Ikon Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Inspector Gallowgate at your service Shut your skull! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 What good PR looks like. Good find that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Inspector Gallowgate at your service You might find better and more current info if you flew out to Dubai for a couple of weeks to further your investigations Not willing to go that far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Sorry guys got banned for talking about interesting past investment deals of our potential new owners. Or maybe it was my last post complementing Rafa. Not sure which one was least offensive to the moderator tbh. But there you go I’ll just take it for what it is again. Anyway to a more interesting topic I found some interesting yet worrying information that the Bin Zayed group apparently tried to get a Swiss hedge fund to cover as much as £750million of the deal to buy Liverpool. The proposal suggested by the Sheik to Greenberg states that a '£2bn valuation' was agreed for '100 per cent of the club'. A further document between Bin Zayed International — the Sheik's firm — and Alternative Advisors, a Swiss hedge fund where Sheik Khaled sought help to raise £750m from investors. The agreement was signed on January 22, 2018 and it says: 'The client wishes a financial partner for the acquisition of a British football club. 'Client has confirmed to AA that the current shareholder of the club agreed to sell 100% of the share of the club on the basis of a £2bn valuation.' Liverpool categorically deny that an agreement was reached, although a chain of emails shows Greenberg repeatedly chasing Kidwei for proof of fund The proof, it would appear, did not emerge and the £25m deposit as a downpayment for the deal, due to be paid by the end of December last year under the terms of the proposal, did not arrive. Liverpool insist all talks closed down in late January. A club statement said: 'FSG have been clear and consistent: the club is not for sale. 'But what the ownership has said, again clearly and consistently, is that under the right terms and conditions we would consider taking on a minority investor, if such a partnership was to further our commercial interests in specific market places and in line with the continued development and growth of the club and the team.' Kidwai, the managing director of Bin Zayed International, did not respond to a request for comment. Not like Midhat Kidwai not to comment Just find that very worrying reading that they looked for such a large amount from a hedge fund. I really hope a hedge fund isn’t part of any deal for us probably end up with a hedge fund company as part of the deal like that Sisu one Coventry have knowing our luck. Just hope this ends up alright for us because everything I read about the Bin Zayed Group is a worry. What is looking most likely is that the Sheikh is probably just fronting investors in a bid to build his profile and finally get something legit to his name. Just have to hope the Sheikh is bringing good Dubai based investors to us rather than some Swiss hedge fund that will try bleed us dry and turn our training ground into a housing complex for money. Just hoping something good comes out of it surely we’re due something good. That's from the Daily Mail, just edited so the "Sportsmail..." bits are removed. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6092431/Cousin-Man-City-owner-failed-world-record-2bn-takeover-Liverpool.html In terms of concerns about hedge funds: 1) £750m coming from a hedge fund for a £2bn purchase would appear to suggest the Sheikh can get hold of £1.25bn. We would cost £350m... 2) It's reasonable for someone at that level of purchase to want to spread the financial risk by taking on minority investors which still allows for retaining complete control of the company. 2) Just because a different hedge fund was involved in running another club at a lower level into the ground does not mean all hedge funds are the same. Wouldn't really make sense for a hedge fund to want to take over a well supported PL club with a plan to asset strip it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
County Durham Mag Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Someone lock this s**** until/if there is updates LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
County Durham Mag Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Inspector Gallowgate at your service You might find better and more current info if you flew out to Dubai for a couple of weeks to further your investigations :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Sorry guys got banned for talking about interesting past investment deals of our potential new owners. Or maybe it was my last post complementing Rafa. Not sure which one was least offensive to the moderator tbh. But there you go I’ll just take it for what it is again. Anyway to a more interesting topic I found some interesting yet worrying information that the Bin Zayed group apparently tried to get a Swiss hedge fund to cover as much as £750million of the deal to buy Liverpool. The proposal suggested by the Sheik to Greenberg states that a '£2bn valuation' was agreed for '100 per cent of the club'. A further document between Bin Zayed International — the Sheik's firm — and Alternative Advisors, a Swiss hedge fund where Sheik Khaled sought help to raise £750m from investors. The agreement was signed on January 22, 2018 and it says: 'The client wishes a financial partner for the acquisition of a British football club. 'Client has confirmed to AA that the current shareholder of the club agreed to sell 100% of the share of the club on the basis of a £2bn valuation.' Liverpool categorically deny that an agreement was reached, although a chain of emails shows Greenberg repeatedly chasing Kidwei for proof of fund The proof, it would appear, did not emerge and the £25m deposit as a downpayment for the deal, due to be paid by the end of December last year under the terms of the proposal, did not arrive. Liverpool insist all talks closed down in late January. A club statement said: 'FSG have been clear and consistent: the club is not for sale. 'But what the ownership has said, again clearly and consistently, is that under the right terms and conditions we would consider taking on a minority investor, if such a partnership was to further our commercial interests in specific market places and in line with the continued development and growth of the club and the team.' Kidwai, the managing director of Bin Zayed International, did not respond to a request for comment. Not like Midhat Kidwai not to comment Just find that very worrying reading that they looked for such a large amount from a hedge fund. I really hope a hedge fund isn’t part of any deal for us probably end up with a hedge fund company as part of the deal like that Sisu one Coventry have knowing our luck. Just hope this ends up alright for us because everything I read about the Bin Zayed Group is a worry. What is looking most likely is that the Sheikh is probably just fronting investors in a bid to build his profile and finally get something legit to his name. Just have to hope the Sheikh is bringing good Dubai based investors to us rather than some Swiss hedge fund that will try bleed us dry and turn our training ground into a housing complex for money. Just hoping something good comes out of it surely we’re due something good. That's from the Daily Mail, just edited so the "Sportsmail..." bits are removed. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6092431/Cousin-Man-City-owner-failed-world-record-2bn-takeover-Liverpool.html In terms of concerns about hedge funds: 1) £750m coming from a hedge fund for a £2bn purchase would appear to suggest the Sheikh can get hold of £1.25bn. We would cost £350m... 2) It's reasonable for someone at that level of purchase to want to spread the financial risk by taking on minority investors which still allows for retaining complete control of the company. 2) Just because a different hedge fund was involved in running another club at a lower level into the ground does not mean all hedge funds are the same. Wouldn't really make sense for a hedge fund to want to take over a well supported PL club with a plan to asset strip it. Unclear how much the Chinese investor was putting in though. All the billion pound government investment deals definitely suggest he has contacts in very high places with big financial power so could still prove to be promising. Hopefully he can get the deal over the line Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Fuck sake man, can you not just go away? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 f*** sake man, can you not just go away? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Fucking leave him be, man. What you in here for anyway if it bothers you? We all know fuck alls changed. And we aren't gonna find out if it does until that info pops up somewhere else. Then it'll be posted in here, title will change and the topic of conversation will change. To yet more stuff no one knows about. Honestly, man. Treating these threads like theyre a bastian of truth and knowledge. Its just people talking shite like round a table at a pub. 99% of posts on this forum are nonsense. Thats why its so great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 It's the way he's going on about inspector gallowgate, the joke wore off a long time ago but he keeps going on and on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCK Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Not a takeover thread without emotions running high and forum members hating each other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Look. We're losing sight of the fact, here, that there still aren't nearly enough colons in the thread name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 If you don't want to read something that's total and utter bullshit from start to finish, probably best not to come in this thread anyway, that's why I don't typically bother. Already 142 pages of this total bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 If you don't want to read something that's total and utter bullshit from start to finish, probably best not to come in this thread anyway, that's why I don't typically bother. Already 142 pages of this total bollocks. Its been 6 days, 142 pages, thats 3350 posts, of utter weirdness, its mental Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 There is an 'ignore' function. Use it folks, if you feel the need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 If you don't want to read something that's total and utter bullshit from start to finish, probably best not to come in this thread anyway, that's why I don't typically bother. Already 142 pages of this total bollocks. I don't mind total bollocks as long as it's varied a bit, lad is a broken record. Just my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 At least he’s trying his best to do some research. If only some of the journalists covering us had bothered to do that this week, then maybe we’d have a better understanding of what’s going on. I do get the frustration about the mou talk though, aye ok we know about it, it can mean something or nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 If you don't want to read something that's total and utter bullshit from start to finish, probably best not to come in this thread anyway, that's why I don't typically bother. Already 142 pages of this total bollocks. Its been 6 days, 142 pages, thats 3350 posts, of utter weirdness, its mental The Bible's shorter, but more grounded in reality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest godzilla Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Would be a prime time for a new owner also, as doesn't the shirt sponser and designer contracts finish at the end of next season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 I'm very positive about this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 I don't want to ignore him because he doesn't actually seem like a knobhead, just the repetetive posts getting on my tits a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 It will all turn into a racist frenzy before the weekend is done. Then it’ll be announced on Monday and nobody will dare show their face on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jong24 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 This is my first port of call for news (I know) of the fakeover, why would you lock it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 In time this thread will be looked upon as a classic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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