Ikon Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: Completely disagree. We are no longer dependent on his magic just to survive. We're 7th having missed him for half our games. We can afford to give him a full and proper recovery like we have every other casualty. If he is on the bench then he is fit enough to play at least half a game. If there was any risk then there would be no point in having him on the bench even (if he is) Murphy is the most likely option if ASM doesn’t start. First of all I don’t rate him even if he has done well like against Fulham. Secondly he will offer even less against a team that won’t give much space to run into, depending on how todays game develops of course. His main strength is physically. We have struggled to score at home home when we have forced teams to sit back. ASM is one of our best chances of unlocking that. Plus he isn’t very good usually when coming on as a sub. its not just about surviving, it’s about giving ourselves the best chance to beat Brentford. I’d be more optimistic with ASM starting. It’s just my opinion though. I’m sure Howe will have a plan. We could very well beat them with Murphy too but I’d rather not see us starting him. Edited October 8, 2022 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 25 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: Completely disagree. We are no longer dependent on his magic just to survive. We're 7th having missed him for half our games. We can afford to give him a full and proper recovery like we have every other casualty. 7th now but had he been in the team against Palace and Bournemouth we'd be 3 places higher I believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Has the Fulham game made people forget just how utterly chronic we’ve been without him in attack? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPL Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Bring him off the bench where he will be more effective against tiring legs. Think Murphy did enough last game to keep his place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 45 minutes ago, Joseph said: Has the Fulham game made people forget just how utterly chronic we’ve been without him in attack? Have you forgotten we were also without Wilson and Bruno. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Mazzy said: 7th now but had he been in the team against Palace and Bournemouth we'd be 3 places higher I believe. Where we stand in October's table means very little to me, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Just now, Happinesstan said: Where we stand in October's table means very little to me, tbh. You are either ignoring or not getting his point though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Just now, Ikon said: You are either ignoring or not getting his point though. he's ignoring my point that we're not solely reliant on Maxi. Have we missed him more than we missed Wilson and Bruno? We undoubtedly missed all 3 but did okay with two of them returning. Your point was that he MUST start. I disagree, and his ignorance doesn't support your case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: he's ignoring my point that we're not solely reliant on Maxi. Have we missed him more than we missed Wilson and Bruno? We undoubtedly missed all 3 but did okay with two of them returning. Your point was that he MUST start. I disagree, and his ignorance doesn't support your case. He responded to your point on ASM man Enjoy your weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Ikon said: it’s about giving ourselves the best chance to beat Brentford. That's the small picture. The bigger picture is keeping our best players available for as many games as possible. I think we can beat Brentford without him. Also despite a start that shows promising signs that he could be a valuable element of the group, he's really only dazzled in one game, Man City. He should be ready to burst, let's keep that for next week, when the difference will be required a little more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Slipped on his arse when dribbling past 4-5 Brentford players. He's washed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Ikon said: You are either ignoring or not getting his point though. We're 5th now but I'd still be happy if we finish tenth. What we've achieved today [without Maxi] is to give ourselves a better chance of finishing 5th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Good to have him back. Please stay fit! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 20 minutes ago, Aiston said: Slipped on his arse when dribbling past 4-5 Brentford players. He's washed. Still retained the ball, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) Lovely ball to release Joelinton for the own goal. Smart. Edited October 9, 2022 by 80 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Daily Mail: Allan Saint-Maximin has suffered setback in return from hamstring layoff and is out of tomorrow's trip to Man Utd. Also likely to miss Everton & Spurs over course of next week. Same issue as before, although irritation not thought to be too serious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Irritating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 On 08/10/2022 at 12:21, Ikon said: Good to have him back. Please stay fit! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyBlanco Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Are we ever gunna have an injury free period and all players available. This is getting silly now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 We know ASM and Wilson are prone to this. Giving Wilson a new deal suggests Howe is happy to live with it which seems a bit odd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Fuck sake, can't wait until we have some squad depth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) Just now, Optimistic Nut said: We know ASM and Wilson are prone to this. Giving Wilson a new deal suggests Howe is happy to live with it which seems a bit odd. Which surprises me. I think of Howe as being the type that wouldn't like his methodical plans in training all week to hang on whether Wilson or ASM get injured on the Friday playing head tennis. Then he probably has alternate plans sorted and a general way of playing. Edited October 15, 2022 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: We know ASM and Wilson are prone to this. Giving Wilson a new deal suggests Howe is happy to live with it which seems a bit odd. Think the idea long term will be to have a squad to be able to rotate and hopefully increase their chances of keeping fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 The Maxi and Wilson situations are different because of age. Wilson can float in and out of the side for the remainder or his career. Maxi on the other hand is meant to be our bona-fide left winger and spends half his time picking up knocks and the other half hobbling about on the pitch. I love Maxi but he's infuriating. I can see Isak coming in on the left before long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Feck. Typical that Isak is out too or I think he’d have been there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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