Sean Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Interesting that Caulkin has tweeted that the BZG story was bollocks from the start, but this one is not. BZG was clearly bollocks from the start. That loon on WhatsApp. Those vague statements that led some fools to believe they had signed a sales and purchase agreement. The way the story broke as "NUFC have been sold!!" when they hadn't been. The love letter to Mike to end it all. It was comedy gold. Initially we all fell for it though Not everyone did. A few got pelters on here for being pessimistic. Even when it didn't happen people were saying only conspiracy theorists and nut jobs would believe it was complete bollocks, most preferring to believe it was all real but they just couldn't agree to what Ashley wanted. Now Caulkin has confirmed it was all bullshit from the start. As a blind man should have been able to tell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Interesting that Caulkin has tweeted that the BZG story was bollocks from the start, but this one is not. BZG was clearly bollocks from the start. That loon on WhatsApp. Those vague statements that led some fools to believe they had signed a sales and purchase agreement. The way the story broke as "NUFC have been sold!!" when they hadn't been. The love letter to Mike to end it all. It was comedy gold. You clearly enjoy letting everyone know how clever you are, so I'll just go back on that SPA comment- which was in a comment from me (although I can't find it). There was discussion about what a 'deal' could have meant (given the initial report was out of the blue claiming it was all done and only awaiting PL verification- and clearly the journo who vouched for his story was sold entirely duff info). I was trying to make some sense of the story and have brought it up on several occasions like I was claiming some kind of ITK knowledge. So are you calling me a fool? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Interesting that Caulkin has tweeted that the BZG story was bollocks from the start, but this one is not. BZG was clearly bollocks from the start. That loon on WhatsApp. Those vague statements that led some fools to believe they had signed a sales and purchase agreement. The way the story broke as "NUFC have been sold!!" when they hadn't been. The love letter to Mike to end it all. It was comedy gold. Initially we all fell for it though Not everyone did. A few got pelters on here for being pessimistic. Even when it didn't happen people were saying only conspiracy theorists and nut jobs would believe it was complete bollocks, most preferring to believe it was all real but they just couldn't agree to what Ashley wanted. Now Caulkin has confirmed it was all bullshit from the start. As a blind man should have been able to tell. Not really interested in discussing this, but I disagree. BZG released a statement and the club pretty much confirmed it, If I remember correctly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 We know there's a highly-interested party. Caulkin says the 250k has already been paid. Can we just let them get on with it? He said he understands that it's been paid. Ever such a subtle difference but it's evidence again that no one knows anything for certain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Interesting that Caulkin has tweeted that the BZG story was bollocks from the start, but this one is not. BZG was clearly bollocks from the start. That loon on WhatsApp. Those vague statements that led some fools to believe they had signed a sales and purchase agreement. The way the story broke as "NUFC have been sold!!" when they hadn't been. The love letter to Mike to end it all. It was comedy gold. Initially we all fell for it though Not everyone did. A few got pelters on here for being pessimistic. Even when it didn't happen people were saying only conspiracy theorists and nut jobs would believe it was complete bollocks, most preferring to believe it was all real but they just couldn't agree to what Ashley wanted. Now Caulkin has confirmed it was all bullshit from the start. As a blind man should have been able to tell. Not really interested in discussing this, but I disagree. BZG released a statement and the club pretty much confirmed it, If I remember correctly. BZG who aren't reputable clearly. And the club. Who as far back as 2009 "admitted to the Tribunal that it repeatedly and intentionally misled the press, public and the fans of Newcastle United." Aye, it always seemed like the logical thing to do was believe it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon No9 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Has there been any actual proof that the saudi bid has failed? Or is it just speculation as usuall? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweMag Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 I live in the belief this club will be sold this time. Much more fun thinking about a potential takeover than watching a clueless Steve Bruce trying to make us play football. I’m not expecting it to be sold though It’s not a fakeover. Confirmed (or understood) both by George Caulkin and Sky Sports due diligence is completed and that this takeover is at an advanced stage. A fee of £250k has been paid. The price is not an issue. Evidence of proof of funds. Some details left. Mike Ashley back in the country. No denial from Amanda Staveley, Mike Ashley, Saudi Arabia or the Reuben brothers. Mike Ashley will never get a better opportunity to sell the club and he knows it. But it’s up to him now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 I really wouldn’t believe anything Sky Sports says so try not to take that as corroboration of other sources. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 SweMag the new Odin? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Has there been any actual proof that the saudi bid has failed? Or is it just speculation as usuall? Has there been any actual proof of anything? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweMag Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 SweMag the new Odin? God no I don’t do Photoshop. I basically don’t believe the takeover will happend but I do believe George Caulkin and I do believe the £250k fee has been paid etc. I really wouldn’t believe anything Sky Sports says so try not to take that as corroboration of other sources. Thanks for your input LV. And I don’t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon No9 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Has there been any actual proof that the saudi bid has failed? Or is it just speculation as usuall? Has there been any actual proof of anything? If nothing of this was true, sure there would have been a denial from anyone of thoose said to be involved. I think it's either Ashley not wanting to sell or work still in progress. If the saudi prince rather would by man utd, why bid for NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 I personally believe that there’s something in this. There are essentially four parties / six high profile names (buying or selling) and I would have expected one of these to say something if it wasn’t true. The reality is that all want to keep it out of the press, and the press have all jumped onto a single story from the WSJ. They all know jack shit. First we’ll hear is through Ashley himself or way or another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Has there been any actual proof that the saudi bid has failed? Or is it just speculation as usuall? Has there been any actual proof of anything? If nothing of this was true, sure there would have been a denial from anyone of thoose said to be involved. I think it's either Ashley not wanting to sell or work still in progress. If the saudi prince rather would by man utd, why bid for NUFC. Because its a way of saying accept my previous offer for Man U or im buying the Geordies instead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 SweMag the new Odin? God no I don’t do Photoshop. I basically don’t believe the takeover will happend but I do believe George Caulkin and I do believe the £250k fee has been paid etc. I really wouldn’t believe anything Sky Sports says so try not to take that as corroboration of other sources. Thanks for your input LV. And I don’t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Has there been any actual proof that the saudi bid has failed? Or is it just speculation as usuall? Has there been any actual proof of anything? If nothing of this was true, sure there would have been a denial from anyone of thoose said to be involved. I think it's either Ashley not wanting to sell or work still in progress. If the saudi prince rather would by man utd, why bid for NUFC. Because its a way of saying accept my previous offer for Man U or im buying the Geordies instead I don’t think there’s owt in a takeover either, however it’s odd that you think there’s something in a rag like the Mirror’s claim that they really want Man Utd yet the WSJ’s article is bull. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montey Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 If supporters want to take action against Ashley they need to realise what the value of NUFC is to Ashley and attack that value. The value that NUFC has to Mike Ashley is all about raising and improving the profile of Sports Direct, the club is a branding and awareness tool (marketing) to raise and improve the profile of Sports Direct. It's a bonus that the club makes Ashley a profit, but that's not the principle value the club presents to Ashley - hence impacting the profitability of the club won't be as effective. If people want to remove Ashley they need to remove the value the club provides to Ashley. This means that where the club provides a positive marketing outcome to Sports Direct today, fans need to attack that marketing value so that it lowers the brand value and sales revenue of Sports Direct. Sports Direct needs to see its association with NUFC as toxic to the Sports Direct brand - this is when Ashley will sell. This is why Ashley has reacted, through player purchases and new managers, when people have started protesting outside of Sports Direct stores. Supporters need to take action to ensure that every Sports Direct sign, advertisement, event, store, etc has a negative message coming from NUFC. This needs to be done with a large amount of energy and persistence so that Ashley knows that this isn't going to blow over and the only way to save Sports Direct is to disconnect it from NUFC. Mike Ashley doesn't give a stuff about NUFC, its failure or success. Mike Ashley only cares that Sports Direct is succeeding and he will react to protect that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartz Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 There is definitely something going on. How advanced it is or will ever get is the issue. It’s clear Ashley will only sell if he “wins” the deal. That’s why it’s been 10 years. No one has agreed to his terms. This current one could be near final stages. I would, say the “leak” that Ashley is so furious about came from him in some way. He uses it as a last minute negotiation tactic to squeeze any extra out of the deal. If he can’t get it then it collapses and he blames leaks and buyers not having a pot to piss in. There is no way we get a clean break. He will want sponsorship deals for a certain amount of time. Or to still have the club shop as an SD shop. Or who knows what else. Someone will have to give in to his demands somewhat and we will have to deal with his fat ghost hanging around for several years after any sale. Which I would gladly take in the long run. When you come to big business and big deals you get a lot of egos. Not many would be willing to give up anything. So until someone is willing to do that or he needs to sell because it’s costing him a lot of money then he stays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 #wait ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I think the leak game is more likely: - Ashley is twiddling thumbs, moving goalposts and not replying and potential investors are pissed, bored of waiting and want to force his hand - His play was leaking there are 3 potential suitors to get them to pay more. - They release more info about the owner wanting Manure. - It simply all just goes away and this board implodes with apathy once more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest godzilla Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I think the leak game is more likely: - Ashley is twiddling thumbs, moving goalposts and not replying and potential investors are p*ssed, bored of waiting and want to force his hand - His play was leaking there are 3 potential suitors to get them to pay more. - They release more info about the owner wanting Manure. - It simply all just goes away and this board implodes with apathy once more. It was always known they went for Man U first and made a bid which got the reply not for sale. That’s why there now looking elsewhere. One mackem reporter states an exclusive (which wasn’t) and people think it’s part of a plot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Has there been any actual proof that the saudi bid has failed? Or is it just speculation as usuall? Has there been any actual proof that a bid has been made, or that there's been interest? So glad I sat this one out besides the odd mis-click of topic on this forum, such as now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest godzilla Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Has there been any actual proof that the saudi bid has failed? Or is it just speculation as usuall? Has there been any actual proof that a bid has been made, or that there's been interest? So glad I sat this one out besides the odd mis-click of topic on this forum, such as now. Wall Street Journal is a pretty good source. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 The more I think about it, the more am convinced the leak came from the Saudi side, not Staveley or the other guys. I think they’ve used nufc as research into how much negative press they would receive if they bought any English team (more so Manchester United). They probably haven’t factored in media bias against nufc so they’re probably thinking it’s a bit soon to be making any moves to own a football team yet. I think Staveley has been burned here in this instance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 The more I think about it, the more am convinced the leak came from the Saudi side, not Staveley or the other guys. I think they’ve used nufc as research into how much negative press they would receive if they bought any English team (more so Manchester United). They probably haven’t factored in media bias against nufc so they’re probably thinking it’s a bit soon to be making any moves to own a football team yet. I think Staveley has been burned here in this instance. Interesting theory Bonkers but interesting nonetheless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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