Skeletor Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Elric said: "You've got to look at the expectations of the fans, Newcastle fans say he failed them but their expectations are ridiculous. They expect to be challenging for he premier league every year and playing in the champions league" This corker is from a poster named "northeastowl"... wonder if they're on there in peyce 🤔 The irony is we basically are now...because he's gone. Just as we were BEFORE he came. Edited April 16 by Skeletor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, Sibierski said: I always feel someone like Ashley will be good for a club who’s failing in championship. He’s a gambling man, and will want prem football because of the revenues that gives and the advertisement exposure. So in the short term would look to get into that league as soon as he can and spend to do it. Long term, the club will feel the pain as others invest in their infrastructure and position themselves better longer term (he won’t), but if fans just want to get up and happy to be just a number and potentially yo-yo, there’s worse owners. There’s also the trade off that if the short term gamble doesn’t work, he would cut the cloth accordingly and club would be a shell in the championship that’s even worse. My feelings to.. for a club in trouble like Wednesday he's perfect for what they need this next few years.. a ambitious Wednesday in the Premier league he's a disaster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUICE690 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Had a quick look on their forum. Weird how folk will spin when all the evidence points to the contrary. I mean, this is just utter bullshit: He’ll invest in the ground he’ll invest in training facilities he’ll invest in youth setup he will invest what he has to in the 1st team. No more no less than he absolutely has to. He’ll stop the club losing money left right and centre He will find investments He will find good sponsorship And he will probably find a buyer in the future to take us even further forward whilst making a pretty penny himself. Horrible man but knows how to stabilise a sinking ship https://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/338395-do-we-really-want-mike-ashley/#comments Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Mike Ashley isn't perfect for any football club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 3 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Mike Ashley isn't perfect for any football club Quoted for factually accurate statement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 3 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I never get that at all. Surely the people you should listen to are fans who experienced the guy for 15 years? Fair enough when he was unknown, I thought he sounded like a good owner too. It's like still giving Steve Bruce management jobs. They just want hope. Can’t argue with that really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Just now, gdm said: They just want hope. Can’t argue with that really Ashley isn't hope. If you want hope you have to be able to listen to those who warn you away from a hope destroyer like Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 43 minutes ago, Erikse said: This one is my favourite: 2/8 isn't that bad tbf to him, could be worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Skeletor said: Ashley isn't hope. If you want hope you have to be able to listen to those who warn you away from a hope destroyer like Ashley. They want anyone who isn’t the guy that’s currently there just like a lot of Newcastle fans would want anyone that wasn’t Mike Ashley. Doesn’t mean they are right but they want hope that it won’t be as bad as the guy they currently have and in that desperation for hope they are willing to ignore the huge warning signs. thats all it is desperation and hope. We are just fortune we hit the jackpot when we got rid of Ashley Edited April 16 by gdm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Can someone join up there and post the pics of the ice bath wheelie bins and The Gallowgate pigeon. There’s also a quote somewhere where he states he’ll not put another penny into the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 41 minutes ago, Skeletor said: 2 promotions Is that guy mentally ill? Conveniently forgetting 2 relegations Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 minute ago, gdm said: They want anyone who isn’t the guy that’s currently there just like a lot of Newcastle fans would want anyone that wasn’t Mike Ashley. Doesn’t mean they are right but they want hope that it won’t be as bad as the guy they currently have I don't know anyone who would have just swapped Ashley for any old chancer like. We'd have swapped him for anyone with a hint of ambition, regardless of wealth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Get in, I'm two years away from finally flogging the last of these GUESS WHO WINS AGAIN" t-shirts I have in storage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: I don't know anyone who would have just swapped Ashley for any old chancer like. We'd have swapped him for anyone with a hint of ambition, regardless of wealth. Away you go man, this place and Twitter lapped up every takeover rumour there was. There is a difference between the Malaysian mob Chopra fronted and someone with proven money like Ashley. People were crying out for that Moat guy and Kenyon and many more even fuckin Vince McMahon ffs Edited April 16 by gdm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 2 minutes ago, gdm said: Away you go man, this place and Twitter lapped up every takeover rumour there was. There is a difference between the Malaysian mob Chopra fronted and someone with proven money like Ashley. People were crying out for that Moat guy and Kenyon and many more even fuckin Vince McMahon ffs Vince McMahon was just for the memes man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) 1 minute ago, Skeletor said: Vince McMahon was just for the memes man I was joking about that one. All I’m saying is we know Ashley is a cunt but I also understand the desperation of Wednesday fans Edited April 16 by gdm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 51 minutes ago, JT24 said: i wish i could be this ignorant I think they call it the curse of intelligence or similar. Must be bliss to just meander through life without a clue or even the instinct to do a modicum of looking beyond your own arse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 2 minutes ago, gdm said: I was joking about that one. All I’m saying is we know Ashley is a cunt but I also understand the desperation of Wednesday fans I understand that. But what are the odds an entire fan base is wrong about Ashley (when results since he left - Champions League and a first trophy in 70 years prove that in fact we are completely correct)? There has to be an element of rationality here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 5 minutes ago, gdm said: Away you go man, this place and Twitter lapped up every takeover rumour there was. There is a difference between the Malaysian mob Chopra fronted and someone with proven money like Ashley. People were crying out for that Moat guy and Kenyon and many more even fuckin Vince McMahon ffs So if the Venkys were linked you think this forum would be full of people pulling their end off and calling Blackburn fans deluded? Vince McMahon was a mad pipe dream that you could have imagined being some sort of crazy WWE inspired super club - obviously it was no sense but there's at least something for your inner child to play with. How is that remotely the same as a failed former football club owner with a history of filtering money out of the club and put nothing in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Just now, Skeletor said: I understand that. But what are the odds an entire fan base is wrong about Ashley (when results since he left - Champions League and a first trophy in 70 years prove that in fact we are completely correct)? There has to be an element of rationality here. I agree but aren’t Wednesday properly in the shit. Like close to administration/going out of business kinda shit. That’s next level desperation. I should know my hometown club Airdrie went out of business and I’ve never seen my dad so crushed until they found a way back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: So if the Venkys were linked you think this forum would be full of people pulling their end off and calling Blackburn fans deluded? Vince McMahon was a mad pipe dream that you could have imagined being some sort of crazy WWE inspired super club - obviously it was no sense but there's at least something for your inner child to play with. How is that remotely the same as a failed former football club owner with a history of filtering money out of the club and put nothing in? you are equating premier league affluent Saudi attracting Newcastle United to the same level of thinking as Championship struggling unable to pay their players Sheffield Wednesday. if you gave them a choice Venkys or no buyer & owner pulls the plug and puts them out of business they’d pick the venkys every day. It’s the nature of desperation. Is Mike Ashley a shit owner? Absolutely. Can I understand some Wednesday fans willing to ignore the red flags for their club to survive? Absolutely. Edited April 16 by gdm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 4 minutes ago, gdm said: you are equating premier league affluent Saudi attracting Newcastle United to the same level of thinking as Championship struggling unable to pay their players Sheffield Wednesday. if you gave them a choice Venkys or no buyer & owner pulls the plug and puts them out of business they’d pick the venkys every day. It’s the nature of desperation I think we all agree they're desperate. But I certainly don't agree with them turning a blind eye to his infinite cunt flaws and the blank sheet that is his positives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 3 minutes ago, gdm said: you are equating premier league affluent Saudi attracting Newcastle United to the same level of thinking as Championship struggling unable to pay their players Sheffield Wednesday. if you gave them a choice Venkys or no buyer & owner pulls the plug and puts them out of business they’d pick the venkys every day. It’s the nature of desperation They aren't saying the equivalent of "I would take the Venky's over liquidation" they're saying "The Blackburn fans are just deluded, the Venky's would be perfect for us, just what we need!" Hence people are taking the piss out of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Just now, Skeletor said: I think we all agree they're desperate. But I certainly don't agree with them turning a blind eye to his infinite cunt flaws and the blank sheet that is his positives. we are going off one guys twitter post here tbf who may or may not have been on a wind up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 42 minutes ago, JUICE690 said: he’ll invest in training facilities Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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