Yorkie Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 There was clearly some negotiations that reached some very early stage. There was people with information at that point... but now what, those sources have just decided to keep schtum? Why would they reveal what they did when they did, then say nothing else? Probably because there's nothing to talk about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribesman Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 If a takeover ever happens then I don't think this Saudi Arabian group will be the new owners. It certainly doesn't seem to be as "advanced" or "close" as some outlets seemed to claim. Just too many conflicting claims to make it seem its going to happen. When the first of these takeover stories emerged I thought the lack of any news was a good thing, but it never turns out to be the case. Probably won't be long till we have another letter or Ashley interview to kill it off altogether. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 A letter from the Saudi's saying how lovely Ashley is would be brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 If a takeover ever happens then I don't think this Saudi Arabian group will be the new owners. It certainly doesn't seem to be as "advanced" or "close" as some outlets seemed to claim. Just too many conflicting claims to make it seem its going to happen. When the first of these takeover stories emerged I thought the lack of any news was a good thing, but it never turns out to be the case. Probably won't be long till the Saudis kill Ashley off. Would be preferable at this point! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 This period of "no news" is the very best thing that could be happening. It means one of two things . . . (1) Work on the Takeover is proceeding through its various stages, as during that period of negotiation neither party would be saying anything at all . . like now ! or (2) Nothing at all is happening, as it was all "made up". Either way, this quiet period will END, and then (and only then) will anything that means anything (ie not media know-nothing speculation) be said, and we will then KNOW the answer. Until then, we should all just relax and wait !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 It all sounds similar to Staveley's last attempt, and I think it will end the same way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Yep, with Mike putting the block on it and blaming others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 I mean we're all in agreement that there's concrete interest in buying but Ashley is not a willing seller right? There's surely no other reasonable viewpoint. Also believe Staveley unlikely to come back if she couldn't meet the financial demands, why waste the time, so things are either plodding along in the background or Ashley's demands have fucked it. Suppose the relegation thing could be real as Staveley's original bids were very cautious in that respect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Not so sure about that, I think some still believe that Bishop and Ashley are puppet masters across the globe and that Staveley is a time wasting tyre kicker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Not so sure about that, I think some still believe that Bishop and Ashley are puppet masters across the globe and that Staveley is a time wasting tyre kicker. Jesus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 It all sounds similar to Staveley's last attempt, and I think it will end the same way. I'm left wondering why Staveley feels Ashley is likely to sell to her after the way the last attempt ended. I can see it ending the same way this time too. At this point I honestly don't know what to think of Staveley. She's the only party that has seemed credible in their attempts (BZG was bollocks from the start, although nobody would have that at the time of course). There has to be a slight possibility she's having us on and anyone who discounts that absolutely would be slightly foolish given the history here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Nah it won’t happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Silence is golden. The quieter it’s become the more desperate the national and local rags have gotten to produce bullshit click bait. They’re struggling to rehash weeks old info at this point. If it is indeed happening, it means that all parties are doing what they’re supposed to be doing which is doing it quietly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novocastrian Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Silence suits Ashley down to the ground, of course it can’t drag on for ever and he’ll eventually have to come out and say he’s received no bid or some such bollocks. Still think he’s waiting for his preferred bidder to find the cash which allows him to continue feeding on the corpse of the club into the next decade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 I sometimes wonder if I have a mental illness as I keep checking this thread thinking eventually something may happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweMag Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 It all sounds similar to Staveley's last attempt, and I think it will end the same way. I'm left wondering why Staveley feels Ashley is likely to sell to her after the way the last attempt ended. I can see it ending the same way this time too. At this point I honestly don't know what to think of Staveley. She's the only party that has seemed credible in their attempts (BZG was bollocks from the start, although nobody would have that at the time of course). There has to be a slight possibility she's having us on and anyone who discounts that absolutely would be slightly foolish given the history here. Amanda Staveley talked to the media in February 2019: “We are big fans of Newcastle, big fans of the team,” she said. “We have no issue with Mr Ashley, that (the ”time waster” claim) is water under the bridge. It’s still an interesting club to us, the fans are fantastic...” Wouldn’t it be foolish to come back a second time to buy the club if you’re not confident to complete it? She made three bids last time. She did business with Mike Ashley. She ate dinner with him. She was called time-waster. Why return if you’re not confident to complete this time? Remember Amit Bhatia? The chairman at QPR who commented ”good luck with it I’m excited for you” in an article on Twitter about the Reuben brothers involved in the deal. He’s a friend of both James Reuben and Carla DiBello. Both James Reuben and Carla DiBello are said to be involved in the negotiations. Remember Mike Ashley’s private plane and helicopter who recently vistited Genève (where the Reuben brothers are located) and a place in France very close to Mohammed bin Salman’s mansion. Oh boy how I want this takeover to happend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 I’ll never hate fans that much for going, it’s a mad situation to be trapped in. Fans are ‘supposed to’ support their club, although obviously this is based on the premise that the club is trying. That impulse is why football fans are so easy to exploit. All fans are easy to exploit. When there is money involved, the fans always get the shaft, even with amateur sports. And still we come back... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 It all sounds similar to Staveley's last attempt, and I think it will end the same way. I'm left wondering why Staveley feels Ashley is likely to sell to her after the way the last attempt ended. I can see it ending the same way this time too. At this point I honestly don't know what to think of Staveley. She's the only party that has seemed credible in their attempts (BZG was bollocks from the start, although nobody would have that at the time of course). There has to be a slight possibility she's having us on and anyone who discounts that absolutely would be slightly foolish given the history here. Amanda Staveley talked to the media in February 2019: “We are big fans of Newcastle, big fans of the team,” she said. “We have no issue with Mr Ashley, that (the ”time waster” claim) is water under the bridge. It’s still an interesting club to us, the fans are fantastic...” Wouldn’t it be foolish to come back a second time to buy the club if you’re not confident to complete it? She made three bids last time. She did business with Mike Ashley. She ate dinner with him. She was called time-waster. Why return if you’re not confident to complete this time? Remember Amit Bhatia? The chairman at QPR who commented ”good luck with it I’m excited for you” in an article on Twitter about the Reuben brothers involved in the deal. He’s a friend of both James Reuben and Carla DiBello. Both James Reuben and Carla DiBello are said to be involved in the negotiations. Remember Mike Ashley’s private plane and helicopter who recently vistited Genève (where the Reuben brothers are located) and a place in France very close to Mohammed bin Salman’s mansion. Oh boy how I want this takeover to happend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Silence suits Ashley down to the ground, of course it can’t drag on for ever and he’ll eventually have to come out and say he’s received no bid or some such bollocks. Still think he’s waiting for his preferred bidder to find the cash which allows him to continue feeding on the corpse of the club into the next decade. Well depends if you buy the line that Ashley has really remained silent. After the story broke, there was articles about how he was furious that the news had been leaked and how it might scupper the whole deal. I think those sort of 'leaks' only suit him. Of course you could say he hasn't actually said anything in a quote, but going off his previous record, I'm inclined to believe he is bullshitting again. If he is trying to sell, it will be to someone like Kenyon who will allow him to keep his hooks in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 The leak pissed off both sides, so they've gone out of their way to keep the rest watertight. Journalists are getting desperate during the silence, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 deals leak all the time - generally hands are slapped on either side, some threats of breach of contract are discussed. People go silent after. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Back to plane spotting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 To me, it looks like Stavely (and Kenyon) see value in buying low on Newcastle. I say low because apparently they believe that Newcastle has great potential for commercial growth: a large iconic stadium, loyal fans in a one team area and with continental football, the clubs value could increase rather quickly, IMO. That would mean that she cobbling people together to come up with the needed funds and who ever is jumping on board is doing so in order to maximize their profits. Buy for 350M, invest 200M sell for ?M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 it is easily the most painfully obvious opportunity to anyone. club value is "high" to would-be buyers because there is SO much money needed in the facilities (SJP renovation, new training centre, new academy), infrastructure in staffing (football and business side in place is apparently bare-bones), and eventually players. add in the relatively low commercial income as compared to other sides and the opportunity for growth in club value comes from investment in these areas and tieing up lucrative long term commercial partners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Ashleys choice : take the money and run or hang on forever , squeezing £ out the club by any means necessary . The focal point for that decision could be the possibility of another financial crash at which point the TV money for football surely has to fall as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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