Mike Ashley (former owner) (still alive)

[Minhosa]

merchandise etc. as well aye, probably loads of little bits of shit he's used to coin it in

 

I'd hazard a guess that he's used every trick in the book to cream cash away and all off the books.

[HaydnNUFC]

[Dokko]

 

 

 

Jesus wept  :lol:

[Rafalove]

https://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/investor-breaks-silence-newcastle-united-takeover-talks-mike-ashley-2548030

[Kanj]

Has anyone done the maths to see what he (potentially) walks away with after 13 years? Not including the free sponsorship but the premiership/tv money not invested. Player sales and sale price?

 

what?  he can't take money out of the club like that man

 

very roughly it'll be

130m he paid initially paid back

130m loan to himself repaid

300m sale price rumoured

 

so 50-60m profit all told plus the years of free advertising

 

he's done pretty fucking well tbf

 

And also the unquantifiable amounts he's creamed off the top from agents fee's etc plus the land sale, plus the free advertising.

 

He's certainly cleared well over £120m imho one way or the other.

 

would love to have all the numbers to run a simple IRR on his investment.

[Guest neesy111]

 

 

 

[steve_69]

Frasers Group reveals that it is not eligible for the Bank of England’s Covid Corporate Financing Facility (CCFF)

 

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/mike-ashleys-frasers-group-settles-18143177

 

I reckon he's under some serious financial pressure

[Dr Jinx]

Settled their Belgian tax bill as well.

 

Headlines are quite misleading. They mention the 600 odd million that was what they initially claimed was owed but this amount was reduced by around 475m

 

But that’s still around 150m paid. And probably not directly from SD as they aren’t that cash rich.

 

Wonder if he’s received a bit of a windfall already and given a loan to his other company??

[GWN]

Not long now you fat kunt

[Yorkie]

I fancy opening a can of worms. To what extent are the supporters accountable for Ashley deciding that he's ready to sell? Are the fans who stopped going more responsible for his departure than the ones who stayed? Is there anything in it?

[Stifler]

I fancy opening a can of worms. To what extent are the supporters accountable for Ashley deciding that he's ready to sell? Are the fans who stopped going more responsible for his departure than the ones who stayed? Is there anything in it?

Without a doubt those who protested and turned away are responsible. Those who sat there and took it would have kept him here if everyone did.

It was going after SD and his mates which made him sell up I think. The 10k walk aways was possibly the final straw, the one where he knew he’d made one fuck up too many. Come the summer if he still owned us there would be a big question he could have got the 10k free ticketers to pay up, and if Bruce’s football and his signings would have prevented others from leaving.

[Charlies]

I fancy opening a can of worms. To what extent are the supporters accountable for Ashley deciding that he's ready to sell? Are the fans who stopped going more responsible for his departure than the ones who stayed? Is there anything in it?

 

He obviously panicked otherwise he wouldn't of give away all the season tickets, but, imo the recent developments are all due to the COVID19 crisis. He's bleeding money/share price all over & its fucking glorious. 

[Kanj]

Yorkie[/member] combo of him being done with us and covid19. Covid def pushed him over the edge.

[wormy]

I fancy opening a can of worms. To what extent are the supporters accountable for Ashley deciding that he's ready to sell? Are the fans who stopped going more responsible for his departure than the ones who stayed? Is there anything in it?

 

He obviously panicked otherwise he wouldn't of give away all the season tickets, but, imo the recent developments are all due to the COVID19 crisis. He's bleeding money/share price all over & its fucking glorious. 

 

The way I see it. These talks started before Covid truly kicked off over here, didn't it? If it didn't kick off at all I could see the bid going the same way as all the others but he decided he actually wants the money this time.

[Disco]

Be interested to see how fan stuff resolves itself, roll back to last month and I’d have more contempt for matchgoers (not supporters) than I did when they stood up for en mass for Pards, Carver and of course v Arsenal opening day when so many went to back Mike.

[Charlies]

I fancy opening a can of worms. To what extent are the supporters accountable for Ashley deciding that he's ready to sell? Are the fans who stopped going more responsible for his departure than the ones who stayed? Is there anything in it?

 

He obviously panicked otherwise he wouldn't of give away all the season tickets, but, imo the recent developments are all due to the COVID19 crisis. He's bleeding money/share price all over & its f***ing glorious. 

 

The way I see it. These talks started before Covid truly kicked off over here, didn't it? If it didn't kick off at all I could see the bid going the same way as all the others but he decided he actually wants the money this time.

 

I agree, these talks have been going on for a fair while if the press are to be believed. I just think Covid has finally,  fucking finally, forced his hand. Fuck the fat cunt even if he lives another 20 years I'll still celebrate the day he crokes, and I couldn't give a fuck what the makes me seem like.

[Miggys First Goal]

Caught a brief glimpse when they were going through the headlines on Sunday Supplement that he’s looking to invest in an EFL club.

[Pons Alias]

https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/mike-ashley-looking-to-invest-in-an-efl-club.1515025/

[BlueStar]

[Thorpinho]

It's an interesting question about fan impact and the way in which each section of the fanbase interprets things, particularly in the long term.

 

As a boycotter/protester i like the idea that my actions influenced him, but deep down the sensible part of me knows they didn't and that he sold an asset to realise cash at a time of financial difficulty separate from football.

 

If hypothetically we become extremely successful say in 10 years time under new owners, how will I and others like me reflect on it? I can certainly see the temptation to try and gloat/take some credit, and to resent those who in my eyes did nothing. But equally you can see the more traditional football narrative of the matchgoers in 10 years time saying 'i stuck with the club through thick and thin'. I don't really ever see that divide and argument going away amongst the fanbase and will likely be a lasting legacy of fat mike's reign - especially if we enter into a succesful era.

[Darth Crooks]

It's an interesting question about fan impact and the way in which each section of the fanbase interprets things, particularly in the long term.

 

As a boycotter/protester i like the idea that my actions influenced him, but deep down the sensible part of me knows they didn't and that he sold an asset to realise cash at a time of financial difficulty separate from football.

 

If hypothetically we become extremely successful say in 10 years time under new owners, how will I and others like me reflect on it? I can certainly see the temptation to try and gloat/take some credit, and to resent those who in my eyes did nothing. But equally you can see the more traditional football narrative of the matchgoers in 10 years time saying 'i stuck with the club through thick and thin'. I don't really ever see that divide and argument going away amongst the fanbase and will likely be a lasting legacy of fat mike's reign - especially if we enter into a succesful era.

 

Probably. For me whether it was the actions that forced his or not isn’t really the hill worth dying on - it was the right fight to have at the time and and gave them pause for thought however fleeting. They reacted directly enough to protest each time in some small way. The thick and thin narrative was I’ve no doubt a reason Ashley bought us in the first place. He’s proved that you debase the club and product and people would still pile in a surround the ad boards’ ahl wi smilin faces’ for the most part. Absolute parasite and whatever I think about the new lads( ?????)will be glad to see the back of him

[Stifler]

https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/mike-ashley-looking-to-invest-in-an-efl-club.1515025/

I’m surprised at how many on their don’t want him.

So it turns out that he is a dickhead and bad owner after all?

[Yorkie]

It's an interesting question about fan impact and the way in which each section of the fanbase interprets things, particularly in the long term.

 

As a boycotter/protester i like the idea that my actions influenced him, but deep down the sensible part of me knows they didn't and that he sold an asset to realise cash at a time of financial difficulty separate from football.

 

If hypothetically we become extremely successful say in 10 years time under new owners, how will I and others like me reflect on it? I can certainly see the temptation to try and gloat/take some credit, and to resent those who in my eyes did nothing. But equally you can see the more traditional football narrative of the matchgoers in 10 years time saying 'i stuck with the club through thick and thin'. I don't really ever see that divide and argument going away amongst the fanbase and will likely be a lasting legacy of fat mike's reign - especially if we enter into a succesful era.

 

Think that sums it up really well but the part in bold is kinda why I posed the question, really. I had a vision of us going through a rough patch in however many years' time and debating with someone about how they "stuck with them through thick and thin;" when I feel absolutely unmoved that if you were 'thick-and-thinning' during peak Pardew doldrums or this season; you've no right to offer that as a reason to feel proud or vindicated.

 

Not a battle worth fighting of course, assuming the takeover is completed and the competitive sporting intention returns, therefore renewing the common interest across the majority of the fanbase.

[Stifler]

It's an interesting question about fan impact and the way in which each section of the fanbase interprets things, particularly in the long term.

 

As a boycotter/protester i like the idea that my actions influenced him, but deep down the sensible part of me knows they didn't and that he sold an asset to realise cash at a time of financial difficulty separate from football.

 

If hypothetically we become extremely successful say in 10 years time under new owners, how will I and others like me reflect on it? I can certainly see the temptation to try and gloat/take some credit, and to resent those who in my eyes did nothing. But equally you can see the more traditional football narrative of the matchgoers in 10 years time saying 'i stuck with the club through thick and thin'. I don't really ever see that divide and argument going away amongst the fanbase and will likely be a lasting legacy of fat mike's reign - especially if we enter into a succesful era.

 

Think that sums it up really well but the part in bold is kinda why I posed the question, really. I had a vision of us going through a rough patch in however many years' time and debating with someone about how they "stuck with them through thick and thin;" when I feel absolutely unmoved that if you were 'thick-and-thinning' during peak Pardew doldrums or this season; you've no right to offer that as a reason to feel proud or vindicated.

 

Not a battle worth fighting of course, assuming the takeover is completed and the competitive sporting intention returns, therefore renewing the common interest across the majority of the fanbase.

The thing is though I stuck with the club through thick and thin, but have my season ticket up in the summer.

Did I still support them and want them to do well? Yes, I just felt that the only way that would happen is with the removal of Ashley. Sticking by them doesn’t automatically mean still attending games, it means striving for the better good.

 

If we become successful in 10 years time and have a thought patch then yes, any glory hunters who we gained will likely fuck off. In all honesty though, anyone who starts supporting us simply because they are following success, can’t really be classed as a true fan can they? At least not if their support is contingent on success.

[danny]

https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/mike-ashley-looking-to-invest-in-an-efl-club.1515025/

 

:lol: twats enjoy league 1