huss9 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 and murphy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 21 minutes ago, madras said: Got to put Longstaff in there as well. Yeah got to be Longstaff. I think it was the Southampton game where he'd covered every inch of grass after just 30 mins. Just unbelievable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 14 hours ago, huss9 said: and murphy. Have a word. Murphy has done OK and he's a likeable character who's improved a bit, but you cant compare his contribution this season to that of Willock or Schar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Yeah Murphy is still pretty pants but I loved his scrapping at the end of the Chelsea game. For someone who looks like he'd struggle against a mild breeze he's a right little radge. So there's points for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Only on the bench against Cameroon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, Jinky said: Best looking bloke on the bench against Cameroon. Tidied Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 How did he do today? Didn't get to see the matches. Saw he got top ratings on bbc sport. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, HawK said: How did he do today? Didn't get to see the matches. Saw he got top ratings on bbc sport. He was quite solid, and put his body on the line like a nutter a couple of times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Top ratings for our man from the BBC! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 10 hours ago, HawK said: How did he do today? Didn't get to see the matches. Saw he got top ratings on bbc sport. I watched this game, thought he was brilliant. Calm and composed and raked a beautiful 60 yard cross field ball towards the end which was beckham-esque Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Glad to hear he did well, I see he didn't start the first two Swiss games. I think he's very underrated, even by our own support, and even now that we're flying high. There are moments you see from players sometimes that makes you realise they really fucking care. Shay Given when he left under a cloud to join City due to his dismay at the direction we were taking. José Enrique left to go to a club with 'more ambition'. I remember Fabian Schar absolutely seething in an interview once after a game on the pitch (found a transcript below) : [quote="https://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/read-fabian-schars-explosive-interview-after-newcastle-united-defeat-3028910]“Everybody had a **** game, to be honest,” said the defender. “And we can't continue like this. We had a good game (in the 2-1 home win against) Everton, then we start a game like this. All the players need to come together more. It's what we need to think about – everybody needs to look at themselves and do a better job. I don't think we can keep going like that. If we keep playing like that, it's not enough.” [/quote] I knew then that he was one of those players that cared a lot about his job. His demeanor was beyond his words, I can't find the video, but he was fucking angry. From that moment I knew we had a proper player, skillful beyond what he was allowed to show from what I could see, and an absolute bang-on attitude. He's not fast, he doesn't have to be, he's so good with the ball at his feet and the way he strikes a ball doesn't need any mention on here. I've been watching Newcastle since 94, and I think that collectively him and Botman are the best central defence partnership we've had in all my time supporting the club. We've had outstanding individuals before - Albert and Woodgate spring to mind, and Woodgate for me is still the best I've seen, but he had Andy O'Brien or Titus Bramble for teammates and was also injured a lot. Don't know what point I'm making now, just a brain fart on our defenders over the years, but Schar is up there in my top 4 with Woodgate, Albert, Botman and himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Schar is great, and I've said it before and will say it again, that cabbagehead wasted 2 years of his prime career is criminal. It was absolutely clear under Rafa what a class act he is. As great as Botman is (and he is great) it's not like he's overshadowing Schar at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Tiresias said: Schar is great, and I've said it before and will say it again, that cabbagehead wasted 2 years of his prime career is criminal. It was absolutely clear under Rafa what a class act he is. As great as Botman is (and he is great) it's not like he's overshadowing Schar at all. Even under Rafa he didn't look like a back 4 centre half. He looked slightly better than the rest because he was decent on the ball and scored. Defensively he was one of 3 centre halves. He's been Howe'd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, madras said: Even under Rafa he didn't look like a back 4 centre half. He looked slightly better than the rest because he was decent on the ball and scored. Defensively he was one of 3 centre halves. He's been Howe'd. agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 I don’t think there are many defenders capable of playing in a back 4 that’s predominantly focused on compact defending and countering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) Yeah, he never looked like a good PL defender before Howe came in, imo. Edited December 4, 2022 by The Butcher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 I would agree he liked best in a 3 but in that system schar was mint not having this rewriting history that schar was rubbish until Howe spotted him cabbagehead didn't know what to do with him. Howe may have improved him still but that's nonsense him, lejeune and lascelles was best backline for a long time up till then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Yeah, he never looked like a good PL defender before Howe came in, imo. Nonsense that. Under Rafa in his last season he looked very good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: Nonsense that. Under Rafa in his last season he looked very good. In a two, I forgot to mention. He looked good in that back three. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) Schar and Lejeune were excellent as the two wide centre halves under Rafa. I do think Schar has got even better under Howe though. Edited December 4, 2022 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 This might be somewhat anecdotal, but I think a lot about a player can be measured by how upright he is when he has the ball and how little he looks down. Schar is straight as a rod on the ball, reminds me of the imperiousness of Woodgate whilst in posession. It's why I never rate players like Ritchie or Fraser who don't seem capable of moving the ball without staring at their own feet the whole time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 2 hours ago, HawK said: This might be somewhat anecdotal, but I think a lot about a player can be measured by how upright he is when he has the ball and how little he looks down. Schar is straight as a rod on the ball, reminds me of the imperiousness of Woodgate whilst in posession. It's why I never rate players like Ritchie or Fraser who don't seem capable of moving the ball without staring at their own feet the whole time. aye that famously upright Maradonna and Messi are awful like 🤦🏻 you ever thought biomechanics might play a bit of a part in it, along with the massive disparity in height between the players you mentioned? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Biometrics take on N-O Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Kanji said: Biometrics take on N-O All wondrous walks of life are here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, Kanji said: Biometrics take on N-O good to see people know the difference between biometrics and biomechanics 🤦🏻 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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