Conjo Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 59 minutes ago, Menace said: What did Tonali do that was so great when he came on I'm baffled? He's not Longstaff, which seems to be enough for an uncomfortable amount of people among our support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 Sometimes you need the lambo, sometimes you need the tractor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 5 minutes ago, 1964 said: Sometimes you need the lambo, sometimes you need the tractor Fairs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guybrush Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 Absolutely rank this Longstaff pile on from a section of our 'fans' like. Proper weird behavior. The lad is Newcastle through and through, never goes hiding, and always puts in a shift. Aye, he's probably not in the top 3 short list for the ballon d'or, but we could do far, far worse. It's like people forgot Jack Colback even existed There are so many other players that have played for us that deserved this kind of criticism. Longstaff isn't one of them. Baffled by people trolling player rating polls. It's pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 16 minutes ago, Guybrush said: Absolutely rank this Longstaff pile on from a section of our 'fans' like. Proper weird behavior. The lad is Newcastle through and through, never goes hiding, and always puts in a shift. Aye, he's probably not in the top 3 short list for the ballon d'or, but we could do far, far worse. It's like people forgot Jack Colback even existed There are so many other players that have played for us that deserved this kind of criticism. Longstaff isn't one of them. Baffled by people trolling player rating polls. It's pathetic. It's actually just bullying tbh on a mass scale. You can have criticisms of a player but when they're giving their all and actually playing well, what the fuck is that all about, fucking whoppers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 I do wonder what's happend to him physically (and maybe mentally?) though. Looking at older footage of him, he is noticeably slower and way less agile than he used to be. You never see him pull off some of those "easy" but effective dribbles to get away from his man anymore. He seems incapable of turning with the ball unless he's got like 3-4 seconds in order to pass forwards. It's like watching a completely different footballer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 He played his part today and did ok. I still think he's extremely limited but his weaknesses are amplified when he's on the ball and needs to do something creative and productive. We were under the cosh for an hour but he held firm, stuck it out, got a foot in when necessary and disrupted Spurs' attacks. When we're on the back foot and soaking it up then he always looks better. Ask him to bring it out or pass/create then he's out of his zone. He did well enough today, solid 6 or 7 out of 10. The score on BBC is a joke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 I think he’s a decent enough footballer with a great attitude to running. Reckon he’d probably play better football at a club where he’s not terrified of making mistakes. That’s a shame. I really like him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 Just now, Lotus said: I think he’s a decent enough footballer with a great attitude to running. Reckon he’d probably play better football at a club where he’s not terrified of making mistakes. That’s a shame. I really like him. must be hard for him and miggy knowing they're invariably going to be made scapgoats. think he mentioned it in a recent interview. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 He's not had a bad start of the season at all, but even in his limited minutes, Sandro looks different gravy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 1 minute ago, huss9 said: must be hard for him and miggy knowing they're invariably going to be made scapgoats. think he mentioned it in a recent interview. That is very sad. Imagine a childhood dream becoming a nightmare in a team that’s doing alright ffs. I’d rather he was on the bench but I want him to stay if he’s happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 17 minutes ago, Lotus said: That is very sad. Imagine a childhood dream becoming a nightmare in a team that’s doing alright ffs. I’d rather he was on the bench but I want him to stay if he’s happy. soon will be on the bench once tonali and (hopefully} willock get up to speed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 12 minutes ago, Conjo said: I do wonder what's happend to him physically (and maybe mentally?) though. Looking at older footage of him, he is noticeably slower and way less agile than he used to be. You never see him pull off some of those "easy" but effective dribbles to get away from his man anymore. He seems incapable of turning with the ball unless he's got like 3-4 seconds in order to pass forwards. It's like watching a completely different footballer He was relatively unknown then and teams either had totally underestimated him or hadn’t done any scouting on how to play against him. He’s not a terrible player by any means.. he’s had some cracking games for us but he’s not brave enough on the ball at times and his speed of thought I believe is affected by confidence issues. He sometimes waits too long to play that pass. I believe he’s just well scouted now and teams know how to stifle him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted September 3, 2024 Share Posted September 3, 2024 Not a massive fan of his. I think he takes an age on the ball to make a decision and his passing is often woeful or at times, he just plays safe for no reason. However. I thought he was a bit better with the ball on Sunday. The ping out to Barnes was something I’d love to see more of from him. Can’t really question his off the ball work. He always puts a shift in and it’s probably why Howe loves him so much. Some stats below to back up the eye test from this game. I know we didn’t have a lot of the ball. But the only NUFC player on there and he only played about an hour. So even more impressive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 3, 2024 Share Posted September 3, 2024 He was noticeably getting more tackles in for sure, and being more active in engaging opponents rather than just standing in front of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted September 3, 2024 Share Posted September 3, 2024 Maybe with Tonali able to play again it’s give him a kick up the arse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted September 3, 2024 Share Posted September 3, 2024 On 01/09/2024 at 23:03, Conjo said: I do wonder what's happend to him physically (and maybe mentally?) though. Looking at older footage of him, he is noticeably slower and way less agile than he used to be. You never see him pull off some of those "easy" but effective dribbles to get away from his man anymore. He seems incapable of turning with the ball unless he's got like 3-4 seconds in order to pass forwards. It's like watching a completely different footballer he's looked vastly improved physically this season compared to last imo. He's getting to challenges much quicker. The rest will follow hopefully. It's clear to me he was playing with a pretty bad injury last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted September 3, 2024 Share Posted September 3, 2024 1 hour ago, Myleftboot said: Maybe with Tonali able to play again it’s give him a kick up the arse. Or he's not carrying an injury but playing through it because we're short? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 3, 2024 Share Posted September 3, 2024 Hopefully it'll help him to not have to play so much and be relied on so much. He's not at the level we need but he can contribute as a squad player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 3, 2024 Share Posted September 3, 2024 His contract is up at the end of the season. Tricky one as he's a useful squad player, but as a homegrown, any sale would be all profit which is gold for PSR purposes. He's 27 so you'd have thought he'd be getting more clubs sniffing around, but there haven't been a whole load of rumours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 18 hours ago, TRon said: His contract is up at the end of the season. Tricky one as he's a useful squad player, but as a homegrown, any sale would be all profit which is gold for PSR purposes. He's 27 so you'd have thought he'd be getting more clubs sniffing around, but there haven't been a whole load of rumours. I think he'll end up leaving on a free and potentially going to one of the newly promoted sides Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 I think he gets a new contract 3+1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 9 minutes ago, r0cafella said: I think he gets a new contract 3+1. Think I'll log off NUFC twitter forever if this happens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 (edited) 3 hours ago, r0cafella said: I think he gets a new contract 3+1. Makes sense, even to retain his value if nothing else. Doesn't make any sense to let him walk on a free. Edited September 4, 2024 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 8 minutes ago, jack j said: Think I'll log off NUFC twitter forever if this happens Why it would be the right move? If the mongs on twitter can’t grasp that your better off sticking to good old NO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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