The Butcher Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Think he's our best defender and he really should start if he's available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 On 28/11/2021 at 07:50, Abra Dubravka said: Us all twisting our dicks into wonder why Fernandez isn't playing isn't going to get him playing sooner. Might be a personal situation with Federico, he might need to take time away on for personal shit - hope not, but nobody knows. The sooner that Fed and Schar play in the same defence the better! Expand We can only discuss the club , twisting is all we can do mate , we know that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Jones will be constantly telling Howe that barmy story of how he can’t be a sub as he can’t come in if we are winning or if we are losing. Won’t take Howe long to realise Jones is bat shit crazy and Fernandez will be back in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeepShow4life Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Fernandez doesn't seem to be the type that's lazy in training, must be more to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir_9 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Everytime Clark or Lascelles start ahead of him a part of me dies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 If only there was some sort of weekly meet up between the press and the manager where one of them could do their job properly and ask the question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 There has to be something going on in the background for him to not even be on the bench for ages! He’s our best defender! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliemort Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Not even close should be manquillo, fed, schar, lewis or someone else. The left back is the only tough pick, from the little i seen of Lewis he really hasnt settled in and lacks confidence byt Ritchie is a liability without the ball. Christ, cant believe we still have to rely on paul dummett ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 On 28/11/2021 at 08:00, GWN said: We can only discuss the club , twisting is all we can do mate , we know that Expand "We're rich as fuck and fucking shit - rich as fuck, we're fucking shit" Discussions over whether Lascelles should play over Fernandez is redundant. Fernandez was relegated with Swansea, he's only a bit less shit. Same conversation with Ritchie at LB - aye, Ritchie is shite, but Lewis is shit as well. Any discussion on our players now really is throwing shit in the air and arguing over which pile smells best. Ashley/Bruce have left us now with the worst squad I've seen in my time... Dubravka/Schar/ASM/Wilson. Going into this season those players were the only players I thought good enough to be starting for Newcastle United. It's so sad how low the standards of this club have fallen. Media take the piss, thinking we all expect to be in CL; but honestly, take a good look at what Ashley and Bruce left us with - would Fernandez get in any other side in the PL? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyprickles Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 On 28/11/2021 at 10:50, Abra Dubravka said: "We're rich as fuck and fucking shit - rich as fuck, we're fucking shit" Discussions over whether Lascelles should play over Fernandez is redundant. Fernandez was relegated with Swansea, he's only a bit less shit. Same conversation with Ritchie at LB - aye, Ritchie is shite, but Lewis is shit as well. Any discussion on our players now really is throwing shit in the air and arguing over which pile smells best. Ashley/Bruce have left us now with the worst squad I've seen in my time... Dubravka/Schar/ASM/Wilson. Going into this season those players were the only players I thought good enough to be starting for Newcastle United. It's so sad how low the standards of this club have fallen. Media take the piss, thinking we all expect to be in CL; but honestly, take a good look at what Ashley and Bruce left us with - would Fernandez get in any other side in the PL? Expand Surely an integral part of this forum is discussing players. Not sure what your angle is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Doesn't take much but he's easily our best centre half like. Get him back in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 On 28/11/2021 at 11:02, rickyprickles said: Surely an integral part of this forum is discussing players. Not sure what your angle is. Expand Okay, when was the last time you saw Fed play well? I don't think finishing 13th under Bruce was a fair reflection? I think we deserved to be relegated - Joe Willock to the rescue. Coloccini was a top player, so was Cabaye; the players that have that have come in to replaced them haven't been good enough. It's quite frankly boring discussing whether Fernandez would be better than Lascelles or Clark - all three shouldn't be playing for this club. Not so long ago, even Willamson and Taylor would start ahead of this dross... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 On 28/11/2021 at 11:21, Abra Dubravka said: Not so long ago, even Willamson and Taylor would start ahead of this dross... Expand Nah, can’t have that. Williamson and Taylor were no better than Krafth or Clark (especially). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) On 28/11/2021 at 11:28, Raconteur said: Nah, can’t have that. Williamson and Taylor were no better than Krafth or Clark (especially). Expand Clark has had his moments. Don't really judge a CB on scoring headers at corners, or having good games in the Championship. Solid, but recognising Ciaran Clark as a good player really is testament to low our values of this club have fallen. Ciaran Clark was shit in an Aston Villa defence that was relegated from the PL. Federico Fernandez was shit in a Swansea defence that was relegated from the PL. Jamal Lewis was shit in a Norwich defence that was relegated from the PL. Manquillo was shit at Sunderland. Ashley employing ex-Sunderland is another topic, but Manquillo was shit at Liverpool and Athelti. Any ideas why we lose more games than we win - because these players are playing - just shit week in week out; at the extreme best 6/10. Edited November 28, 2021 by Abra Dubravka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 On 28/11/2021 at 10:28, Paully said: There has to be something going on in the background for him to not even be on the bench for ages! He’s our best defender! Expand That's my thoughts as well, pretty well documented in this thread, but we don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Howe is still pretty new in the job, maybe he's taking advice off Jones and other backroom staff. We'll get a better idea of his own ideas in the next few weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) Fernandez should be playing for a side like Getafe. Raul Albiol is going at 36.... Lascelles' standard last couple of years has been Championship - fuck off back to Forest and drag Darlow too. Nobody reading this wouldn't bat an eyelid reading Ciaran Clark's name on Burton Albion's teamsheet. Enda Stevens, played LB alongside Clark in that Villa side - his next contract - League 1. Edited November 28, 2021 by Abra Dubravka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Fitness issue perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Emil Krath? Just shit. Jamal Lewis, he's shit as well. Mikel Merino was good, he didn't stay too long. The closest thing to replacing Cabaye. Came from Dortmund, within 2 months was linked at Barca. Mitro, replaced with Joselu. Adam Armstrong allowed to leave and replaced with Muto for 11M£. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 On 28/11/2021 at 12:04, Abra Dubravka said: Emil Krath? Just shit. Jamal Lewis, he's shit as well. Mikel Merino was good, he didn't stay too long. The closest thing to replacing Cabaye. Came from Dortmund, within 2 months was linked at Barca. Mitro, replaced with Joselu. Adam Armstrong allowed to leave and replaced with Muto for 11M£. Expand In hindsight Stavely and co should have waited to see how this season panned out. They've basically bought a house thinking it only needed a new kitchen and a few minor repairs, only to find out the foundations are fucked and virtually everything needs replacing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 On 28/11/2021 at 12:09, Beth said: In hindsight Stavely and co should have waited to see how this season panned out. They've basically bought a house thinking it only needed a new kitchen and a few minor repairs, only to find out the foundations are fucked and virtually everything needs replacing. Expand I seriously doubt Stavely and the other buyers were under any illusion that investment was not urgently needed. We are where we are due to 20 years of mismanagement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 They said it was like an 8 year plan, right? Sounds about right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 On 28/11/2021 at 12:09, Beth said: In hindsight Stavely and co should have waited to see how this season panned out. They've basically bought a house thinking it only needed a new kitchen and a few minor repairs, only to find out the foundations are fucked and virtually everything needs replacing. Expand Amanda/RB/PIF aren't daft enough to look at a house and not see it's foundations are made from gold, yet glossed over with oversized freebie mugs. First action was to sack the fat arsed mug. Accomplished. Ashley tied him into a lovely contract, contractually a sweetheart-deal but Bruce was fucked the moment Ashley signed off. It wasn't overnight, Bruce left. Charnley has gone as well. Sports Direct signage still stands, but that will fall.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 On 28/11/2021 at 12:35, Unbelievable said: I seriously doubt Stavely and the other buyers were under any illusion that investment was not urgently needed. We are where we are due to 20 years of mismanagement. Expand 20 years ago we we're playing in the Champions League were we not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) On 28/11/2021 at 12:04, Abra Dubravka said: Emil Krath? Just shit. Jamal Lewis, he's shit as well. Mikel Merino was good, he didn't stay too long. The closest thing to replacing Cabaye. Came from Dortmund, within 2 months was linked at Barca. Mitro, replaced with Joselu. Adam Armstrong allowed to leave and replaced with Muto for 11M£. Expand Wow, when you consider that, Muto. And allowing Toney to leave, the work Graham Carr did shouldn't have been ignored, he said in four years time Toney would be a top striker. But nobody is prepared to wait, they want success over night. Edited November 28, 2021 by mighty__mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) As much as this huy is our best defender, our LB position is the weakness of the whole defence. How many goals have been conceded through that flank? Really need to get that area tighter and with Ritchie now out for Norwich, get Lewis in with a view to keep him there moving forward. Fed also needs to start. Edited November 28, 2021 by nufcjb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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