, is the perfect solution. It's going to be pennies to the club, and alot less money than it would be if we were forced into giving him a new contract which binded us to a player who's not in our long term plans. You can say "he's got a contract, so he can just do what we say" but as a club we will live and die by how we treat our players, if we treat Dubravka like shit by going back on our world, it would upset him, it could annoy his teammates and it could harm our reputation with potential signings. We've done the right thing. This. Why are people finding this so hard to understand . We obviously agreed to let him go to Saudi which is probably life changing money. We’ve now gone back on our word on that for obvious reasons. Yes technically the legal position doesn’t reflect that but we’ve decided to give him a small amount of compensation to reflect the fact he’s given up that opportunity and to keep him happy and performing well in an important position where we have an injury prone first choice and a Greek third choice who isn’t trusted by anyone at Nottingham Forest or here and so clearly isn't a viable alternative. Edited Tuesday at 10:25 by jonny1403 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted Tuesday at 10:36 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:36 2 hours ago, Lush Vlad said: @Groundhog63 is going to be very upset at all the anger in here My post looks calm and balanced by comparison. 😂😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted Tuesday at 10:45 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:45 2 hours ago, Lush Vlad said: @Groundhog63 is going to be very upset at all the anger in here My post looks calm and balanced by comparison. I see what you mean 😂😂😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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