Mike Ashley (former owner) (still alive)

[Elliottman]

Sounds like he’s talking bout the Rafa situation

 

He says in the thread it’s not about Rafa.

[LV]

Sounds like he’s talking bout the Rafa situation

 

He says in the thread it’s not about Rafa.

 

Sounds like he knows of another bid.

[Odear]

Maybe Ashley leaked the deal knowing it was far from complete. Hoping to flush out any other interested party and get a bidding war going.

 

If he signed an nda, it’s hard to prove it was him if that weasel from the sun doesn’t reveal his sources.

[Decky]

Cant believe Wenger's name is touted about still. He's absolutely done in club management, especially for a long term project that this will be if it goes through. He's just too old.

[Heake]

Assuming the timeline is correct, I read it that having went through DD & all that malarkey over 6 weeks ago, Ashley has stalled & is fucking about (Maybe to court more bids?).

 

The response from BZG to go public would seem to me the response I would expect if one felt the need to stimulate the proposed deal which had lost traction due to Ashleys cuntishnes.   

[Anderson]

Doesn't really add up when he's doubling down saying everything's signed and awaiting PL approval.

[ToonArmy1892]

I need more news 

[Tiresias]

I heard Wenger wants a sporting director role rather than management?

[Sean]

The issue is the adamant nature of the BZG and those over in the UAE being contradicted by patter from the local journalists other than the bloke at the S*n. Our local journalists have either absolutely no clue, or have absolutely no clue and are being dicks about it which doesn't help the mood amongst fans on social media. Their 'sources' likely have no clue about issues such as negotiations of a takeover and are giving just their gut feelings similar to what many posters are saying in this thread; not making anything clearer and throwing everything up in the air. Just stick to what we know: they want the club, Ashley wants to sell, due diligence has happened, heads of terms have been submitted. Now we wait for the next update, good or bad. There seems to be an outright desire to have updates on minutiae regarding all this and that just won't happen. Bet if there are no updates within 2 days, there'll be at least one post about it either not definitely not happening or how iTs AlL kEiTh BiShOp Pr SpIn. Because that mong is definitely the sort to have ties to Emirati royalty.

 

HaydnNUFC. Common sense, well said. This could be a multi million pound takeover of a large business. These deals take months, are not conducted in the press, in public or with hourly or even daily updates. Sure, we all want to know if it's real, if it will it happen, when it will happen, but we are not going to know until it's done. If it gets done. Journos are guessing, we are guessing and hoping. In reality we all know bugger all really. We need to be patient, not listen to or read speculative crap. However difficult it might be!

 

How do we actually know that Ashley wants to sell? That's not one of the facts in this.

 

Exactly. It's all well and good talking 'normal business deals' but this is Ashley. We've been here multiple times before, and it's never once ended well. I don't get how people are just casually assuming it'll happen how we all want it to.

[Sean]

Check out @justinallen1976’s Tweet:

 

Not one of those facts is verifiable.

 

Also, all it actually suggests is that BZG know the price. They haven't paid for the club. "That paperwork" just refers to a bit of paper passed to the league stating the price agreed. Theres no requirement for the sale to happen at all. Anyone could sign that bit of paper.

 

That is if those FACTS are actually facts.

 

If it were any other club I'd say it would happen, but us? No chance.

[mrmojorisin75]

Check out @justinallen1976’s Tweet:

 

Not one of those facts is verifiable.

 

Also, all it actually suggests is that BZG know the price. They haven't paid for the club. "That paperwork" just refers to a bit of paper passed to the league stating the price agreed. Theres no requirement for the sale to happen at all. Anyone could sign that bit of paper.

 

That is if those FACTS are actually facts.

 

If it were any other club I'd say it would happen, but us? No chance.

 

Imma keep tweeting him asking how he knows they're facts.

 

That said that's my only worry, I'm not interested in getting bogged down in semantics and future scenarios where Ashley torpedoes the deal. For me if they've written the agreement, provided proof of funds and details are with the PL as this lad is claiming then it's done.

[Unbelievable]

Check out @justinallen1976’s Tweet:

 

Not one of those facts is verifiable.

 

Also, all it actually suggests is that BZG know the price. They haven't paid for the club. "That paperwork" just refers to a bit of paper passed to the league stating the price agreed. Theres no requirement for the sale to happen at all. Anyone could sign that bit of paper.

 

That is if those FACTS are actually facts.

 

If it were any other club I'd say it would happen, but us? No chance.

 

Imma keep tweeting him asking how he knows they're facts.

 

That said that's my only worry, I'm not interested in getting bogged down in semantics and future scenarios where Ashley torpedoes the deal. For me if they've written the agreement, provided proof of funds and details are with the PL as this lad is claiming then it's done.

 

I disagree that none of the facts is verifiable; they all are if you have access to the evidence, which this Sun journalist may well have had through whomever leaked the story to him. If the PL has in its possession a head of terms document in which a price is agreed and which has been signed by Ashley and the other party than that's where we are (and according to the second statement have been for 6 weeks) and if this bloke has seen the document or seen credible evidence of its existence why should he not be allowed to state these are the facts. Because other journalists and fans don't have the access level he does and are bitter/anxious about it? If he has seen the evidence people being cynical about it/him doesn't change the facts, does it? We know his version of events has been validated in two separate statements from the buyer, which adds significant weight to his claims. My worry is not if these claims are true or not (they most probably are), but what progress has or hasn't been made since. We've been here before with Ashley, multiple times, although perhaps not quite this far. I won't be able to believe the club has been freed from Ashley's shackles until I read the club statement confirming it.

[Guest godzilla]

Check out @justinallen1976’s Tweet:

 

Not one of those facts is verifiable.

 

Also, all it actually suggests is that BZG know the price. They haven't paid for the club. "That paperwork" just refers to a bit of paper passed to the league stating the price agreed. Theres no requirement for the sale to happen at all. Anyone could sign that bit of paper.

 

That is if those FACTS are actually facts.

 

If it were any other club I'd say it would happen, but us? No chance.

 

Guessing again you don't know what's been submitted.

[Toon Hoser]

Boring.

 

[Guest The Little Waster]

Just a reminder ... the original Sun article starts with these words : " SunSport understands " ...

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Just a reminder ... the original Sun article starts with these words : " SunSport understands " ...

 

Well yeah, that’s why nobody is deep in their takeover bath yet.

[RS]

Top line story on NUFC.com tells you everything you need to know.

[Guest godzilla]

Just a reminder ... the original Sun article starts with these words : " SunSport understands " ...

 

and then within one day they stated confirmed by the group, which is where we stand unless something else official is released.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

The silence isn’t a bad thing for me, if anything it’s a positive.

[STM]

The silence isn’t a bad thing for me, if anything it’s a positive.

 

Yep.

[Sean]

Check out @justinallen1976’s Tweet:

 

Not one of those facts is verifiable.

 

Also, all it actually suggests is that BZG know the price. They haven't paid for the club. "That paperwork" just refers to a bit of paper passed to the league stating the price agreed. Theres no requirement for the sale to happen at all. Anyone could sign that bit of paper.

 

That is if those FACTS are actually facts.

 

If it were any other club I'd say it would happen, but us? No chance.

 

Imma keep tweeting him asking how he knows they're facts.

 

That said that's my only worry, I'm not interested in getting bogged down in semantics and future scenarios where Ashley torpedoes the deal. For me if they've written the agreement, provided proof of funds and details are with the PL as this lad is claiming then it's done.

 

I disagree that none of the facts is verifiable; they all are if you have access to the evidence, which this Sun journalist may well have had through whomever leaked the story to him. If the PL has in its possession a head of terms document in which a price is agreed and which has been signed by Ashley and the other party than that's where we are (and according to the second statement have been for 6 weeks) and if this bloke has seen the document or seen credible evidence of its existence why should he not be allowed to state these are the facts. Because other journalists and fans don't have the access level he does and are bitter/anxious about it? If he has seen the evidence people being cynical about it/him doesn't change the facts, does it? We know his version of events has been validated in two separate statements from the buyer, which adds significant weight to his claims. My worry is not if these claims are true or not (they most probably are), but what progress has or hasn't been made since. We've been here before with Ashley, multiple times, although perhaps not quite this far. I won't be able to believe the club has been freed from Ashley's shackles until I read the club statement confirming it.

 

Even if they are facts it doesn't mean we're getting sold unfortunately, just means both parties have agreed on a price.

 

IF they have provided proof of funds AND agreed a price, it should be a formality.

 

I just don't believe this to be the case. It never is that simple with us (read, Ashley).

[Guest chopey]

I think the stars are aligning, Ashley is looking for cash, he has took back his loans from us and can now sell and make a tidy profit. It looks like he will screw us over on the land behind the Gallowgate but whats the betting the land becomes available if our new owners are looking to expand, it wouldn't surprise me if he took over another club though.

[STM]

Check out @justinallen1976’s Tweet:

 

Not one of those facts is verifiable.

 

Also, all it actually suggests is that BZG know the price. They haven't paid for the club. "That paperwork" just refers to a bit of paper passed to the league stating the price agreed. Theres no requirement for the sale to happen at all. Anyone could sign that bit of paper.

 

That is if those FACTS are actually facts.

 

If it were any other club I'd say it would happen, but us? No chance.

 

Imma keep tweeting him asking how he knows they're facts.

 

That said that's my only worry, I'm not interested in getting bogged down in semantics and future scenarios where Ashley torpedoes the deal. For me if they've written the agreement, provided proof of funds and details are with the PL as this lad is claiming then it's done.

 

I disagree that none of the facts is verifiable; they all are if you have access to the evidence, which this Sun journalist may well have had through whomever leaked the story to him. If the PL has in its possession a head of terms document in which a price is agreed and which has been signed by Ashley and the other party than that's where we are (and according to the second statement have been for 6 weeks) and if this bloke has seen the document or seen credible evidence of its existence why should he not be allowed to state these are the facts. Because other journalists and fans don't have the access level he does and are bitter/anxious about it? If he has seen the evidence people being cynical about it/him doesn't change the facts, does it? We know his version of events has been validated in two separate statements from the buyer, which adds significant weight to his claims. My worry is not if these claims are true or not (they most probably are), but what progress has or hasn't been made since. We've been here before with Ashley, multiple times, although perhaps not quite this far. I won't be able to believe the club has been freed from Ashley's shackles until I read the club statement confirming it.

 

Even if they are facts it doesn't mean we're getting sold unfortunately, just means both parties have agreed on a price.

 

IF they have provided proof of funds AND agreed a price, it should be a formality.

 

I just don't believe this to be the case. It never is that simple with us (read, Ashley).

 

Your whole arguement is, "we have MA, therefore good things wont happen." While that is understandable, admirable even, it's going in the face of the said evidence.

 

Of course, you dispute the evidence but it makes it very hard to have a rational conversation with you, as you just say "I dont believe that," or "what about last time."

 

Ultimately, none of us "know" how far along this thing is, and all of us are sceptical to varying degrees. All I will say is, dont trample on peoples hope, because whether it goes through or not, just for a moment i am enjoying the fantasy of having MA gone, and I'm entitled to do that.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Yeah of course, I’m not saying it won’t collapse and I’m ready if it does. Just looks positive, so far.

[Sean]

Check out @justinallen1976’s Tweet:

 

Not one of those facts is verifiable.

 

Also, all it actually suggests is that BZG know the price. They haven't paid for the club. "That paperwork" just refers to a bit of paper passed to the league stating the price agreed. Theres no requirement for the sale to happen at all. Anyone could sign that bit of paper.

 

That is if those FACTS are actually facts.

 

If it were any other club I'd say it would happen, but us? No chance.

 

Imma keep tweeting him asking how he knows they're facts.

 

That said that's my only worry, I'm not interested in getting bogged down in semantics and future scenarios where Ashley torpedoes the deal. For me if they've written the agreement, provided proof of funds and details are with the PL as this lad is claiming then it's done.

 

I disagree that none of the facts is verifiable; they all are if you have access to the evidence, which this Sun journalist may well have had through whomever leaked the story to him. If the PL has in its possession a head of terms document in which a price is agreed and which has been signed by Ashley and the other party than that's where we are (and according to the second statement have been for 6 weeks) and if this bloke has seen the document or seen credible evidence of its existence why should he not be allowed to state these are the facts. Because other journalists and fans don't have the access level he does and are bitter/anxious about it? If he has seen the evidence people being cynical about it/him doesn't change the facts, does it? We know his version of events has been validated in two separate statements from the buyer, which adds significant weight to his claims. My worry is not if these claims are true or not (they most probably are), but what progress has or hasn't been made since. We've been here before with Ashley, multiple times, although perhaps not quite this far. I won't be able to believe the club has been freed from Ashley's shackles until I read the club statement confirming it.

 

Even if they are facts it doesn't mean we're getting sold unfortunately, just means both parties have agreed on a price.

 

IF they have provided proof of funds AND agreed a price, it should be a formality.

 

I just don't believe this to be the case. It never is that simple with us (read, Ashley).

 

Your whole arguement is, "we have MA, therefore good things wont happen." While that is understandable, admirable even, it's going in the face of the said evidence.

 

Of course, you dispute the evidence but it makes it very hard to have a rational conversation with you, as you just say "I dont believe that," or "what about last time."

 

Ultimately, none of us "know" how far along this thing is, and all of us are sceptical to varying degrees. All I will say is, dont trample on peoples hope, because whether it goes through or not, just for a moment i am enjoying the fantasy of having MA gone, and I'm entitled to do that.

 

I'm not stopping you enjoying your fantasy, I'm just waiting for actual proof.