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I love Joe, but it's becoming more apparent to me that his limitations take more out of the collective team than his strengths contribute. We'd be better off with a more natural CM

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2 minutes ago, nufc123 said:

Almost impossible.

 

This is the issue. We'll probably regret it going forward, but if Tonali leaves, we're pretty much unable to shift Joelinton.

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2 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

This is the issue. We'll probably regret it going forward, but if Tonali leaves, we're pretty much unable to shift Joelinton.

Also his salary and age will be a problem.

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18 hours ago, TRC said:

He’s improved a lot with the ball tbf

 

Think he's getting worse personally. I always thought he had good feet and was underrated, but he's a bit slower and clumsier these days. 

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His attitude has been appalling this season. Spends the majority of the game smashing into people needlessly then whining at the ref. 
 

Major sign he’s way off it and getting frustrated at himself and the team.

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He's been in the main fantastic for us since Howe came in, but he's rapidly becoming a millstone round his manager's neck IMO.

 

It feels like he's scared to leave him out because he's big and tall and strong at the expense of Ramsey who can actually pass it a bit and is more dynamic.

 

There's been instances this season where he's started 3 games in a week when we've had Miley and/or Ramsey kicking their heels on the bench and by the third game he's looked absolutely knackered and ineffective.

 

It should be the time to sell, but that probably hinges on who the manager is. I can't see Eddie wanting to move him on.

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I think Howe is trapped in similar situations with a few players because he’s in such a desperate situation to get results. 
 

Gordon plays up front because we need the press. Murphy starts on the right because he might produce a cross despite being shite. Joelinton and Tonali both have to play no matter how poor their form is, especially with the ball. 
 

Not blaming Howe as such because the squad is not brilliant and he does need to hope for results from somewhere. But I feel a few of our selections are in hope rather than expectation. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I think Howe is trapped in similar situations with a few players because he’s in such a desperate situation to get results. 
 

Gordon plays up front because we need the press. Murphy starts on the right because he might produce a cross despite being shite. Joelinton and Tonali both have to play no matter how poor their form is, especially with the ball. 
 

Not blaming Howe as such because the squad is not brilliant and he does need to hope for results from somewhere. But I feel a few of our selections are in hope rather than expectation. 

 

 

 

Agree with this and I’m surprised Burn and Pope to some extent didn’t come back in vs Palace.

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On 14/04/2026 at 00:01, Jesse Pinkman said:

His attitude has been appalling this season. Spends the majority of the game smashing into people needlessly then whining at the ref. 
 

Major sign he’s way off it and getting frustrated at himself and the team.

 

Agreed. And judging by his lasses Instagram, he's back in Brazil having a nice holiday with the family, when he should be getting his head down and training with the team during his suspension.

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On 16/04/2026 at 08:28, bigfella said:

 

Agreed. And judging by his lasses Instagram, he's back in Brazil having a nice holiday with the family, when he should be getting his head down and training with the team during his suspension.

thats on Eddie.

should have made him stay and train.

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On 15/04/2026 at 17:30, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I think Howe is trapped in similar situations with a few players because he’s in such a desperate situation to get results. 
 

Gordon plays up front because we need the press. Murphy starts on the right because he might produce a cross despite being shite. Joelinton and Tonali both have to play no matter how poor their form is, especially with the ball. 
 

Not blaming Howe as such because the squad is not brilliant and he does need to hope for results from somewhere. But I feel a few of our selections are in hope rather than expectation. 

 

 

 

 

It’s the same re the LB position - instead of giving natural LB chances he prefer to stick with Burn. We broke this problem due to Hall being absolutely brilliant once he got the chance.

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On 18/04/2026 at 04:09, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Is that true? All I can see on Insta is his family arriving back in England and him saying how much he has missed them. 

 

It's all very confusing, she posted a couple of pics of the two of them frolicking in the surf, which I took to be in Brazil, because that's where the family were. 

But as you say, it looks like the family returned to England and now Joe and his lass are in Milan.

 

https://www.instagram.com/thaysgondim_?igsh=bWk2ZTloNjA0eXho

 

 

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Added Joe's missus Insta, for the hungry folk

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Said it a while ago but as good as he's been at times, this obsession with playing him all the time is fast becoming a millstone round Eddie's neck IMO. 

 

Understand him playing in games against the established top 5 teams or away in Europe when we won't have much of the ball anyway, but in most other cases he's a huge part of the reason we can't retain the ball for toffee. When you've got him and Tonali in there that's 2/3 of your midfielders who can't use the ball well and it just lumps huge pressure on Bruno to do it all.

 

I'm sure the crowd love watching him launch into opponents and clock up yellow cards but if you lens back from that he's a real limiter to us becoming a better side with the ball.

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Don't think it's a surprise that since he's been out Hall has looked more shaky defensively down that side.

 

Everyone knows what Joelinton is by this point. Ideally if the rest of the team was performing at the standard it should, particularly Tonali, then Joelinton's deficiences could be mitigated for.

 

As things stand having Joelinton and Tonali in the midfield is not working. I know who I'd rather ditch, and it's not Joelinton.

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