Sibierski Posted Wednesday at 14:41 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:41 I always feel someone like Ashley will be good for a club who’s failing in championship. He’s a gambling man, and will want prem football because of the revenues that gives and the advertisement exposure. So in the short term would look to get into that league as soon as he can and spend to do it. Long term, the club will feel the pain as others invest in their infrastructure and position themselves better longer term (he won’t), but if fans just want to get up and happy to be just a number and potentially yo-yo, there’s worse owners. There’s also the trade off that if the short term gamble doesn’t work, he would cut the cloth accordingly and club would be a shell in the championship that’s even worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted Wednesday at 14:46 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:46 1 hour ago, GeordieDazzler said: Christ the venom towards us on here https://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/338395-do-we-really-want-mike-ashley/#comments Nice to see some of the Newcastle myths are still going strong. "Made some mistakes when he took over Newcastle (Kinnear/Pardew) but put them on a strong financial footing and definitely left them in a better place than he found them. He's a detestable person though (I've been in a couple of meetings with him) but as a businessman he's absolutely first class" Yeah, buying a football club for millions of pounds without doing due diligence and making business deals while so mortal he's been throwing up in the fireplace, a regular fucking John D Rockefeller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted Wednesday at 14:48 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:48 3 hours ago, Fak said: What a complete no-nothing-cunt. Christ. Probably engagement bait though as usual with twitter these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted Wednesday at 14:52 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:52 (edited) Derby don't have the pull we had, as well as the obvious gulf in quality between our squad back then and the rest of the Championship. There's 6-7 billionaire owners down there atm, and the 3 going down have billionaire owners too. His wealth isn't enough to shoot them up the league in isolation. Edited Wednesday at 14:53 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted Wednesday at 15:00 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:00 5 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Derby don't have the pull we had, as well as the obvious gulf in quality between our squad back then and the rest of the Championship. There's 6-7 billionaire owners down there atm, and the 3 going down have billionaire owners too. His wealth isn't enough to shoot them up the league in isolation. No, you're right, his wealth alone isn't enough to drive them to the top of the Championship. However, with enough desire, some substantial, well-targeted investment, and hiring experienced staff in key positions he could.... yeah, they'll be down there forever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted Wednesday at 15:17 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:17 (edited) 2 hours ago, GeordieDazzler said: Christ the venom towards us on here https://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/338395-do-we-really-want-mike-ashley/#comments Nice to see some of the Newcastle myths are still going strong. This one is my favourite: Quote He’ll invest in the ground he’ll invest in training facilities he’ll invest in youth setup he will invest what he has to in the 1st team. No more no less than he absolutely has to. He’ll stop the club losing money left right and centre He will find investments He will find good sponsorship And he will probably find a buyer in the future to take us even further forward whilst making a pretty penny himself. Horrible man but knows how to stabilise a sinking ship ger him in Edited Wednesday at 15:30 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted Wednesday at 15:20 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:20 i wish i could be this ignorant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted Wednesday at 15:21 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:21 (edited) 1 hour ago, McDog said: Yea, when they fired Cabbage I went on the WBA board and one lad said "The Geordies tried to warn us, they tried. We didn't listen and we should have." When an entire fanbase deeply hates someone, barely without any exception, they usually have a very good reason. No clue why so many fans of other clubs has such a hard time comprehending that. Edited Wednesday at 15:33 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted Wednesday at 15:23 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:23 2 promotions Is that guy mentally ill? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted Wednesday at 15:23 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:23 (edited) If another club's fan has read/listened to what our fan base have to say about him and still think he'd be good for them then more power to them. His methods won't be any better suited to a Championship team than they were to us in the PL. The plastering of his company's ads for free, cutting of costs, lack of infrastructure investment will just have them fall behind their Championship contemporaries like he made us fall behind ours. Anyone that wants their club run as a 'business' by a 'businessman' who couldn't increase our commercial revenue in an era where every single club's income skyrocketed from just sitting on their hands, is more than welcome to the soulless bastard. Edited Wednesday at 15:40 by wormy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted Wednesday at 15:29 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:29 11 minutes ago, Erikse said: This one is my favourite: someone should sign up and post the wheelie bin ice baths Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted Wednesday at 15:31 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:31 Hahahaha, daft cunts. Let them learn the hard way what it is to be a club owned by Mike Ashley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted Wednesday at 15:31 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:31 13 minutes ago, Erikse said: This one is my favourite: Hopefully he'll take them out of the football league altogether. No sympathy for anyone who hasn't got the common sense to listen to our ENTIRE fan base about Mike Ashley. They deserve everything that he will do to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted Wednesday at 15:34 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:34 "You've got to look at the expectations of the fans, Newcastle fans say he failed them but their expectations are ridiculous. They expect to be challenging for he premier league every year and playing in the champions league" This corker is from a poster named "northeastowl"... wonder if they're on there in peyce 🤔 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted Wednesday at 15:42 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:42 TBF he did put that 22inch TV up on the concrete wall in level 7. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted Wednesday at 15:43 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:43 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Elric said: "You've got to look at the expectations of the fans, Newcastle fans say he failed them but their expectations are ridiculous. They expect to be challenging for he premier league every year and playing in the champions league" This corker is from a poster named "northeastowl"... wonder if they're on there in peyce 🤔 The irony is we basically are now...because he's gone. Just as we were BEFORE he came. Edited Wednesday at 15:43 by Skeletor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted Wednesday at 15:45 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:45 1 hour ago, Sibierski said: I always feel someone like Ashley will be good for a club who’s failing in championship. He’s a gambling man, and will want prem football because of the revenues that gives and the advertisement exposure. So in the short term would look to get into that league as soon as he can and spend to do it. Long term, the club will feel the pain as others invest in their infrastructure and position themselves better longer term (he won’t), but if fans just want to get up and happy to be just a number and potentially yo-yo, there’s worse owners. There’s also the trade off that if the short term gamble doesn’t work, he would cut the cloth accordingly and club would be a shell in the championship that’s even worse. My feelings to.. for a club in trouble like Wednesday he's perfect for what they need this next few years.. a ambitious Wednesday in the Premier league he's a disaster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUICE690 Posted Wednesday at 15:49 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:49 Had a quick look on their forum. Weird how folk will spin when all the evidence points to the contrary. I mean, this is just utter bullshit: He’ll invest in the ground he’ll invest in training facilities he’ll invest in youth setup he will invest what he has to in the 1st team. No more no less than he absolutely has to. He’ll stop the club losing money left right and centre He will find investments He will find good sponsorship And he will probably find a buyer in the future to take us even further forward whilst making a pretty penny himself. Horrible man but knows how to stabilise a sinking ship https://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/338395-do-we-really-want-mike-ashley/#comments Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted Wednesday at 15:49 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:49 Mike Ashley isn't perfect for any football club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted Wednesday at 15:53 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:53 3 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Mike Ashley isn't perfect for any football club Quoted for factually accurate statement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted Wednesday at 15:59 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:59 3 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I never get that at all. Surely the people you should listen to are fans who experienced the guy for 15 years? Fair enough when he was unknown, I thought he sounded like a good owner too. It's like still giving Steve Bruce management jobs. They just want hope. Can’t argue with that really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted Wednesday at 16:00 Share Posted Wednesday at 16:00 Just now, gdm said: They just want hope. Can’t argue with that really Ashley isn't hope. If you want hope you have to be able to listen to those who warn you away from a hope destroyer like Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted Wednesday at 16:01 Share Posted Wednesday at 16:01 43 minutes ago, Erikse said: This one is my favourite: 2/8 isn't that bad tbf to him, could be worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted Wednesday at 16:03 Share Posted Wednesday at 16:03 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Skeletor said: Ashley isn't hope. If you want hope you have to be able to listen to those who warn you away from a hope destroyer like Ashley. They want anyone who isn’t the guy that’s currently there just like a lot of Newcastle fans would want anyone that wasn’t Mike Ashley. Doesn’t mean they are right but they want hope that it won’t be as bad as the guy they currently have and in that desperation for hope they are willing to ignore the huge warning signs. thats all it is desperation and hope. We are just fortune we hit the jackpot when we got rid of Ashley Edited Wednesday at 16:05 by gdm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted Wednesday at 16:03 Share Posted Wednesday at 16:03 Can someone join up there and post the pics of the ice bath wheelie bins and The Gallowgate pigeon. There’s also a quote somewhere where he states he’ll not put another penny into the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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