Gallowgate End Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 is Brendan Rodgers a phenomenal manager for managing a team in the country to an unprecedented double treble and an unbeaten season?. In all reality he was given the edge by managing the team that is streets ahead of the rest and the gulf between the likes of celtic and Motherwell,Hearts etc is the same as the gulf between city and the bottom half of the premier league Aye Brendan Rodgers has always been a bit of a conman. I’ll be interested to see how he does next season still probably Top half becuase of the amount of open teams he will get to play shot for shot with. But I don’t think he is as good as he makes out to the media. “We came to Man City and played with big team personality and dominated the ball for large periods” No you didn’t Brendan Imagine if Rafa came out and said that after a loss with like 35% of the ball or whatever that actor had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 I think the fact that Pep has spent his time at big clubs is being used as a stick against him - sure, he can afford the very best players, but if it was as easy as that, the CL final would be PSG v Madrid every year. He's shopping from the very top shelf, but he's still got to choose the right characters, and manage those characters, and create and implement tactical plans, manage the dozen world class players who sit on the bench or in the stands every week - all while not losing ever because you are expected to not lose ever. If it was just Barca, then there would be a case for saying it was "his" club, so it doesn't count. You could then say "yeah, but Bayern," but to be consistently so dominant in three very top leagues - it's more than just chequebook management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Fails in the champions league though, tactically naive in knockout format. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 You know who succeeds in the knockout format... 2 finals now: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie john Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Regarding Pep, Klopp, Rogers etc. I've often wondered what would happen if the top five and bottom five managers swapped places for a season. Just how good would the 'best' do with a poor club, because that's surely the mark of a great manager and coach. And how would Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea do with a 'poor' manager? Is it down to the players, the team ethics or more to do with their coaching? It's complete fantasy of course and will never happen, but it would really sort out the great managers who can get the best to win as opposed to the great manager who can get the poorest to win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Kompany being at a club like City is such a shame. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2356283577768394&id=147389575324483&ref=page_internal&__tn__=%2As%2As-R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Regarding Pep, Klopp, Rogers etc. I've often wondered what would happen if the top five and bottom five managers swapped places for a season. Just how good would the 'best' do with a poor club, because that's surely the mark of a great manager and coach. And how would Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea do with a 'poor' manager? Is it down to the players, the team ethics or more to do with their coaching? It's complete fantasy of course and will never happen, but it would really sort out the great managers who can get the best to win as opposed to the great manager who can get the poorest to win. Same Klopp and Pochettino would be the best for me. Guardiola would be a disaster having to play with players who can’t play his way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Regarding Pep, Klopp, Rogers etc. I've often wondered what would happen if the top five and bottom five managers swapped places for a season. Just how good would the 'best' do with a poor club, because that's surely the mark of a great manager and coach. And how would Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea do with a 'poor' manager? Is it down to the players, the team ethics or more to do with their coaching? It's complete fantasy of course and will never happen, but it would really sort out the great managers who can get the best to win as opposed to the great manager who can get the poorest to win. Same Klopp and Pochettino would be the best for me. Guardiola would be a disaster having to play with players who can’t play his way. Players can be coached like. Bielsa got a Leeds team full of shit players to nearly the Premier League. If Rodgers did as well as he did in the first few seasons with Swansea with little investment the Guardiola could do similar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 i think managers that play a more expansive style like guardiola would need longer for the players to adapt to their methods, same for klopp actually poch would walk into a shite PL team and have no bother Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Poch has already done it with Southampton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 i think managers that play a more expansive style like guardiola would need longer for the players to adapt to their methods, same for klopp actually poch would walk into a s**** PL team and have no bother Klopp would be fine as long as he got a pre season to get them fit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Get them fit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Poch has already done it with Southampton. And did a good job with Espanyol if I remember correctly Very well rounded manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Get them fit Yes. Gengen pressing requires extreme fitness levels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 It just sounded funny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 He's a great manager, but even he admitted that his success (at least with Barca) was mostly down to the quality of Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Regarding Pep, Klopp, Rogers etc. I've often wondered what would happen if the top five and bottom five managers swapped places for a season. Just how good would the 'best' do with a poor club, because that's surely the mark of a great manager and coach. And how would Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea do with a 'poor' manager? Is it down to the players, the team ethics or more to do with their coaching? It's complete fantasy of course and will never happen, but it would really sort out the great managers who can get the best to win as opposed to the great manager who can get the poorest to win. Its like the debate is Lewis Hamilton really that better a driver than the lads who drive for lesser teams just because he has the best tools at his disposal?. Put the likes of Guardiola in with our squad he wouldn't do half as near as Rafa and would end up throwing a strop because of the players hes working with are far inferior to what hes accustomed to Luis Enrique was another one who won everything at Barca is he a great coach because of that??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Real behind at the Bernabeu again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 I do think Guardiola would probably have a breakdown in no time if he was working with lesser players mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Real behind at the Bernabeu again Lost 2-0. Zidane's essentially been experimenting since he came in. Bale couldn't even get off the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Kevin Lisbie is playing in this game. Fucking hell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Just scored a 90th minute goal in his final game before retirement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Just scored a 90th minute goal in his final game before retirement. It wasn’t him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Racist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 I do think Guardiola would probably have a breakdown in no time if he was working with lesser players mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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