Bompeter Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 The source for this 'story' is the following paragraph from Chris Waugh's article in the Athletic: Quote Tottenham Hotspur, Chelsea and a few European sides are thought to have made tentative enquiries via intermediaries, hoping to land the Frenchman for a knockdown price, seemingly anticipating the wealth of Newcastle’s owners would lead to a spending spree and to Saint-Maximin becoming surplus to requirements. But Newcastle would only have countenanced selling Saint-Maximin for a fee well in excess of £40million ($48m), which would have been reinvested into their squad. This then got regurgitated by the Sun, then regurgitated by Scott Wilson at the Echo, then picked up by Chelsea and Spurs accounts on Twitter. It's complete nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 What if it was a swap deal with someone like Pulisic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 27 minutes ago, Mikky said: I don’t see how Chelsea are interested when they have bought Sterling for that role Spurs is a no no It's clear and obvious bullshit. People will end up arguing about selling him when it isn't happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 54 minutes ago, Thumbheed said: What if it was a swap deal with someone like Pulisic? Keep talking ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 12 hours ago, Thumbheed said: What if it was a swap deal with someone like Pulisic? Would be amazing to have the LeBron James of soccer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 (edited) https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1644315/Chelsea-transfer-news-Allan-Saint-Maximin-Newcastle-Premier-League/amp This is the beginning of how a minority of foolish supporters, help the media drum up speculation, if he was sold, it would be the same old fools then wishing he hadn't left. Even when he was struggling, people forget how he literally carried the team under Bruce, no wonder it finally caught up with him and he had an inbetween spell. He's a huge player for us, and that's shown if the likes of Chelsea and Spurs are sniffing. This stinks of the same plebs who jumped on HBA, when Pardew wanted him tracking back etc, these special players aren't designed for that, you have to make exceptions with some individuals, he's bagged 5 goals and 5 assists and been top of some of the charts across Europe for chances created etc, and that's him having an off season from being exhausted from time under Bruce, and teams knowing how dangerous he is so putting 3 players on him. If that's the case, teams double and treble up, which it was a lot of the time, then that's not his fault, it's the players and partly Howe who I never want to criticise because he's class, but he should have spotted this and used adjustments where teams are wasting 3 players on one of ours? This would never happen to Sala because if you put three on Sala Liverpool would expose the opposition. We just dont have the personnel right now to allow ASM to show his full capability, until we secure an equal threat on the right side this shite agenda on him needs to end. Edited July 23, 2022 by mighty__mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 3 hours ago, mighty__mag said: This would never happen to Sala because if you put three on Sala Liverpool would expose the opposition Because they'd likely get stung off the equally skillful mane/Diaz/firmino. If this transfer window delivers any decent forward players then the hope is that this season, teams can't overload maxi as it would leave an equally dangerous player free. ASM needs this season with hopefully better players around him before a decision could be made on whether he fits in our plans going forward. He's spent a long time at nufc being 'The' player having to deal with inferior quality around him, although that's not always been the reason for his lack of output. Big season for the lad I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomlynnherrington Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 (edited) How many goals and chances would team mates have scored and made if he’d released the ball earlier and to players in better positions? I agree it’s a big season for the lad.We all know he has talent,but NOW he needs to realise that this applies to other players. Edited July 23, 2022 by tomlynnherrington Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, mighty__mag said: This stinks of the same plebs who jumped on HBA, when Pardew wanted him tracking back etc, these special players aren't designed for that, you have to make exceptions with some individuals, he's bagged 5 goals and 5 assists and been top of some of the charts across Europe for chances created etc, and that's him having an off season from being exhausted from time under Bruce, and teams knowing how dangerous he is so putting 3 players on him. Howe will want his wingers to defend from the front though. It does Maxi no favours when he's visibly sulky after losing the ball, sitting on the floor instead of getting up and blocking off a passing line or applying pressure to their player in possession. He doesn't necessarily need to track back. But SJP would go crackers if he showed more determinination off the ball and contributed more to the opposition losing the ball in their half. Pardew was playing awful football whilst also depriving us of the only form of excitement we could get on a matchday. HBA contributed far more in possession outside of rinsing fullbacks. I get the comparison but they don't really fit imo. I love Maxi like, I really want him to adjust and become a part of Howe's team properly. Edited July 23, 2022 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 I’m also a Maxi fan and really want him to develop further here and become the best player he can be. I have to admit I’m worried about the fact that the things he messes up, weight of pass and not reading the game are not simple things for him to change. I’d say that he often messes up his weight of pass to teammates and while he can work on that in training, it’s odd that it’s as poor as it is given his age and how much football he’s played in his life. With reading the game I feel that’s much harder to change and maybe it’s linked to why his passes to teammates are often poorly weighted and not perfectly directed as he isn’t good at anticipating how others on the pitch want to receive the ball. Still, I’m happy to get behind him this season and really hope he can improve in these areas and mainly make better decisions without losing too much of his flair. One thing that does annoy me though is how he takes issue with being fouled. When we played Munich the other day he looked massively affronted after being taken out once. This happens in every single match and he just has to accept that it’s part of the game and not get wound up about it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 He isn't a Conte or a Tuchel type of player, or good enough for Chelsea or Spurs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 He does my head in at times but I wouldn’t ever want to sell him. He’s essentially a wild card, something you can’t plan for, either for the team he plays for or when trying to plan tactics when playing against us. The top 6 teams will all hate playing against him for those reasons, just the pure unpredictability.. which version of him will show up, there’s the one that will repeatedly lose the ball in the middle of the pitch and looking like a sulk is nearby, or there’s the one that’s basically unplayable, beating 3/4 players with ease etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 1 hour ago, tomlynnherrington said: How many goals and chances would team mates have scored and made if he’d released the ball earlier and to players in better positions? I agree it’s a big season for the lad.We all know he has talent,but NOW he needs to realise that this applies to other players. Barely any...I've seen plenty of times where he laid it off to wood, almiron, Murphy, Joelinton etc and they all fucked up a goalscoring chance. Whenever I saw it I understood more why he sometimes feels the need to go it alone because the likelihood of one of the others doing anything was slim to none. When he plays with Wilson he gives him good assists and if we get a player of equal quality on the right then he will have more space to work in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 “He had a poor second half of the season because he was exhausted from playing for Bruce” Fucking hell, that’s some clutching. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenlau88210 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, reefatoon said: “He had a poor second half of the season because he was exhausted from playing for Bruce” Fucking hell, that’s some clutching. Love is blind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Geogaddi said: He isn't a Conte or a Tuchel type of player, or good enough for Chelsea or Spurs. How much did Spurs pay for Sissoko? £30m I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guybrush Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Under no circumstances should we sell St Maximin this window. We've yet to see him have a run with someone dangerous on the RW, Wilson and Trippier all in the team at the same time. He was frustrating last season but it's far too early to consider selling him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, Guybrush said: Under no circumstances should we sell St Maximin this window. We've yet to see him have a run with someone dangerous on the RW, Wilson and Trippier all in the team at the same time. He was frustrating last season but it's far too early to consider selling him He'd only be sold if Howe thinks the temperament hasn't changed and he isn't going to do the pressing his game now needs and if he's not carrying out instructions re distribution etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 43 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: How much did Spurs pay for Sissoko? £30m I think. He wasn’t good enough for Spurs either . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 I love his skills, his dribbling, his tricks and flair, if he played for another team he’d be a fave of mine. But I can’t stand his sulking, going down constantly and taking an age to get out of some huff he’s in and I’d rather a less skilful player, but who is more consistent in terms of successful passes and team-work. But we can’t sell him, he’s too important to us and I’d like to see how he does under a full season with Howe in what is now a better team. He needs to up his game though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 1 hour ago, reefatoon said: “He had a poor second half of the season because he was exhausted from playing for Bruce” Fucking hell, that’s some clutching. Under the whole previous season of Bruce, and this season up until Bruce was sacked, Bruce had everything going through him. I can see how it might sound far fetched, but people forget the season prior, and then heading into the new season, at times, Bruce was bringing him back into the side partly injured, the guy looked part mummy he had so many bandages on. He was bound to gas a bit this season following the way Bruce used him, then, Howe came in and intensified the training, maybe his body needed to adjust to proper training again and that's what we saw on the pitch, a lad who was just a bit knackered from it all. Anyway, he's an absolute legend, can't do no wrong for me, I do agree with the bits people say about him getting fouled and spending too much time whining, he would definitely do better to just jump up and crack on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Shouldn't be looking to sell him this season, obviously, but I think in the long term we can get a better left winger. He's got some tricks and makes a generally positive contribution but he is not and never will be top class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 29 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: Under the whole previous season of Bruce, and this season up until Bruce was sacked, Bruce had everything going through him. I can see how it might sound far fetched, but people forget the season prior, and then heading into the new season, at times, Bruce was bringing him back into the side partly injured, the guy looked part mummy he had so many bandages on. He was bound to gas a bit this season following the way Bruce used him, then, Howe came in and intensified the training, maybe his body needed to adjust to proper training again and that's what we saw on the pitch, a lad who was just a bit knackered from it all. Anyway, he's an absolute legend, can't do no wrong for me, I do agree with the bits people say about him getting fouled and spending too much time whining, he would definitely do better to just jump up and crack on. Saying he was poor under Howe because he was exhausted from playing for Bruce is a shite excuse fella. I’m all for people sticking up for their favourite players, but finding excuses that just don’t exist is just daft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 We shouldn't be looking to sell him, but we should have a replacement in mind if someone bids more than 40m for him. If we turn down that sort of money we are crackers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, STM said: We shouldn't be looking to sell him, but we should have a replacement in mind if someone bids more than 40m for him. If we turn down that sort of money we are crackers. I wonder if that's the idea with Harrison, with the excess going on a Diaby type ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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