Adam P Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Needs a lyric change to ''He's Brazilian, we think he's fucking brilliant, except when he's been drinking, it's Joelinton'' Probably best if we dont over react to this, his breath reading was 43 so in the first band of the calculator that goes from 35 to 59. That's a 12 month ban and a fine. Speed kills more on UK roads than alcohol and if you drive, you've broken the speed limit. He made a mistake, he should donate a big chunk of his salary to a charity, do some re-education. The ban and the fine is his societal punishment, he deserves additional punishment from the club given his role etc. Announce it, one match ban and move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Yeah you know it now! Woosh! That reference went right over my head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 17 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: No it's not banter you're a waste of space. Manuel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Adam P said: Speed kills more on UK roads than alcohol and if you drive, you've broken the speed limit. That's a shit argument if you're trying to suggest speeding is worse than drink driving. If everyone speeds, as you suggest, but only a tiny percentage drink drive, then of course speeding is likely to kill more (I haven't checked). If 100 people speed as "normal" drivers do, and 100 people drink drive, I'd expect waaaaay more accidents from the drink drivers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, LionOfGosforth said: Manuel If you were to ask me to name three geniuses, I probably wouldn't say Einstein or Newton. I'd go: Milligan, Cleese & Everett. Edited January 13, 2023 by MrRaspberryJam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: If you were to ask me to name three geniuses, I probably wouldn't say Einstein or Newton. I'd go: Milligan, Cleese & Everett. Pure excellence. If my only contribution to this discussion is Manuel getting clobbered with a spoon, i'm fine with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam P Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chris_R said: That's a shit argument if you're trying to suggest speeding is worse than drink driving. If everyone speeds, as you suggest, but only a tiny percentage drink drive, then of course speeding is likely to kill more (I haven't checked). If 100 people speed as "normal" drivers do, and 100 people drink drive, I'd expect waaaaay more accidents from the drink drivers. I was trying to suggest that speeding kills more people than alcohol so its worse for society and most if not all drivers have done it. I like your maths, i got lost statistically though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teohgk Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Adam P said: I was trying to suggest that speeding kills more people than alcohol so its worse for society and most if not all drivers have done it. I like your maths, i got lost statistically though. Is actually the same issue isn’t it? Consider most if not all drunk drivers speed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Just now, teohgk said: Is actually the same issue isn’t it? Consider most if not all drunk drivers speed No because not all speeders are drunk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Chris_R said: That's a shit argument if you're trying to suggest speeding is worse than drink driving. If everyone speeds, as you suggest, but only a tiny percentage drink drive, then of course speeding is likely to kill more (I haven't checked). If 100 people speed as "normal" drivers do, and 100 people drink drive, I'd expect waaaaay more accidents from the drink drivers. Nearly every car I pass , the driver is looking down (texting) Eyes not on the road. Huge issue , I don’t know the number of phone related deaths but I know it’s on the increase. Ps - I don’t condone either in my eyes speeding / drinking / texting are similar as all breaking the law. Some May say texting is worse as the driver isn’t even looking at the road Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 A good solicitor and at worst it’ll be a 9 month ban, costs plus a daft 3-day course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Theregulars said: Out of interest, and entirely unrelated of course, what was your view on Bolsonaro’s people storming government and court buildings? What in the actual fuck is this? Why would Kaka have an opinion about something in Brazil? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Get him serving in the soup kitchen for a month, that'll dee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: A good solicitor and at worst it’ll be a 9 month ban, costs plus a daft 3-day course. The best solicitor in the world won't get him below the 12 month minimum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Flip said: What in the actual fuck is this? Why would Kaka have an opinion about something in Brazil? Oh - I thought he is Brazilian!! My mistake. Basically trying to out him as the fascist he’s coming across as. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 4 hours ago, KaKa said: Okay ... but how is going on about in on a football forum helping. What's the point in having a forum at all if we're going by that reasoning? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, JonBez comesock said: Nearly every car I pass , the driver is looking down (texting) Eyes not on the road. Huge issue , I don’t know the number of phone related deaths but I know it’s on the increase. Ps - I don’t condone either in my eyes speeding / drinking / texting are similar as all breaking the law. Some May say texting is worse as the driver isn’t even looking at the road I was crossing the road the other day at a stop light, and there was a guy with an ipad balanced on his lap, and he had a video game on there while driving. I'm guessing he was glancing down and playing it anytime traffic slowed or he came to a brief stop. That's how bad things are getting with these devices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Theregulars said: Oh - I thought he is Brazilian!! My mistake. Basically trying to out him as the fascist he’s coming across as. words like fascists are thrown around so easily nowadays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Theregulars said: Oh - I thought he is Brazilian!! My mistake. Basically trying to out him as the fascist he’s coming across as. Now I'm a fascist am I? Tremendous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Wullie said: The best solicitor in the world won't get him below the 12 month minimum. The rehab course reduces it by a quarter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said: Nearly every car I pass , the driver is looking down (texting) Eyes not on the road. Huge issue , I don’t know the number of phone related deaths but I know it’s on the increase. Ps - I don’t condone either in my eyes speeding / drinking / texting are similar as all breaking the law. Some May say texting is worse as the driver isn’t even looking at the road So murder is similar to streaming a football match, because they're both breaking the law? Got it. There's a scale. Drink driving is far more dangerous than speeding, per person per mile, that's beyond any doubt because it's not even close. To form an equivalence is dangerous, because everyone speeds. And therefore there's nothing you can say to stop people speeding because we all do it. You included, if you drive. Therefore forming an equivalence risks impressionable people thinking they're both similarly dangerous, so if they can speed safely (in their eyes) they're ok to drink drive safely. Drink driving is massively worse than speeding. Though of course speeding is wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, KaKa said: I was crossing the road the other day at a stop light, and there was a guy with an ipad balanced on his lap, and he had a video game on there while driving. I'm guessing he was glancing down and playing it anytime traffic slowed or he came to a brief stop. That's how bad things are getting with these devices. It absolutely boils my piss when people driving are using their phones. I've seen it loads of times and the biggest arseholes are those that think it's ok to text whilst at traffic lights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, joeyt said: What's the point in having a forum at all if we're going by that reasoning? You're right. Close the forum! Anyway ... his 'Tory' post was so bizarrely out of context to anything we were discussing at the time I just thought it was absolutely ridiculous. He seemingly was insinuating I was a tory then and now today I'm apparently a fascist. Honestly man, words fail me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, KaKa said: You're right. Close the forum! Anyway ... his 'Tory' post was so bizarrely out of context to anything we were discussing at the time I just thought it was absolutely ridiculous. He seemingly was insinuating I was a tory then and now today I'm apparently a fascist. Honestly man, words fail me. Stop throwing people out of helicopters, KaKa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Rod said: It absolutely boils my piss when people driving are using their phones. I've seen it loads of times and the biggest arseholes are those that think it's ok to text whilst at traffic lights. I'm not sure what the penalties are for using all these devices whilst driving but they really need to be ratcheted up asap. It is seriously out of control. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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