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Joelinton: will not play against Everton (Howe)


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30 minutes ago, jack j said:

I thought he was the best of the 3 in there to be honest.

Tonali was far better than him today, without him today they would have scored 6  or 7

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Ronson333 said:

Tonali was far better than him today, without him today they would have scored 6  or 7

 

 

 

 

 

By some margin.

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I thought he was the worst of the 3 midfielders, tbh. He was very loose with the ball (either holding on too long or passing to nowhere), not effective with his physicality, and capped it off with poor finishing.

 

A fantastic player but you see his technical limitations against well organised pressing sides.

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Tonali was comfortably our best player on the pitch today, never mind being the best of the midfield 3. 
 

Joelinton and Bruno were terrible.

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1 hour ago, Donut said:

Poor today and seemed completely rattled by the fact that some of their players matched him physically. 


I'm not sure they did, I think he got rattled because they were allowed to consistently get away with fouls, which he got picked up over. Lewis Cook in particular had a couple of tackles that were lucky not to injure someone, he had a habit of making it like a scissor challenge or having another swing with his trailing leg all game. It wasn’t why we lost but as mentioned in the ref thread, Atwell was utter bobbins

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I'm sure he wasn't always as sloppy as he has been recently. It feels like every game the ball bounces off him a couple of times or his short passing has been well off the mark. I adore the guy but when you consider the outrageous quality next to him in that midfield, you wonder how much longer his strength and athleticism is going to keep him in the side despite his (occasional) lack of ability on the ball.

 

It's not like Bruno and Tonali lack physicality so Joe might have a job justifying his inclusion if there comes a point where we can invest again at CM. (Probably nothing to worry about for about four transfer windows then :rolleyes:)

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1 hour ago, Yorkie said:

I'm sure he wasn't always as sloppy as he has been recently. It feels like every game the ball bounces off him a couple of times or his short passing has been well off the mark. I adore the guy but when you consider the outrageous quality next to him in that midfield, you wonder how much longer his strength and athleticism is going to keep him in the side despite his (occasional) lack of ability on the ball.

 

It's not like Bruno and Tonali lack physicality so Joe might have a job justifying his inclusion if there comes a point where we can invest again at CM. (Probably nothing to worry about for about four transfer windows then :rolleyes:)

I think next season the scouts will be looking for a left footed centre mid.

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It’s getting close to the point where Miley should be given a shot there, for me. Joe does clearly have talismanic qualities and is held in the highest regard by his teammates, but Miley looks like he can offer what he does and more in terms of output.

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He's just played in 8 of the last 9 straight wins, not many managers mess with a side that is winning matches consistently. 

 

He's had a poor game yesterday along with seven others, and people want him out of the side.

 

I'm just glad Eddie Howe is the manager and not the superior beings on Nufc Online. 

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Individually, he's had about five really good games this season out of 27, and almost as many stinkers, though I do appreciate he's often doing a load tactically for the team that negates his direct output.

 

Still, I'd argue that across the season he's been average compared to the heights he's reached previously since the positional switch.

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Beefcake Miley does feel like an interesting option as the season progresses. 

 

I was surprised Willock was on over him yesterday. I think Howe felt we needed legs - not untrue but we also needed more cuter thinking to get forwards in the game. Willock hasn't shown much of that at all over the last few months.

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39 minutes ago, Rich said:

It’s getting close to the point where Miley should be given a shot there, for me. Joe does clearly have talismanic qualities and is held in the highest regard by his teammates, but Miley looks like he can offer what he does and more in terms of output.


I agree in some ways. But I don’t think he offers ‘what he does and more’ or a similar profile. The output in terms of passing, chance creation things like that, I agree. 
 

I’d like him to get a chance as whilst he doesn’t have the power and drive that Joelinton does. Along with all of his unquantifiable qualities. I think he might bring a bit more calm to proceedings and some quality on the ball. 
 

Joelinton is often playing at a 100MPH and like a bull in a china shop. It’s not really going to happen with Gordon always on the left and Murphy doing so well of late on the right. But it does feel like he is at his best in that hybrid LCM/LW role. 

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Miley needs a start or two to demonstrate what degree of influence he can have at this level. And with big Joe looking slightly leggy and the yellows mounting ,  the Southampton game has come at a good time to have a look at it imo

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3 minutes ago, Holloway said:

Miley needs a start or two to demonstrate what degree of influence he can have at this level. And with big Joe looking slightly leggy and the yellows mounting ,  the Southampton game has come at a good time to have a look at it imo


Ironically it might’ve been better against Bournemouth where we were under a quite intense press. His technique and passing is the third best in our midfield options. 

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FWIW it’s possible that Howe might have a word with Joelinton after how angry he got against Bournemouth. Helps nobody when he takes it that far and it breads a chaotic feeling. 

 

 

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