Joelinton: will not play against Everton (Howe)

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12 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

I get what you're saying but I think we'd have to annihilate our budget in order to replace what Big Joe gives us. He's the most physical, most versatile and arguably the most tactically astute player in the squad. Plus he's 5-10 goals a season on top of everything else he gives us in terms of physicality.

 

It's really important that we keep him imo. No one's gonna make a huge offer for him when his contract situation is vulnerable. 

Everything you're saying is right. But I just always have this question in my mind - is our midfield (which, injuries aside, is pretty stacked) good enough to win the league? If not, realistically, certain well loved players will have to go if we want to improve and they don't want to spend the best years of their career in Matt Richie's role. So it's going to come down to questions like Big Joe vs. Little Joe sooner than we'd like.

[Kimbo]

I’m not particularly worried about this, it’s normal to have high demands at the start of a negotiation. I expect in the end he’ll stay and everyone will be happy.

[JonBez comesock]

1 hour ago, huss9 said:

Those saying he wants parity with Bruno obviously are just guessing, unless Dick Gomez is on here.

Both Keith Downie / Craig Hope have been quoted as saying he wants to be the highest earner at the club 

 

Both on video / You tube channels 

 

[JonBez comesock]

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[JonBez comesock]

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[huss9]

32 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said:

Both Keith Downie / Craig Hope have been quoted as saying he wants to be the highest earner at the club 

 

Both on video / You tube channels 

 

hmmm.

so is that being leaked by his agent or someone negotiating at the club?

[jackflap]

I hope he stays but wouldn't push the boat out for him, think the club is due a certain amount of loyalty from him despite his right to maximise his earnings. Think he can go up another level as a player with the right coaching, get the feeling he's still learning his trade as a midfielder. His link up play with Bruno is superb and one of his main strengths so if Bruno goes does that diminish his value for us? Could see a big stylistic shift in midfield if that did happen.

[loki679]

Love Beg Jow but if we need some FFP room I'd rather he goes than Botman, Isak or Bruno who would be the other players in that price bracket.

[Lush Vlad]

I’d have him a rung below Bruno, Isak and Trippier in regards to wages. Assuming they are our highest earners, of course. But I do think he is worth being next best when it comes to his salary. 
 

He is such a unique player and I feel

he has quite a few intangibles that wouldn’t necessarily appear on a stats sheet. If we are going to continue with this midfield set up. He needs to stay here, IMO. 

 

If we want to evolve and genuinely become a more technical, possession based side. Which Howe has alluded to. Then I could certainly see him moving on if his demands are fairly high. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

2 hours ago, JonBez comesock said:

Both Keith Downie / Craig Hope have been quoted as saying he wants to be the highest earner at the club 

 

Both on video / You tube channels 

 

I wish I could believe they knew anything. 

[mighty__mag]

He's alleged to be on close to 85k now, I think that's pretty good tbf.

 

But with Matt Targett alleged to be on 100k, you can see why players think they deserve more.

 

 

Edited February 7, 2024 by mighty__mag

[Kanj]

He should not be the highest earner at the club. if that's what he's holding out for, then that's not really something the club should do. 

[Shearergol]

Is he fuck worth £160k a week though. He wouldn't get anywhere near that at any other club.

 

I reckon he'll end up staying with a slight pay increase and maybe a nice little release clause for if Real Madrid () come calling.

[mondonewc]

He's 28 in August, so he's likely thinking this is his last BIG contract, and his agents getting greedy. Zero chance he can become the highest earner at the club, Isak should then snap be knocking on the door for a pay rise, likely along with a few others forming a queue behind him. Hope he stays, but if he wants to leave wish him well and be on his way. If there's just one thing I'd like us to copy from City's approach it would be that, anyone who wants to leave can, don't ever get desperate and overpay. 

[KaKa]

Nagelsmann loved him and was going to take him to Leipzig with him before we came in for him I remember reading.

 

I could also see a manager like Simeone signing him for Atletico, as well as a number of Italian teams.

 

In a team with more quality around him, where he could keep things simpler he'd look even better.

 

Joelinton is invaluable. 100% commitment and follows tactical instructions to a tee. If we make him available people would be shocked at the teams that show interest and the price they'd be willing to pay I think.

 

 

Edited February 7, 2024 by KaKa

[Tsunami]

Sorry, as much as I love Big Jo, he can’t expect to be our highest earner. His game is limited, it’s very important but, it’s still limited. He still can’t hit a barn door with a banjo. I’m expecting the complete midfielder for the supposed wages he’s after.

[Shearergol]

44 minutes ago, KaKa said:

Nagelsmann loved him and was going to take him to Leipzig with him before we came in for him I remember reading.

 

I could also see a manager like Simeone signing him for Atletico, as well as a number of Italian teams.

 

In a team with more quality around him, where he could keep things simpler he'd look even better.

 

Joelinton is invaluable. 100% commitment and follows tactical instructions to a tee. If we make him available people would be shocked at the teams that show interest and the price they'd be willing to pay I think.

 

 

 

Which of those clubs can afford his wage demands then?

[Dr.Spaceman]

3 hours ago, mighty__mag said:

He's alleged to be on close to 85k now, I think that's pretty good tbf.

 

But with Matt Targett alleged to be on 100k, you can see why players think they deserve more.

 

 

 

 

That's not enough for a starter in a team from the PL that's just been in the Champions League imo

[relámpago blanco]

I think 125 is fair for Joe

[Beth]

If he's on the reported 80k I'd offer him 100 and perhaps another 20 in performance related add ons. He won't be offered that anywhere else unless he sees out his contract and goes on a free.

[KaKa]

46 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

Which of those clubs can afford his wage demands then?

 

£160,000 a week?

 

I've just had a look at Atletico's wages on Capology.com, and they have 5 players on over 200,000 euros a week. One of which is Morata.

[buzza]

Been one of our best players over the past 18 months.

He will want to be close to the top earners, and within his rights to be in my opinion. He is key to us being competitive at the top.

[Shearergol]

5 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

£160,000 a week?

 

I've just had a look at Atletico's wages on Capology.com, and they have 5 players on over 200,000 euros a week. One of which is Morata.

 

Good luck to him then.

[KaKa]

4 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

 

Good luck to him then.

 

Be interesting to see what happens.

 

It's a significant wage for us to pay at this moment in time, but in the grand scheme of things, it's not a massive wage in football nowadays.

[Coffee_Johnny]

2 hours ago, mondonewc said:

He's 28 in August, so he's likely thinking this is his last BIG contract, and his agents getting greedy. Zero chance he can become the highest earner at the club, Isak should then snap be knocking on the door for a pay rise, likely along with a few others forming a queue behind him. Hope he stays, but if he wants to leave wish him well and be on his way. If there's just one thing I'd like us to copy from City's approach it would be that, anyone who wants to leave can, don't ever get desperate and overpay. 

I assume that it is always a bigger earner for agents if their client moves. Careful where you take your counsel!