Guest chopey Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Mate of mine reckons extra security has been drafted in for Wednesday and Thursday. Thought it might have been takeover related but now I reckon it’s due to them worried about people kicking off when we sell Pérez and probably Longstaff the same week Rafa joins a Chinese club. In where ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest godzilla Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 I think if we sell Perez when we have no manager or simply the fact that he’s being allowed to talk to Leicester indicating that a fee has been agreed pretty much means that no sale is imminent and that the next manager will have no power whatsoever. Unless there is a release clause in his contract that has been activated by Leicester Exactly why can't people understand this and in all probability there is, meaning that if there is f*** all anyone can do takeover happening or not as it's been activated Because there’s no way he has a £15m release clause when nobody has ever tried to sign him for that. You don't know what his release clause may be - remember Perez signed his new contract in 2016 so a 15 million release clause would be right at that time. And up to the second half of this season I certainly wouldn't have said he was worth more than 15 million either. Let's say he doesn't have a buyout clause then there is no way in hell that Ashley would let him go for such a small fee and he has proved this a few times with the likes of Carroll, Cabaye, Sissoko, Wijnaldum he doesn't let players go on the cheap if they have a market value. 2015 he signed his contract btw. No he didn't btw it was 2016 So his new 6 year contract which expires in 2021 was signed 5 years before it expires? Clever that. Obviously Perez disagrees with you according to his twitter page when he signed it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 I think if we sell Perez when we have no manager or simply the fact that he’s being allowed to talk to Leicester indicating that a fee has been agreed pretty much means that no sale is imminent and that the next manager will have no power whatsoever. Unless there is a release clause in his contract that has been activated by Leicester Exactly why can't people understand this and in all probability there is, meaning that if there is f*** all anyone can do takeover happening or not as it's been activated Because there’s no way he has a £15m release clause when nobody has ever tried to sign him for that. You don't know what his release clause may be - remember Perez signed his new contract in 2016 so a 15 million release clause would be right at that time. And up to the second half of this season I certainly wouldn't have said he was worth more than 15 million either. Let's say he doesn't have a buyout clause then there is no way in hell that Ashley would let him go for such a small fee and he has proved this a few times with the likes of Carroll, Cabaye, Sissoko, Wijnaldum he doesn't let players go on the cheap if they have a market value. 2015 he signed his contract btw. No he didn't btw it was 2016 So his new 6 year contract which expires in 2021 was signed 5 years before it expires? Clever that. Obviously Perez disagrees with you according to his twitter page when he signed it Yeah already apologised above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonjam88 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Mate of mine reckons extra security has been drafted in for Wednesday and Thursday. Thought it might have been takeover related but now I reckon it’s due to them worried about people kicking off when we sell Pérez and probably Longstaff the same week Rafa joins a Chinese club. In where ? Sorry should have said St James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Right, sell the best players, take the tv money out, low wages etc, still a full stadium. Then we get relegated, do parachute payments still exist? I reckon he’s asset stripping then will sell next year for £250m We won’t be worth 250 mil in the championship Why not? Bet we are. TV money would mean an instant reduction in valuation. This valuation is what buyers take to finance houses to back the deal. The core assets of the club are simply not worth £250m without TV income. Not a chance. How much then? If he could take out £150m this year, would he then accept £150m plus free advertising next? Fuck only knows. I'd say £150m would be the tops he'd get if we were a Championship side tbh. So £300m with the knowledge he fucked the club over Quite the risk if he doesn't get a buyer at £150m though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Right, sell the best players, take the tv money out, low wages etc, still a full stadium. Then we get relegated, do parachute payments still exist? I reckon he’s asset stripping then will sell next year for £250m We won’t be worth 250 mil in the championship Why not? Bet we are. TV money would mean an instant reduction in valuation. This valuation is what buyers take to finance houses to back the deal. The core assets of the club are simply not worth £250m without TV income. Not a chance. How much then? If he could take out £150m this year, would he then accept £150m plus free advertising next? Fuck only knows. I'd say £150m would be the tops he'd get if we were a Championship side tbh. So £300m with the knowledge he fucked the club over Quite the risk if he doesn't get a buyer at £150m though. Can’t think of many other alternatives to what he’s doing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Mate of mine reckons extra security has been drafted in for Wednesday and Thursday. Thought it might have been takeover related but now I reckon it’s due to them worried about people kicking off when we sell Pérez and probably Longstaff the same week Rafa joins a Chinese club. In where ? sjp box office for the last minute season ticket rush. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest godzilla Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 I think if we sell Perez when we have no manager or simply the fact that he’s being allowed to talk to Leicester indicating that a fee has been agreed pretty much means that no sale is imminent and that the next manager will have no power whatsoever. Unless there is a release clause in his contract that has been activated by Leicester Exactly why can't people understand this and in all probability there is, meaning that if there is f*** all anyone can do takeover happening or not as it's been activated Because there’s no way he has a £15m release clause when nobody has ever tried to sign him for that. You don't know what his release clause may be - remember Perez signed his new contract in 2016 so a 15 million release clause would be right at that time. And up to the second half of this season I certainly wouldn't have said he was worth more than 15 million either. Let's say he doesn't have a buyout clause then there is no way in hell that Ashley would let him go for such a small fee and he has proved this a few times with the likes of Carroll, Cabaye, Sissoko, Wijnaldum he doesn't let players go on the cheap if they have a market value. 2015 he signed his contract btw. No he didn't btw it was 2016 So his new 6 year contract which expires in 2021 was signed 5 years before it expires? Clever that. Obviously Perez disagrees with you according to his twitter page when he signed it Yeah already apologised above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Mate of mine reckons extra security has been drafted in for Wednesday and Thursday. Thought it might have been takeover related but now I reckon it’s due to them worried about people kicking off when we sell Pérez and probably Longstaff the same week Rafa joins a Chinese club. Just read his message again it was extra security Thursday and Friday Could it not be for the announcement of a sale? Expecting crowds to turn up and burn Ashley effigies outside the Gallowgate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Mate of mine reckons extra security has been drafted in for Wednesday and Thursday. Thought it might have been takeover related but now I reckon it’s due to them worried about people kicking off when we sell Pérez and probably Longstaff the same week Rafa joins a Chinese club. In where ? At the training ground I'd assume? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Right, sell the best players, take the tv money out, low wages etc, still a full stadium. Then we get relegated, do parachute payments still exist? I reckon he’s asset stripping then will sell next year for £250m We won’t be worth 250 mil in the championship Why not? Bet we are. TV money would mean an instant reduction in valuation. This valuation is what buyers take to finance houses to back the deal. The core assets of the club are simply not worth £250m without TV income. Not a chance. How much then? If he could take out £150m this year, would he then accept £150m plus free advertising next? Fuck only knows. I'd say £150m would be the tops he'd get if we were a Championship side tbh. So £300m with the knowledge he fucked the club over Quite the risk if he doesn't get a buyer at £150m though. Can’t think of many other alternatives to what he’s doing Increasing the cash available on day 1 of a sale? Purely from a commercial perspective, he HAS to be looking to get that deal done in the next week or two. If not, he's fucked. Even this pig headed prick must realise that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Stop doing it to yourselves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonjam88 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Mate of mine reckons extra security has been drafted in for Wednesday and Thursday. Thought it might have been takeover related but now I reckon it’s due to them worried about people kicking off when we sell Pérez and probably Longstaff the same week Rafa joins a Chinese club. In where ? sjp box office for the last minute season ticket rush. ;D aye can see that happening. More like rushing to cancel them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Probably just for the return of the players for training Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 No chance there's someone close to buying the club with us selling Perez for peanuts and trying to do the same with Longstaff. It's over. Pains me to say it but it isn't happening this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Is he just doing this out of spite? He's actively losing tens of millions by purposely relegating us. Premier League is a goldmine and he's selling our players for half price.... what the fuck?!?!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribesman Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 He wouldn't get £250m in the Championship. So, on your example, he'd not be selling for two years minimum. And even that is if he is lucky. We go down this time and there'd be such a toxic atmosphere that we'd never bounce back up. He's got two weeks to get rid or otherwise, he's held on to his cards for too long and he'll be f***ed. The last two times we were in the Championship we had very popular managers in Benitez and Hughton that were able to galvanise both players and fans to move forward in a shared direction. We were also fortunate that some of the good players that got relegated were willing to stay to help the club get promotion. Only Newcastle and Burnley have managed to bounce straight back up from relegation, it shows how difficult it is to get out of the Championship these days. If and when this takeover collapses Ashley only has himself to blame for not selling when the clubs stock was high. He has had 2 chances and it looks like he will be derailing a third takeover in 2 years. Hes gambling again and its going to backfire spectacularly on him. There is not a chance this club survives relegation next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 He wouldn't get £250m in the Championship. So, on your example, he'd not be selling for two years minimum. And even that is if he is lucky. We go down this time and there'd be such a toxic atmosphere that we'd never bounce back up. He's got two weeks to get rid or otherwise, he's held on to his cards for too long and he'll be f***ed. The last two times we were in the Championship we had very popular managers in Benitez and Hughton that were able to galvanise both players and fans to move forward in a shared direction. We were also fortunate that some of the good players that got relegated were willing to stay to help the club get promotion. Only Newcastle and Burnley have managed to bounced straight back up from relegation, it shows how difficult it is to get out of the Championship these days. If and when this takeover collapses Ashley only has himself to blame for not selling when the clubs stock was high. He has had 2 chances and it looks like he will be derailing a third takeover in 2 years. Hes gambling again and its going to backfire spectacularly on him. There is not a chance this club survives relegation next season. Completely agree . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest godzilla Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 No chance there's someone close to buying the club with us selling Perez for peanuts and trying to do the same with Longstaff. It's over. Pains me to say it but it isn't happening this season. Again unless there is a buyout clause and I think there will be, when has Ashley not only got a market value for a player or exceeded it. He NEVER let's players go on the cheap as mentioned before Carroll, Cabaye, Sissoko, Wijnaldum for examples Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 No chance there's someone close to buying the club with us selling Perez for peanuts and trying to do the same with Longstaff. It's over. Pains me to say it but it isn't happening this season. Again unless there is a buyout clause and I think there will be, when has Ashley not only got a market value for a player or exceeded it. He NEVER let's players go on the cheap as mentioned before Carroll, Cabaye, Sissoko, Wijnaldum for examples He was pissed off cabaye went cheap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 No chance there's someone close to buying the club with us selling Perez for peanuts and trying to do the same with Longstaff. It's over. Pains me to say it but it isn't happening this season. Again unless there is a buyout clause and I think there will be, when has Ashley not only got a market value for a player or exceeded it. He NEVER let's players go on the cheap as mentioned before Carroll, Cabaye, Sissoko, Wijnaldum for examples There’s no takeover man. Dreamworld Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Right, sell the best players, take the tv money out, low wages etc, still a full stadium. Then we get relegated, do parachute payments still exist? I reckon he’s asset stripping then will sell next year for £250m We won’t be worth 250 mil in the championship Why not? Bet we are. The revenue drops significantly in the Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest godzilla Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 No chance there's someone close to buying the club with us selling Perez for peanuts and trying to do the same with Longstaff. It's over. Pains me to say it but it isn't happening this season. Again unless there is a buyout clause and I think there will be, when has Ashley not only got a market value for a player or exceeded it. He NEVER let's players go on the cheap as mentioned before Carroll, Cabaye, Sissoko, Wijnaldum for examples He was p*ssed off cabaye went cheap You will have to provide proof of that mind as I certainly can't remember that. He got £19 million for him at the time very big money and this for a player who wanted to leave also Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishMagpie Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Mate of mine reckons extra security has been drafted in for Wednesday and Thursday. Thought it might have been takeover related but now I reckon it’s due to them worried about people kicking off when we sell Pérez and probably Longstaff the same week Rafa joins a Chinese club. In where ? At the training ground I'd assume? Surely this. Players return. Will be lots of reporters etc. possibly some pissed off fans with a bedsheet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Mate of mine reckons extra security has been drafted in for Wednesday and Thursday. Thought it might have been takeover related but now I reckon it’s due to them worried about people kicking off when we sell Pérez and probably Longstaff the same week Rafa joins a Chinese club. In where ? At the training ground I'd assume? Surely this. Players return. Will be lots of reporters etc. possibly some pissed off fans with a bedsheet. With piss stains on it ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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